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The Bush Junta Unmasked
SH: This [9/11] was all planned. This was a government-ordered
operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized
the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder.
Interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 9/11 taxpayers' lawsuit
Alex Jones Radio Show
September 10, 2004
Transcription by 'RatCat'
AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief of staff, very
successful counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of the victims
families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a
major Zogby poll out - half of New Yorkers think the government was
involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the
next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great to have you on with
us.
SH: Glad to be on.
AJ: We'll have to recap this when we start the next hour, but just in
a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've deposed a lot of
military officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell,
what is your case alleging?
SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney
and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not
only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in
actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen.
We have some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses,
that Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain
political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of
the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also
wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went to school with some of
these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with
Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so I know these
people personally. And we used to talk about this stuff all of the
time. And I did my senior thesis on this very subject - how to turn
the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus
Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the planning at
least 35 years.
AJ: That's right. They were all Straussian followers of a Nazi-like
professor. And now they are setting it up here in America. Stanley, I
know you deposed a lot of people and you've got your $7 million
dollar lawsuit with hundreds of the victim's families involvedS.
SH: 7 billion, 7 billion
AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new and
incriminating evidence you've got of them ordering the attack?
SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers' class action
lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic
three arguments are they violated the Constitution by ordering this
event. And secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims
Act, Title 31 of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented false and
fraudulent evidence to Congress to get the Iraq war authorization.
And, of course, he related it to 9/11 and claimed that Saddam was
involved with that, and all these lies.
AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got to break. Let's
come back and get into the evidence.
BREAK
AJ: All right my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the
anniversary of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It's an
amazing individual we have on the line. Bob Dole's former chief of
staff, political scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld
and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn America into a
dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's suing the U.S.
government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds of the victims'
families signing onto it - it's a $7 billion lawsuit. And he is
Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us in Los
Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida and all over.
Please sir, recap what you were just stating and then let's get into
the new evidence. And then we'll get into why you are being harassed
by the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who have been
blowing the whistle on this. So, this is really getting serious.
Stanley, tell us all about it.
SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld,
Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to
happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a
witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S.
undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the
CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled.
Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places.
And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered
by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating
evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It's not
just incompetence - in spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The
fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point,
there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to be
uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th - when those videos
showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words
about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he
thought this was another rehearsal. These people had dress-rehearsed
this many times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he
even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a California press
conference when he said he had, quote, "seen on television the first
plane attack the first tower." And that could not be possible because
there was no video. What it was was the simulated video that he had
gone over. So this was a personally government-ordered thing.
We are suing them under the Constitution for violating Americans'
rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for
presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq
boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under the RICO
statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being a
corrupt entity.
And I've been harassed personally by the chief judge of the federal
court who is instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened
to kick me off the court, after 30 years on the court. I've been
harassed by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My
office has been broken into and this is the kind of government we are
dealing with.
AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out - five separate drills of
flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning - which you told us
about before it even broke in the Associated Press. They were trying
to get out ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed
military people who were told it was a drill that morning. Then to
get out ahead of that, the news finally reported on it. Now, we've
learned that all these operations - I want to get into that, I want
to talk about the new incriminating evidence of ordering it and how
they had drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker controlling
this. That has even come out in the mainstream news but they won't
release the details of that, Stanley. But what type of FBI harassment
are you going through?
SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in San Francisco several
months ago. Files were gone through and some files were seized -
particularly the ones dealing with the lady that was married to one
of the hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies in a hidden place
so nothing disappeared permanently. But more significantly, FBI
agents have been harassing one of my staff members and threatening
them with vague but frightening threats of indicting them. And it's
just total harassment. They have planted a spy, an undercover agent,
in my organization, as we just recently discovered. In other words,
these are Nazi Germany tactics. This is the kind of government you
have in this country. This is what Bush is all about.
AJ: Stay there, Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of staff. We'll come
back after this quick break. Please stay with us.
