All you need is luv.

PARTHENOGENESIS - Marina Zurkow, USA

Rumi asked, "What is the heart? It is not human, and it is not
imaginary."

So much for Eryk's Sufism influenced humanistic atheism.

I also can't wait for Joseph to throw in a very WISE comment about that
one too. Rumi, Gurdjieff, Abramovic, Buddha–they are only perceptions at the
palm of his hand. Nothing exists outside of Joseph :)

(except for evil hawks who feed on people's cores)

:F

Comments

, joseph mcelroy

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

>
> PARTHENOGENESIS - Marina Zurkow, USA
>
> Rumi asked, "What is the heart? It is not human, and it is not
> imaginary."
>
> So much for Eryk's Sufism influenced humanistic atheism.
>
> I also can't wait for Joseph to throw in a very WISE comment about that
> one too. Rumi, Gurdjieff, Abramovic, Buddha–they are only perceptions at the
> palm of his hand. Nothing exists outside of Joseph :)
>
> (except for evil hawks who feed on people's cores)

No "thing" exists, but there is existence. Perceptions are contaminated and
perfect and unique. There are other perceptions beside my own. Perception is
not knowledge and not truth.

Joseph

, D42 Kandinskij

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:

> No "thing" exists, but there is existence.

Right.

> Perceptions are contaminated

No they are not.

> and perfect and unique.

Hardly perfect, and hardly unique.

> There are other perceptions beside my own.
> Perception is not knowledge and not truth.

It certainly is. When one isn't merely re-arranging verbal concepts.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

, joseph mcelroy

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

>
> PARTHENOGENESIS - Marina Zurkow, USA
>
> Rumi asked, "What is the heart? It is not human, and it is not
> imaginary."
>

My heart is a cup and my body is a shoe, neither of which are perceived to
exist. If I don't know MY heart, whose could I know?

Joseph

, D42 Kandinskij

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:

> My heart is a cup and my body is a shoe, neither of which are perceived to
> exist. If I don't know MY heart, whose could I know?

Pointificating and meaningless.
Your heart is asleep and you lack knowledge of it.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

, joseph mcelroy

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

>
> > Perceptions are contaminated
>
> No they are not.

If we see a moon in the sky, a second moon imagined behind it, and a moon in
the water, which is the non-contaminated perception or are they all perfect?

>
> > and perfect and unique.
>
> Hardly perfect, and hardly unique.
>
> > There are other perceptions beside my own.
> > Perception is not knowledge and not truth.
>
> It certainly is. When one isn't merely re-arranging verbal concepts.

"Therefore, creating knowledge within enlightened perception is fundamental
ignorance. To be devoid of perception within enlightened
perception is the non-outflow true purity of Nirvana. Why try to put something
else in these?"

joseph

, joseph mcelroy

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:
>
> > My heart is a cup and my body is a shoe, neither of which are perceived to
> > exist. If I don't know MY heart, whose could I know?
>
> Pointificating and meaningless.
> Your heart is asleep and you lack knowledge of it.

Why does a bird need to know mathematics?

joseph

, D42 Kandinskij

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:

> If we see a moon in the sky, a second moon imagined behind it, and a moon in
> the water, which is the non-contaminated perception or are they all perfect?

Find the answer yourself.

> "Therefore, creating knowledge within enlightened perception is fundamental
> ignorance. To be devoid of perception within enlightened
> perception is the non-outflow true purity of Nirvana. Why try to put something
> else in these?"

Nobody is putting anything anywhere. Nor do you understand any of the
above. You're 'parroting' to prove a point.

All around: drivel.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

, D42 Kandinskij

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:

> Why does a bird need to know mathematics?

Nothing of relevance to what I said.
You are not 'automatically conscious' baby.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

, Eryk Salvaggio

Since when does "influenced by" mean "follows to the exact letter?"

-e.



-IID42 Kandinskij @27+ wrote:

>PARTHENOGENESIS - Marina Zurkow, USA
>
>Rumi asked, "What is the heart? It is not human, and it is not
>imaginary."
>
>So much for Eryk's Sufism influenced humanistic atheism.
>
>I also can't wait for Joseph to throw in a very WISE comment about that
>one too. Rumi, Gurdjieff, Abramovic, Buddha–they are only perceptions at the
>palm of his hand. Nothing exists outside of Joseph :)
>
>(except for evil hawks who feed on people's cores)
>
>:F
>
>
>
>
>
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Eryk Salvaggio wrote:

> Since when does "influenced by" mean "follows to the exact letter?"

Nobody is asking you to follow by the exact letter either dear.
This is not what I speak of.

