Re: (asco-o) http://turbulence.org/Works/Eryk/ai/

ASCII is only one of several codes to assist in presenting text on a screen or
printout, or sent across a network. It represents the internal bit storage of
a character in computer memory and how that is interpreted. Others such
standards exist and are used. EPCDIC (sp) was one I used for a long time at
IBM.

The application of text to image creation has no relation to ASCII, and this
Coca-Cola/ASCII show is a bit of a stretch. However, misinformation sometimes
sells.

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Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

> On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, asco-o wrote:
>
> > If a country has both Coca Cola and the Internet, is it an American
> Territory?
>
> Alle ist American territory. Du shall die among Americans.
>
> > It can be said that there is no greater symbol for American
> > Globalization than the logo plastered onto Coca Cola cans.
>
> In America at the turn of the century and particularly blooming
> red flowers many secret societies developed.
>
> The apes pranced about in the newly discovered American
> territories, de-light-ing in meaningless lexical category shifting,
> as well as in tools they no longer remembered anything about,
> not in the least of who, when, how, or why gave it to them.
>
> The most delightful middle class apes are permitted to join dze circus,
> where they are publically executed to thee endless delight of the
> audience. It is a very literate + civilized kind of murder, also
> simply Superior.
>
> Recently there have been observed reports of a warring faction
> activities between the lowercase and THE ALLCAPS, complete with
> total whistle, click and cut vs. guitar noise soundtrack.
>
> It's still all foux.
>
> > Coca Cola is so linked to America
> > that its factories share a distinction with American embassies and
> > battleships as terrorist targets: Coca Cola plants have been bombed in
> > Nepal and New Delhi.
>
> Coca-Cola is not linked with America at all dearest.
>
> > But the myths at the heart of Coca Cola's business strategies are
> > similar to the myths that surround the internet.
>
> That would be because Eryk Salvaggio is privy to the Coca-Cola business
> strategies.
>
> > Coca Cola claims to be a great equalizer;
>
> Does it? The 'great equalizer' is actually Eryk Salvaggio's obsession.
>
> > the brotherhood of man united by the taste of a soft drink.
>
> Cheap slogan-propaganda attempted to be passed on as insight.
>
> > The internet is said to be an equalizer, allowing common ground and
> > communication between all the peoples of the world.
>
> Is it said so?
>
> > Technology allows you
>
> Me who?
>
> > to connect to the internet from virtually anywhere in the world,
>
> Especialy China.
>
> > and it
> > is quite possible that as your modem connects, you will be able to find
> > a
> > Coca Cola through some local vendor, regardless of whether you are in
> > Israel, Japan, England, Macau, China, or Columbia.
>
> That would be because Eryk has been to all of the above.
>
> > While the Coca Cola logo is recognized as the symbol of American
> > Commerce across the world; with only minor changes by region, there is
> > another equivalent on the internet: ASCII;
>
> Note the conflation of world and internet. Also note that Eryk
> Salvaggio has been 'around the world'.
>
> > the universal standard
>
> Yes, last time I was on Mars they used ASCII too.
>
> > for transmitting data via email and web sites. But while it is a
> > universal standard, it is named after its country of origin- The
> > American Standard Code for Information Interchange.
>
> De-lightfuy 'educational'.
>
> > While there are variants of ASCII in Cyrillic and in other scripts; it
> > has only been recently that you can access a web site in, say, Japan, by
> > actually typing with Japanese characters. While it has been expanded, it
> > is still unpopular,
>
> Unpopular. Another favorite word operating the salvaggio unit.
>
> > and hasn't caught on with most international web surfers.
>
> "International web surfers".
>
> > Much like globalism at its worst,
>
> Something that doesn't exist at its worst?
>
> > ASCII says to other systems, "You can have your own culture, see?" but
> > threatens the existence of that culture through the pressure of
> > economics.
>
> Yes that's EXACTLY what ASCII does.
>
> > When in Korea, do what the Koreans do- search for a flower shop with
> English letters.
>
>
> > My proposed piece, "American Internet",
>
> Like all of ERyk's 'internet pieces' which are cheap exploitations
> of 'hot topics' and read like the headlines of a pychotic third rate
> trash newspaper..
>
> > would compare the ubiquity of ASCII and Coca Cola;
>
> That ist the way we can relate to reaity, ne?
>
>
> > using one as metaphor for the other at any given point.
>
> Totally exchangable.
>
> > I would like to create "portraits" of Coca Cola cans from different
> > countries.
>
> Which consist of photos of scanned coke cans run through an
> ascii-program.
>
> > One would access them through a central index made up of
> > domain extensions from foreign countries- ".fr" for France, for example.
>
> What a pity that a series of ASCII-fied photo of coke cans does NOT do
> what you're claiming to be doing at all?
>
> > The work is network based because it relies solely on html to generate
> > the images- there would actually be no images involved, merely the
> > evocation of images, via ASCII text. The images rely on the language of
> > the browser in order to be seen.
>
> And that is network related.
>
> > The cans themselves would be rendered to ASCII with attention towards
> aesthetics, but will be regimented to red on a black background. The font
> size for the ASCII would be set to small, allowing for the logo to be readily
> identifiable but abstracted at the same time. The use of the logo fits
> comfortably within fair use practices as a clearly satirical artistic
> reinterpretation.
>
> Clearly satirical?
>
> > While I intend to create this piece so that a viewer can simply enjoy
> > it's aesthetic value,
>
> WHAT aesthetic value?
>
> > I hope the similarities evident in this piece will
> > evoke questions concerning Globalism. Is internet access and Coca Cola
> > enough to "Americanize" a country? Can you tell the strength of a
> > culture by looking at how much it changes the face of its Coca Cola
> > cans?
>
> Standard meaninbgless highschool drivel.
> Though shalt play along with ERyk's particular fucking-with-my-own brain
> myopic delusions. This way you will be an intelligent being.
>
> I propose we examine ERyk's piece from the point of view of a standard
> American kid's brain attemting to impose its cultural conditioning
> by creating 'meaningful artworks' which are disposable empty packages
> with no essential value whatsoever, and which are designed to use
> cheaply abusable knee-jerks such 'as 'globalisation' 'americanisation'
> 'coca-cola' etc, in order to propagate a certain delusional chimera
> dream's existence.
>
> Also we announce $500 award for anyone who presents us with an ACCURATE
> and total picture of what ERyk Salvaggio really IS and what he's doing.
>
>
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, joseph (yes) wrote:

> ASCII is only one of several codes to assist in presenting text on a screen or
> printout, or sent across a network. It represents the internal bit storage of
> a character in computer memory and how that is interpreted. Others such
> standards exist and are used. EPCDIC (sp) was one I used for a long time at
> IBM.
>
> The application of text to image creation has no relation to ASCII, and this
> Coca-Cola/ASCII show is a bit of a stretch.

Meaningless drivel.

> However, misinformation sometimes sells.

Knee-jerk judgementalism, peddled as insight.