BREAK
AJ: All right, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the second hour. Stanley
Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's former chief of
staff, is suing the government for 7 billion dollars for carrying out
9/11 and for racketeering. And he joins us now. During the break, I
first really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton after I saw
him attacked on Fox News. And that interview got massive attention.
And then he kind of went underground for a while because a judge,
we're going to talk about that, ordered him to not do any more
interviews. And now he's back doing interviews. He's had his office
broken into, FBI threats and harassment. Bottom line, he has deposed
military individuals, wives of hijackers, you name it, it was a
government operation. It has even come out in mainstream news, a
piece here, a piece there. They had drills on 9/11, that's why NORAD
stood down. Cheney was in control of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton
has now gotten documents about how Bush ordered the whole operation.
And I'll tell you right now, his life is in danger, folks. And he's
got so much courage. He went to school with these neocons at the
University of Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government
could use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He is the man for
the time and folks wondered why he disappeared for a while and just
did his lawsuit and wasn't doing interviews, it was because he was
ordered to.
Stanley, can you get into that for us?
SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March of 2003, about a
year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after that, I was
contacted by the emissary of the chief judge of the federal court
where I have the lawsuit. And I was warned not to publicize it but to
keep it quiet and threatened with discipline. And it remained quiet
until a couple of months ago and then I got on the air on some
programs and some publicity andS July 1st, I was threatened directly
by the chief judge here, threatened with court discipline. This
particular judge has been circulating communiques to the other
federal judges seeking anything negative she can get against me to
try and discipline me after I've been on the court here for 30 years
with no disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly happening. And
her assistants who are on the committee of the court met with me on
July 1st in Palo Alto, California, and threatened me directly. They
handed me a copy of the lawsuit and said that the judge wants me to
dismiss this. What's this? She doesn't like the content of it. This
is politically incorrect. This is outside the norm. I said I
represented more than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this
case? And they threatened me directly and they said, "the next time
you'll be disciplined." And also they've threatened me not to go
public, etc. And this is just outrageousS.
AJ: It's all color of law. No direct orders, just all in your face.
SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny it's because of
the political content of the suit but they told me directly on the
phone that it is because of this suit and this judge is very, very
angry, apparently has been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice
Department. I got a call from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few
months ago about this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening
sanctions and all kinds of things. I refused to drop it.
AJ: Now let's go back over, you had them break into your office,
harassment. Let's go over that in detail.
SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The file cabinets -
it was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were stolen. Files
dealing with this particular case and particularly with the documents
I had regarding the fact that the - some of these hijackers, at least
some of them were on the payroll of the U.S. government as undercover
FBI, CIA, double agents. They are spying on Arab groups in the U.S.
And, in effect, all this led up to the effect that al Qaeda is a
creation of the George Bush administration, basically. That the
entity that he called al Qaeda is directly linked to George Bush. And
all this stuff was stolen. Fortunately, I had copies. But this was
just part of the harassment. The FBI has also been harassing some of
my assistants and has planted a spy in our midst. And it is just
outrageous that these Nazi tactics are being used - and the
obstruction of justice, these people are criminals. And that's what's
happening under the tremendous pressure here to just drop it. Or to
shut up now and just go away.
AJ: Now, let's talk about what they want you to drop. Let's talk
about, without giving names, the people you deposed, what really
happened, the picture you've got. You said earlier that Bush ordered
this, they were simulating this which they now admit there were
simulations on that morning. Let's go over what they don't want you
to talk about, Stanley.
SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn
statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc.,
that other officials in the Pentagon and the military and the Air
Force that deal with the fact that there were many drills, many
rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated
on TV many times. He blurted this out at a press conference in
California a few months after 9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen
the first plane hit the first building on the video. And that's not
possible because there was no official video of that. There was one
of the second plane not the first one. He had seen the first one.
