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i've gotta agree with t on this one, michael…
the thing about works as conceptual as this is that there's all too often a poverty of sensory material…which is the point behind conceptual work…to avoid there being any sort of art object at all…
this of course is a hybrid, and i find this fascinating…i would first of all like to know how cory tricked quick time into thinking his RAM was video….and it's a small feat of hacking skill/programming that he managed this…
drop an image file onto notepad, and you get the code behind the image…is that codepoetry? i dunno…but in some ways this piece strikes me as just that: the innerworkings of something we're not meant to see…
in that, it's quite artful
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">just a note to this, I actually really
like the concepts behind corys piece but what I find
frustrating with this kind of work is the finished 'product'  disappoints compared to the
'science' and ideas behind the work.. I have to disagree with Lewis that this is the 'point'
of conceptual work (or to follow this that idea that all conceptual artists outworking is
weak.) I do not see why if something is conceptual that can't be as strong in the
outworking of the concept or …why outwork it? The fact the final product is weak is just
something that we (as viewers and artists) seemed to have started to accept as ok in
conceptual art…why?</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">If an artist is going to go to the
considerable time and trouble work out the mechanics of
of getting this to work - why not take a bit more time on what the piece </span></font><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt"><i>actually looks like
</i></span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">and the aesthetics of the translation…?
Corys work, through a great (albeit already
'done') concept looks…so  (errr, search for a word) basic.  I'm not at all data/techno
minded but even I know  that the mechanics of this kind of work  (converting ram and or
other data sources into video) have been round for a very long time and have been
pushed to (what I think) are much more interesting, sharper and… well, more beautiful
results. It troubles me that it seems  techniques are called only new and revolutionary
just because the 'right' person has decided to use them…. </span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Have a look at Michael Takeo Magruders
work (an american artist based in the UK) who
is working in a very similar way but with very different results. There is also a wonderful
tension going on within the work in the divide between old data [news] and new data
which he grabs breaks down and streams into his videos and installations. The majority
of his work is digital installations but his net pieces are both intriguing and aesthetically
a cut above. He is a artist with a science background and his theory and techniques are
a solid as you could wish for. Might be worth comparing….</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#008000"><span style="font-size:10pt"><u>http://www.takeo.org/nspace/transmission/</u></span></font></div>
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Takeos work is at:
http://www.takeo.org/nspace/ns00.htm
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">I've been looking back on this work
as I've just used it as an example..</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">see</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Takeo's</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.takeo.org/nspace/ns002/</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">[transmission]</span></font></div>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">sourced from data stream (simplicitic explanation
is that they are broken
down through spectrum data - but its far more complex ) from BBC
News24, ITV News, Sky News (9 second broadcast footage sequence
from each station), ~10:30am 09.01.2003</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">you just can't put data diaries in the same league…</span></font></p>
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