Mr TISMA's Milosevic Propaganda

From: "Andrej Tisma" <[email protected]>
> Wally Keely,
> The whole world's progressive and free intellectuals are against NATO
force
> and crimes they did, and are still doing in this world. Just you are
> defending them.

You are a bullsh*t liar, Mr Tisma. There are plenty of o ther people who
defend NATO, but let me inform you that the record in my pass demonstrates
that I opposed NATO involvement in the Balkans. I opposed NATO expansion to
include the former Warsaw Pact countries. I was a strong supporter of NATO
as defensive organ. To expand NATO meant that its power would be diluted, so
I opposed the inclusion of Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic on the first
round of expansion post-commie. I opposed NATO involvement in the Balkans
because NATO was not under attack, but NATO decided that it was no longer a
purely defensive organ – and so I could not support a non-defensive
military organ.

Very weak attempt on your part to divert attention from the fact that you
are acting as an agent of prosecution of the Ministry o f Interior of the
Milosevic regime, which the Yugoslav people almost en mass decided to
exorcise from their midst. I don't hold much truck from any information
coming from official channels of USA or NATO – and I certainly don't
accept the self-serving propaganda of Serbia's CIA/FBI equivalent.

> Also all progressive people

Jingoism at it flatest.

> of this planet accuse American
> regime policy but you defend it,

Bullsh*t. I did not defend it at all. I simply pointed out that your web
site was mediocre and unoriginal, that it was a pale imitation of USAmerican
dissident culture. Then you added your position as a mouthpiece and
prosecutor of the highly discredited Milosevic regime. You have presented
yourself as nothing more than a propagandist u nder the guise of being an
artist.

> although it is obvious that they commit
> crimes day by day.

Of course they do, and I have no problem admitting that fact, and I am sure
there are many USAmericans who can admit it. Your problem is that YOU are
unable to admit to the crimes of the Milosevic regime – by virtue of being
a propagandist for that criminal regime.

> So I have nothing more to add to this discussion.

THAT would be most welcome if all you have to present is Milosevic
propaganda.

> —– Original Message —–
> From: "Wally Keeler" <[email protected]>
> To: "Andrej Tisma" <[email protected]>; "RHIZOME" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: Re: Tisma's Flatline - Bush's greetings: Warry
> Christmas!
>
>
> > —– Original Message —–
> > From: "Andrej Tisma" <[email protected]>
> > > Yes, this report was made by "Milosevic regime" because in that time
> > > Milosevic was in power. The report from the spot could not be made by
> any
> > > other regime.
> >
> > I supposed you would believe the reports put out by the Stalinist regime
> > because it was the regime at the time and could not be made by any other
> > regime.
> >
> > > That is logical, I think. But the forensic experts are very
> > > precise in any regime I think,
> >
> > Paid by the criminal regime of Milosevic, Arkan & co.
> >
> > > and there are photos, names, places, etc.
> >
> > Stalin also produced reports with names, places, photos. Big deal.
> >
> > > The report is linked from a Russian (very private) web site because
they
> > > made a mirror web site of former YU government site
> >
> > So it is a private site, paid by whom?
> >
> > > which was removed by the
> > > actual NATO puppet regime in YU. Actual NATO servants to erase all
> traces
> > of
> > > their bosses' crimes. That explains all.
> >
> > What a crock of shit. The "NATO puppet regime" was freely elected
> > overwhelmingly by the remaining people of Yugoslavia. Are you suggesting
> > that the majority of people of Yugoslavia were spineless puppets who
voted
> > as they were dictated to?
> >
> >
> > > But you can see it here too. It is not a Russian link:
> > > http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosovo\_crisis/destruction/white\_book/
> > > Me and Milosevic? I never voted for him in my life.
> >
> > Not the point. The point is that you are not only a sucker for his
stats,
> > but a mouthpiece for his ethnic cleansing regime.
> >
> > > Andrej
> > >
> > >
> > > —– Original Message —–
> > > From: "Wally Keeler" <[email protected]>
> > > To: "Andrej Tisma" <[email protected]>; "RHIZOME" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 6:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: Re: Tisma's Flatline - Bush's greetings:
Warry
> > > Christmas!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Andrej Tisma posts:
> > > > >They are all here, with names, data, autopsy results, images
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/yugoslavia/milosevic/bela/bela/index.htm
> >
> > > >
> > > > I would recommend that the artists of Rhizome check out this web
site.
> > Mr
> > > > Tisma apparently places all his faith in this documentation. I
> examined
> > > the
> > > > first case with the purpose of learning whether the report supports
Mr
> > > > Tisma's assertion that "over 1000 children" were killed by NATO
> planes.
> > I
> > > > have not yet examined the entire report, but the first case in the
> > lengthy
> > > > report is quite revealing. The evidence is compiled and presented by
> the
> > > > Ministry of the Interior of the Milosevic regime, and the site
itself
> is
> > > > maintained by Russia, not by the Jugoslavian state. Although Mr
Tisma
> > > takes
> > > > pains to present his case as Yugoslavian, the report he presents
> refers
> > > > only to the Republic of Serbia. It appears that the Jugoslavian
> people
> > > via
> > > > their democratically elected government have decided that the site
is
> > > > nothing more than the propaganda of the Milosevic regime and have
> > rightly
> > > > rejected it. Mr Tisma, whom I suspect is nothing more than a Serbian
> > > > nationalist in the politically correct guise of a Yugoslav, is
nothing
> > > more
> > > > than an agent of influence for the deposed Milosevic regime.
> > > >
> > > > =======================================
> > > >
> > > > BOMBING OF A REFUGEE COLUMN ON THE DJAKOVICA - PRIZREN ROAD, 14
APRIL
> > 1999
> > > >
> > > > The opening paragraph:
> > > > 'The first assault