We do have some incriminating documents that Bush personally ordered
9/11 events. It was well planned. A FEMA official has admitted on
tape that he was there the night before - September 10th, that is S
AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911 Commission,
admitted that - Tripod II. They had their whole command post already
moved out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important. This is a
key area of this whole event. You said months before it came out on
the CIA's own website and the Associated Press, you said I deposed
people. They said there were drills that morning and exactly what
happened, happening - that was the smoke-screen for the stand-down.
And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we
were running a drill that morning. Now, we've learned that five,
possibly six, were confirmed. Five of these - one drill with the
exact same thing happening that actually happened, at the exact same
time in the morning. That's why NORAD stood down with 24 different
blips on the screen. You've said this. You brought this up first.
Now, I know you can't get too much into detail but can you tell us
how you learned of this?
SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I
personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked
for Dole. I'm very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain
at Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD
as well as the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the
point is, yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills
over at least two months before September 11th. Everything was
planned, the exact locationSS
AJ: But five drills that day.
SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill. That's the
only explanation for why he appeared nonchalantSSS
AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers
going, "Is this part of the exercise? Is this a drill?"
SH: Yes.
AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it was, quote, a
drill.
SH: That's right. That's exactly what I said long before it became
public. I've known about this since earlier in March of '03, as I
stated before. This was all planned. This was a government-ordered
operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized
the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now,
obstruction of justice by attempting to use a federal judge and FBI
agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this country, in
federal court. Even a chief judge in this court tried to harass and
threaten me personally for representing legitimate plaintiffs. And
they got Clinton for allegedly lying under oath about Paula Jones and
now - look what's happening now. And Ken Starr used to be across from
me in Duke Law School in the early `70s and it's interesting that he
got away with trying to get Clinton impeached, so we have a far worse
criminal sitting in the oval office today - somebody guilty of mass
murder as well as obstruction of justice.
AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a plan to fly
planes into buildings - said it all over television - Rice, Bush,
Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running
all these drills that morning. Even if they weren't involved, that
proves they were liars about ever hearing of such a plan.
SH: Well, I'm trying to take their depositions - I've been trying to
take their depositions for months. They've been trying to object to
it. They will have to admit they were either lying then or now. It's
clearly perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers; that's what
they are. These are the people that we have running this government
and, of course, they knew about it. How are they going to claim now
that they didn't know about these drills? Their idea is that nobody
knew anything. It's the old know-nothing mentality. And how anybody
considers this believable is beyond me.
AJ: All right, now people ask how could a huge organization, how could
the AWACs, how could the military let this happen; whereas before, if
your Cessna got off course for five minutes, they would launch F-16s
on you. It's real simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said here a year
and a half ago. It's what came out in the news after that. The
military, good people, were told this was all a drill. And it was not
a drill. And ABC News admits that Cheney was in control of [?] out of
the White House [?] and that he ordered the military to quote "do
something." Our inside sources from Hilton and others say it was a
stand down and they admit they will not release that under national
security. Stanley?
SH: Well they are going to admit it, they're going to release it in
the court case because if you demand it under subpoena powers and
they must release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name
of the U.S. because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we
accuse the Bush Administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to
Congress. And under the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they
must release this information. That's why they are trying to threaten
me, harass me, invade my office, steal my files, commit blatant
obstruction of justice and other crimes to try and prevent a
legitimate civil suit from exposing these criminals and their acts of
treason and mass murder.
AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you are not planning
suicide. Would you like to tell folks that?
SH: (laughs) I'm not planning suicide. I've got family and I'm not
planning that but I don't like the threats I'm under - but I can tell
you this, it's taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff. And
particularly, when you get a threat from the chief judge of your own
court.
AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a year of being
under the radar?
SH: Because the more and more evidence that I've been adducing over a
year and a half has made it so obvious to me that this was now
without any doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the
biggest act of treason and mass murder in American history. I mean
George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes
Benedict Arnold look like George Washington. I mean that's what we
have - a criminal and a traitor sitting in the White House pretending
he's a patriot, wrapping himself in the flag. And it's pretty
disgusting because the other side of the so-called opposition, the
Kerry camp is just saying nothing because they're afraid to speak.
