Alan Sondheim + stealing things + thingist

To clarify and also amuse us:

1. You left thingist because of your own self. Not us.
We have at no point attempted to dictate your behavior in any manner.
One would suggest that you avoid abrogating responsibility for your
flippant incapacity to exist onto others: it is your_ fault_.

2. You 'left' thingist after repeatedly attempting various failed jabs,
which you proceed with here. Hvr, all of my posts have been cc:
rhizome + thingist + elsewhere, so was seen as happening.

3. Have expressed no desire in your proximity or 'things'.
Rather you solicited yourself to us, repeatedly,
and when refused as undesirable, unqualified, unfit,
have continuously attempted to misrepresent what we do +
insinuating it being 'orientalism' 'zen' and others +
psychotic judgementalism on above issues, which you
have no understanding of.

4. That is, Alan Sondheim has attempted appropriation + extortion
of knowledge we have no desire to give to him. Because we will
not allow Alan Sondheim to 'feed energetically' + thieve
what has been transmitted to us, the rejected princessa howls +
whines. "Our" energy + being is not "yours", Alan Sondheim,
and refusal to give you what was never yours to begin with,
is not 'attempts at anything belonging to you'.

Take responsibility for yourself, ape.

And we shall be very amused if you 'jump from a cliff'
because of 'us' martyr-princessa. However, the 'problem' shall remain
yours + entirely yours.

xo

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Comments

, D42 Kandinskij

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Alan Sondheim wrote:

> You're right - I'm not amused; I'm laughing at this point - :-)

No dearest. You're not 'laughing' either.
Knee-jerk from self-importance, hits itself over the head,
all laughing, laughing.

Accompanied by illiteracy, self-mesmerized hyponosis,
abrogation of self-responsbility, and blindness, impotence.

Amazing, isn't it?

How about something else to make you 'laugh' even more:
you know that old wives tale about masturbation and blindness?

Wink.

, Alan Sondheim

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, -IID42 Kandinskij @27+ wrote:

> To clarify and also amuse us:
>
> 1. You left thingist because of your own self. Not us.
> We have at no point attempted to dictate your behavior in any manner.
> One would suggest that you avoid abrogating responsibility for your
> flippant incapacity to exist onto others: it is your_ fault_.
>
Of course! I admit it. It's definitely my fault. I thought the discussion
had deteriorated to the extent that I no longer wanted to participate. So
what?

> 2. You 'left' thingist after repeatedly attempting various failed jabs,
> which you proceed with here. Hvr, all of my posts have been cc:
> rhizome + thingist + elsewhere, so was seen as happening.

Rhizome's quite interesting to me at the moment. As far as the 'jabs' go,
give me some credit; I knew they were failing, but I wanted negative text
to use, and had no other way to obtain it.

>
> 3. Have expressed no desire in your proximity or 'things'.
> Rather you solicited yourself to us, repeatedly,
> and when refused as undesirable, unqualified, unfit,
> have continuously attempted to misrepresent what we do +
> insinuating it being 'orientalism' 'zen' and others +
> psychotic judgementalism on above issues, which you
> have no understanding of.

I claim no understanding, but that wasn't my argument; you're thinking of
someone else. As far as my referencing zen, etc., I'm not going to debate
that with you.

>
> 4. That is, Alan Sondheim has attempted appropriation + extortion
> of knowledge we have no desire to give to him. Because we will
> not allow Alan Sondheim to 'feed energetically' + thieve
> what has been transmitted to us, the rejected princessa howls +
> whines. "Our" energy + being is not "yours", Alan Sondheim,
> and refusal to give you what was never yours to begin with,
> is not 'attempts at anything belonging to you'.

Wow!

>
> Take responsibility for yourself, ape.

I tend to think apes are more intelligent, or at least the bonono -

>
> And we shall be very amused if you 'jump from a cliff'
> because of 'us' martyr-princessa. However, the 'problem' shall remain
> yours + entirely yours.

Unfortunately I'm only 3 stories up, and I'm not about to run to the
Palisades -

xoxoxo!

Alan

>
> xo
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
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, D42 Kandinskij

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Alan Sondheim wrote:

> Of course! I admit it. It's definitely my fault. I thought the discussion
> had deteriorated to the extent that I no longer wanted to participate. So
> what?

"So what" Defensiveness of the irresponsible murderous idiot
pretending to be an 'artist' to excuse its impotence +
attempts at abuse of others.

> Rhizome's quite interesting to me at the moment.