AJ: Stay right there. We'll be right back.
BREAK
AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or 16 minutes. Then
he's got to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of staff,
political scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs - most of
them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody I
was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero - "I
had family, I worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal - he
called the night before and said don't go to work." You know, all of
this, and then now they never had any idea - and it turns out they
had all these drills - and one drill of hijacked jets flying into the
World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That morning -
come on people! And Stanley Hilton brought all this out on this show
before it was in the mainstream news. And I was talking to him during
the break. I mean, the harassment, the moles, the threatening of his
staff, the judge threatening him. Stanley, let's get specifically
into the documents that you have now got that they have now been
robbing you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies.
Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into that for us -
ordering 9/11?
SH: National Security Council classified documents which [garbled]
and it's was part of a series of documents that were involved with
the drill documents. This was all planned - they had it on videotape.
These planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated
previously a year and a half ago, there's a system called Cyclops.
There is a computer chip in the nose of the plane and it enables the
ground control, the military ground control, to disable the pilot's
control of the plane and to control it and to fly it directly into
those towers. That's what happened. It's also a technology used on
what's called the Global Hawk, which is an aircraft drone - a remote-
controlled aircraft. And they were doing it. We are talking about
National Security Council classified documents that clearly indicated
that [garbled] had a green light to order this to go and this is no
drill. These drills that were running were clearly a dress rehearsal
and this was a government operation. You wonder why these people are
trying to threaten people and trying to intimidate people who have
written this suit, I guess if you murdered 3000 of your own citizens,
in conjunction with the corrupt Royal family of Saudi Arabia as Bush
did. And if you then waste billions more on a worthless garbage war
in Iraq, I guess you've got something to worry about and you want to
threaten people to prevent it from coming out.
AJ: I mean let's look at this. Not only are there dress rehearsals,
they are smoke screens so the good military stands down and doesn't
know what's happening. But it's now coming out, even in mainstream
news, that yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of these
drills, quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control - this
is decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old jets and using
them for target practice. Decades ago they flew jumbo jets from LA to
Sidney Australia. So since that's going on, everybody knows that. And
it's the same MO. Just like the first World Trade Center [bombing]
where they get two retarded men who followed this blind sheik who had
a tiny mosque above a pizza parlor. And they set them up as the
patsies. Then the FBI cooks the bomb, trains the drivers. This
informant goes, "You're not going to bomb the building? They
go "Yeah, we're letting it go forward." He tapes them to protect
themselves. The two retarded gentlemen, thank God, didn't park it up
against the column, as the FBI instructed them to do, so it didn't
bring down the tower - because you have to be right up against the
column. That doesn't happen. Yet, it's the same thing with 9/11.
You've got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who were trained at U.S.
military bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station - mainstream media, out
creating their legends for this background. They're on board the
aircraft. My military sources say nerve gas kills everybody on board
the plane - nerve gas packets. Then they fly the planes into
buildings. From your inside sources, is that accurate?
SH: It's one of the things that we are looking into - that nerve gas
or something else disabled people. It's possible. I can't say for
sure to be honest with youS
AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they were on
board and the planes were remote controlled.
SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the
hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It
was like a classic decoy. I've got some military background. And it's
called decoy. It's a decoy operation. You make the people focus on
the decoy to avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are
focusing on these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, "Oh, it
must have been these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty person is at
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue - sitting in the oval office. That's the
guilty person. That's the one who authorized it. There is only one
man who could have authorized this operation and that's Bush. And
anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have been told personally at NORAD
in the war control room, there is only one man who has the power to
do this kind of thing and that's Bush. Even though many believe he's
a puppet. And I think in many ways he is. The fact of the matter is
where was [ ] Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact is
Bush personally ordered and he's guilty and liable and he's going to
be re-elected apparently because the media's asleep and [garbled] for
Bush.
AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial complex
that carried out the attacks.
SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining the official
government fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs
couldn't even steer that plane down a runway.
AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up.
BREAK
AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when you talk to
these military men and women, what's their attitude? They've got to
be pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually
happened on 9/11.
SH: Yes, you know it's like clouds just before a thunderstorm in the
sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged
at the criminal politicians who have perverted and misused the
government to murder its own citizens and pursue these dubious
political ends. And many of them, in increasing numbers, are willing
to talk and will talk under subpoena - but only under subpoena
because the official party line of the government is shut up and
don't talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more, they are very
outraged that part of the government has done this to its own people,
to its own people. I mean you have to go back to Stalin to see
something - not even Hitler did this to his own people. You have to
look at Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his own
dubious gains. Also we've got - we have a Stalinist mentality in this
country. And, if these people pose as patriots and wrap themselves in
the flag, it's disgusting.
I wanted also to point out that the Japanese television network,
Asahi, is going to be airing a special on primetime tomorrow, on
September 11th. They interviewed me for eight hours a couple of weeks
ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of course, the America media don't
care so they are not going to care. But in Japan, people are very
serious in interviewing me and others. And we have a website now,
called deprogram.info, if more people are interested:
www.deprogram.info.
But the other thing, I just wanted to say that if anything happens to
me - and I don't know why - because I'm being threatened here now.
And it seems you can't bring a case in this country anymore against
criminals in power without being threatened. And this is how they
operate. The stakes are pretty high when you've got a world
historical level of treason and fraud by this government against it's
own people. I guess this is what you have to expect.
AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new world order crowd, definitely
intend to carry out more terror attacks. I know they would have
carried out more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've been up
to, if you wouldn't have been out there boldly speaking out and many
others. And then their electronic Berlin wall has a bunch of cracks
in it now. Thanks to good people like yourself and many others who
are speaking out and telling the truth. But do you think that they
may carry out what they've been hyping - a suitcase nuke attack, a
biological release to try to smokescreen all of this? I know it's a
catch 22, you've got to expose the murderers. We've got to get the
word out on this but some government people that I've talk to
say, "Yeah, but if you do that, they are going to go even more hard
core and must totally try to take over." But I say regardless, they
are already doing that. So what do you say to that?
SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have contingency
plans. I think they are laying low now because there are an
increasing number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging
them and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they would have
done it again if we had not spoken up. I think they're planning, what
they would like to do is silence any dissenters. That's why we are
trying to get the Patriot Act declared unconstitutional in this
lawsuit also.
AJ: Let's talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot is a scarce
man, hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid
join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You are one
of those guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively jumped on
the hand grenade for America. But when you've got a Zogby poll, who
is highly respected, half of New Yorkers believe that the government
was involved. When you have a Canadian poll, 63% on average believe
that the U.S. government was involved. And some groups, as high as
76% in polls believe the government was involved. European polls, two-
thirds show the same thing. We have German defense ministers and
technology ministers and another member of their government now,
three of them going public, known conservatives, and progressives.
You have an environment minister, Michael Meacher, saying that if
they didn't do it, they sure as hell knew what was going on. Look, if
anybody who is a thinking person looks at the evidence, their
official story is impossible. Then you investigate and they are
involved in it. Comments to this massive awakening and what's
happening.
SH: Well, I think that's why they want the Patriot Act to suppress
political dissent. They have to, they're anticipating, they are not
dumb individuals. I know these people personally, Wolfowitz. These
are criminal individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated
political dissent. And that's why, like the Nazis, their forebears,
and their blood brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, they're all
for political repression. Every corrupt and criminal government has
done this - they suppress their own people: Nazi Germany, Communist
Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, that's why we have the Patriot Act. So it's
hand in hand. They had it planned to go right up to September 11th,
this was all part of the plan. You have to do it. It was part of my
senior thesis. You must follow through the terrorists attacks with a
political suppression mechanism in the law. And that's why they want
Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans are to continue launching
more terrorist attacks to justify even more repression. The goal is
to make this a one party dictatorship in this country, to pursue
their dubious ends with their blood brothers like the Saudi Royal
family. And also, historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi Germany
and the Communist Russian. That's the goal
AJ: You've got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to also
tell you about New York. Sound cannons that are used in Iraq, they're
against us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police, accredited media
being arrested randomly. Children being arrested, people in
wheelchairs, 2000 plus people put in a camp with barbwire fences
inside with no bathrooms. You had to have permission to go to the
porta-potties. Police screaming at you. It had nothing to do with
terrorism. They are openly setting the precedent for martial law.