Everything's 'to you' babe. The world revolves around your
delusioned brain n'est pas?

> As far as the 'jabs' go, give me some credit;

Shall be given credit when you deserve it. Your credit is now
0.

> I knew they were failing,

You're not capable of knowing, Alan. Attempting to damage another human
being for 'personal profit'
=the idiotic self-destructive mode of existence of the murderous ape.
Narcissistic masochism + slavery, the substitute for life.

> but I wanted negative text
> to use, and had no other way to obtain it.

There have been no 'negative texts' Alan. Only reflections of what you
are. Use of these texts against my consent will result in damage
to yourself. Again, you reveal yourself to be a petty impotent
thief.

> I claim no understanding, but that wasn't my argument;

Wasn't referring to any argument, Alan. Was referring to your
'behavior'. Arguments exist only inside your brain.
+ Avoid attempting to abrogate responsibility by simpleton's 'denial'.

> you're thinking of someone else.

I am not thinking, nor thinking of someone else.

I am depicting you_ Alan. Accurately + precisely.
There is no 'juzt'. All that you act you act out with your being.
Fucking around, is fucking around with your being, and your being
primarily. Secondarily, it causes damage to other unconscious
humans.

Murder is marvelous, ne?

> As far as my referencing zen, etc., I'm not going to debate
> that with you.

Nobody is intrested in (your) debates. Nor did I write about
your 'references to zen'. I wrote about what you were ACTUALLY
DOING. Which is pre-meditated, volitional attempt to destroy
+ damage another human, ie. murder. And yes, you shall be
held responsible. By me. Publicly. For being an infantile,
irresponible, impotent + uncreative petty thief attempting
to pass himself off as a 'poet' and an 'artist.'


> > 4. That is, Alan Sondheim has attempted appropriation + extortion
> > of knowledge we have no desire to give to him. Because we will
> > not allow Alan Sondheim to 'feed energetically' + thieve
> > what has been transmitted to us, the rejected princessa howls +
> > whines. "Our" energy + being is not "yours", Alan Sondheim,
> > and refusal to give you what was never yours to begin with,
> > is not 'attempts at anything belonging to you'.
>
> Wow!

No 'wow'. Pathetic behavior on your part. Infantile + weak.
Wow, says the ape, as it kicks itself in the brain, again.

> >
> > Take responsibility for yourself, ape.
>
> I tend to think apes are more intelligent, or at least the bonono -

You can't think, babe.

> Unfortunately I'm only 3 stories up, and I'm not about to run to the
> Palisades -

That's quite all right. You're self-destructing nicely,
in other ways. Only the masochistic egotist fancies
'benefit' from murder + theft.

When you attack another, you attack yourself first.

Sarcasm = self-destruction of nevrous + other
life-force systems.

Carry on, my children, humanity.. bash your brains in.
As the lovely Tzara has noted + observed.

, Alan Sondheim

Wow! I'm a murderer no less! :-)