SH: Well, that's right, the word terrorist is now being overly broad
and overly defined [garbled] and also, you know, it's like the word
communist was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt. And
anybody can be called a terrorist by Bush's definition. But the irony
is that the number one terrorist in the world is living at the White
House at the oval office today. That's the real irony. For sheer
hypocrisy, I think he deserves the world prize and ought to be in the
Ripley book, Believe It or Not, and the Guinness book of world
records for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.
AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is the experience
that I had. Watching television, watching the killers, watching those
that are guilty, stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful.
It's like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own trial. I mean
it is just painful to know who these people are. To see them putting
America in a shredder. Now we are going to have forced psychological
testing of every American, forced drugging, you know Pan-American
unions, I mean it's just all happening, it's in our face, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, it's very disturbing and as one who has studied the theory
and concept of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer,
who was Hitler's armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in
Munich. And I've studied the psychology and history of
totalitarianism and there is no question that it's very frightening.
And it has, today, with high technology, albeit for the first time in
history, the chance of having a world empire dominated by corrupt,
technologically oriented government - an elite government. And
they've got now what people like Napoleon and Hitler didn't have,
which is the technological means to dominate not only their own
country but others - the world.
AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to show how PNAC
[Project for the New American Century] said we need helpful Pearl
Harbor events, to show how Northwoods called for the exact 9/11-style
attacks, to show their own plans. And to force people to face this
horror. What are they going to do in a year or two when 80% of us,
not half of us, know the truth?
SH: Well, that's why they want repression and, then again, the
ancient old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get people
to pitch it away. I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean their
capacity for ingenious creation of these events is sort of
unraveled. I mean there is no limit. My guess is they are going to
try another stunt - maybe a stunt just before the election to justify
getting Bush reelected. Although it seems like he is running against
a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, my guess is they'll
try some other tactic to get people's attention away from 9/11 if it
gets to be too much attention. What you really want is for the public
to just lose interest because the public - and it's like remember the
Alamo, you know, people don't forget things like that. To me it's
like the Alamo, remember 9/11, that ought to be the slogan for this
outrageous act of treason. That's what it is. It's notSS
AJ: We are at a crossroads, I don't think they anticipated this much
resistance, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent as they are
corrupt and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only by
their corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough people
are going to get outraged enough, these people in the bureaucracy and
in the civil service and our military, and eventually we can get
people under subpoena these individuals will be exposed.
AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being naive and not
recognizing evil. This is what they got with Hitler and others.
People couldn't recognize evil so they continued to repeat succumbing
to it. We are recognizing it this time. We are putting our lives, our
treasure, our future on the line for freedom because we cannot let
these blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us and use us
and turn us into the empire and have a draft and use us as their
slaves to invade the planet. And that's their PNAC plan. Stanley
Hilton, I know you've got to get to court. God bless you. I want to
thank you for being here with us today. Can we get you back on next
week?
SH: Sure, just give me a call.
AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing comments?
SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought to just think
about the consequence of having someone like Bush in the White House
and the danger for the future that these sorts of individuals pose.
This is not just a historical event of the past. This is part of the
plan and the camera is still rolling. They have an agenda. These
individuals are extremely dangerous. They are armed and dangerous.
They pose a clear and dangerous threat to every freedom-loving person
not only American but in the whole world.
AJ: You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have captured the
government. They have not captured the peoples' minds and they are
counting on us not facing up to it.
SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act and threats
and chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing
them. That's what they are counting on.
AJ: But you're not backing down are you, my friend.
SH: No, I'm not
AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God bless you.
SH: All right. Thank you.
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