Alan, more and more amused -

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, -IID42 Kandinskij @27+ wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> > Of course! I admit it. It's definitely my fault. I thought the discussion
> > had deteriorated to the extent that I no longer wanted to participate. So
> > what?
>
> "So what" Defensiveness of the irresponsible murderous idiot
> pretending to be an 'artist' to excuse its impotence +
> attempts at abuse of others.
>
> > Rhizome's quite interesting to me at the moment.
>
> Everything's 'to you' babe. The world revolves around your
> delusioned brain n'est pas?
>
> > As far as the 'jabs' go, give me some credit;
>
> Shall be given credit when you deserve it. Your credit is now
> 0.
>
> > I knew they were failing,
>
> You're not capable of knowing, Alan. Attempting to damage another human
> being for 'personal profit'
> =the idiotic self-destructive mode of existence of the murderous ape.
> Narcissistic masochism + slavery, the substitute for life.
>
> > but I wanted negative text
> > to use, and had no other way to obtain it.
>
> There have been no 'negative texts' Alan. Only reflections of what you
> are. Use of these texts against my consent will result in damage
> to yourself. Again, you reveal yourself to be a petty impotent
> thief.
>
> > I claim no understanding, but that wasn't my argument;
>
> Wasn't referring to any argument, Alan. Was referring to your
> 'behavior'. Arguments exist only inside your brain.
> + Avoid attempting to abrogate responsibility by simpleton's 'denial'.
>
> > you're thinking of someone else.
>
> I am not thinking, nor thinking of someone else.
>
> I am depicting you_ Alan. Accurately + precisely.
> There is no 'juzt'. All that you act you act out with your being.
> Fucking around, is fucking around with your being, and your being
> primarily. Secondarily, it causes damage to other unconscious
> humans.
>
> Murder is marvelous, ne?
>
> > As far as my referencing zen, etc., I'm not going to debate
> > that with you.
>
> Nobody is intrested in (your) debates. Nor did I write about
> your 'references to zen'. I wrote about what you were ACTUALLY
> DOING. Which is pre-meditated, volitional attempt to destroy
> + damage another human, ie. murder. And yes, you shall be
> held responsible. By me. Publicly. For being an infantile,
> irresponible, impotent + uncreative petty thief attempting
> to pass himself off as a 'poet' and an 'artist.'
>
>
> > > 4. That is, Alan Sondheim has attempted appropriation + extortion
> > > of knowledge we have no desire to give to him. Because we will
> > > not allow Alan Sondheim to 'feed energetically' + thieve
> > > what has been transmitted to us, the rejected princessa howls +
> > > whines. "Our" energy + being is not "yours", Alan Sondheim,
> > > and refusal to give you what was never yours to begin with,
> > > is not 'attempts at anything belonging to you'.
> >
> > Wow!
>
> No 'wow'. Pathetic behavior on your part. Infantile + weak.
> Wow, says the ape, as it kicks itself in the brain, again.
>
> > >
> > > Take responsibility for yourself, ape.
> >
> > I tend to think apes are more intelligent, or at least the bonono -
>
> You can't think, babe.
>
> > Unfortunately I'm only 3 stories up, and I'm not about to run to the
> > Palisades -
>
> That's quite all right. You're self-destructing nicely,
> in other ways. Only the masochistic egotist fancies
> 'benefit' from murder + theft.
>
> When you attack another, you attack yourself first.
>
> Sarcasm = self-destruction of nevrous + other
> life-force systems.
>
> Carry on, my children, humanity.. bash your brains in.
> As the lovely Tzara has noted + observed.
>
>
>

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, D42 Kandinskij

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Alan Sondheim wrote:

> Wow! I'm a murderer no less! :-)

Certainly you are. Likely 'proud' of yourself.


> Alan, more and more amused -

No dearest, you are not 'amused'. You're posturing
in order to avoid harsh reality about yourself.
Amusement genuine is the state of healthy +
conscious being. Knee-jerking programmatically
is not such.

Also attempting to 'slight' + 'giggle, who me?'
the fact that you abrogate responsibility for
your actions + thusly are voluntary slave.

Alan: "I'm damaging others. Giggle. So what.
I'm so amused".

Alle ist art.

, Alan Sondheim

You're right - I'm not amused; I'm laughing at this point - :-)

Thanks, Alan -

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, -IID42 Kandinskij @27+ wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> > Wow! I'm a murderer no less! :-)
>
> Certainly you are. Likely 'proud' of yourself.
>
>
> > Alan, more and more amused -
>
> No dearest, you are not 'amused'. You're posturing
> in order to avoid harsh reality about yourself.
> Amusement genuine is the state of healthy +
> conscious being. Knee-jerking programmatically
> is not such.
>
> Also attempting to 'slight' + 'giggle, who me?'
> the fact that you abrogate responsibility for
> your actions + thusly are voluntary slave.
>
> Alan: "I'm damaging others. Giggle. So what.
> I'm so amused".
>
> Alle ist art.
>
>

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, D42 Kandinskij

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Alan Sondheim wrote:

> Wow! I'm a murderer no less! :-)

Certainly you are. Likely 'proud' of yourself.


> Alan, more and more amused -

No dearest, you are not 'amused'. You're posturing
in order to avoid harsh reality about yourself.
Amusement genuine is the state of healthy +
conscious being. Knee-jerking programmatically
is not such.

Also attempting to 'slight' + 'giggle, who me?'
the fact that you abrogate responsibility for
your actions + thusly are voluntary slave.

Alan: "I'm damaging others. Giggle. So what.
I'm so amused".

Alle ist art.


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, D42 Kandinskij

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Alan Sondheim wrote:

> You're right - I'm not amused; I'm laughing at this point - :-)

No dearest. You're not 'laughing' either.
Knee-jerk from self-importance, hits itself over the head,
all laughing, laughing.

Accompanied by illiteracy, self-mesmerized hyponosis,
abrogation of self-responsbility, and blindness, impotence.

Amazing, isn't it?

How about something else to make you 'laugh' even more:
you know that old wives tale about masturbation and blindness?

Wink.








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