, joseph mcelroy

Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <[email protected]>:

>
>
> Since when does "influenced by" mean "follows to the exact letter?"
>
> -e.

Since the day K first was enlightened, his fear replaced with knowledge, and
his mind filled with rules to follow. He once said to the effect that I would
quake if suddenly faced with rigid rules (since I follow flexible ones). But
from architecture I know that rigid buildings are the most likely to fail in an
earthquake. And brittle old trees snap in the wind.

joseph

, D42 Kandinskij

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:

> Since the day K first was enlightened,

Drivel. Dearest, why don't you address your idiotic con-man activities
instead of attemptic pathetic and iconherent jabs?

> his fear replaced with knowledge,

Your projections are your own problems. Fear is not connected to
knowledge. You feel threatened don't ya?

Pathetic illiterate ape. To make matters even worse you refuse any
responsibility for your actions, and you fancy mediocre drivel is going
to get you out of this one: not.


> and his mind filled with rules to follow.

Wishful debasory projection.

> He once said to the effect that I would
> quake if suddenly faced with rigid rules

I said nothing of the sort, dearest. Your myopic misreadings are
only your own problems.

> (since I follow flexible ones).

You don't 'follow' any rules. You're a raggedy-doll kicked about by
anything that passes by. And, you are taking things personally.
VERY personally.

> But from architecture I know that rigid buildings are the most likely to fail in an
> earthquake. And brittle old trees snap in the wind.

You are talking about yourself, pathetic little ape.
You have no fluidity whatsoever, and only in your idiotic brain
does fluidity amount to lack of discipline, and discipline
to rigidity.

Keep your debasory projections to yourself.

, D42 Kandinskij

The correct statement made with regards to what Joseph wrote
was, that what you DISLIKE is the idea of an actual authority–
which is precisely evident in your idiotic attempts to deny it,
even though it is not sibject to your opinions, no matter how many
emails you write and how much you stomp your feet–because in the
PRESENCE of such you COULDN'T attempt to pass yourselves as what
you are NOT: appropriating the work of exceptional men, while
even lacking BASIC 'understanding' of what is involved, in order
to stage your careers. That you associate authority with rigidity is a
personal problem that I have nothing to do with–similarly with your
idiotic psychopathic spineless slug behavior being passed on as
'flexible'. Slime is flexible. Consciousness is not being slimy.

What is most sickening, is that you beat yourselves in the chests about
your 'humanity' and with the same face rip, destroy and damage what is
created by various beings as pathways for conscious development for
humanity–and that it is PRECISELY THIS destruction and not some 'evil
rulerz' that contributes to the most ENROMOUS degree to the continuous
petrifaction, destruction, and grinding down of humanity (no, I am not
saying this because 'I care'–because I don't, and to give you a slight
clue–nobody really does). Your assumption that somebody out there 'cares'
is based on your facile drivel about 'luv' which hasn't got anything to do
with LOVe at all, but is based alternately on immature pathos (paternal
energy exchange and mirror-type identification via reproductive systems)
or psychotic and monstrous brain obsessions.

So, observe yourselves as you really are–not as you'd LIKE to FANTASIZE
that you are.

I'm not holding my breath about your taking responsibility for your
idiocy, however.

, joseph mcelroy

Now that really pissed you off didn't it? Sorry, don't want to hurt your old
heart there.

Joseph

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

> The correct statement made with regards to what Joseph wrote
> was, that what you DISLIKE is the idea of an actual authority–
> which is precisely evident in your idiotic attempts to deny it,
> even though it is not sibject to your opinions, no matter how many
> emails you write and how much you stomp your feet–because in the
> PRESENCE of such you COULDN'T attempt to pass yourselves as what
> you are NOT: appropriating the work of exceptional men, while
> even lacking BASIC 'understanding' of what is involved, in order
> to stage your careers. That you associate authority with rigidity is a
> personal problem that I have nothing to do with–similarly with your
> idiotic psychopathic spineless slug behavior being passed on as
> 'flexible'. Slime is flexible. Consciousness is not being slimy.
>
> What is most sickening, is that you beat yourselves in the chests about
> your 'humanity' and with the same face rip, destroy and damage what is
> created by various beings as pathways for conscious development for
> humanity–and that it is PRECISELY THIS destruction and not some 'evil
> rulerz' that contributes to the most ENROMOUS degree to the continuous
> petrifaction, destruction, and grinding down of humanity (no, I am not
> saying this because 'I care'–because I don't, and to give you a slight
> clue–nobody really does). Your assumption that somebody out there 'cares'
> is based on your facile drivel about 'luv' which hasn't got anything to do
> with LOVe at all, but is based alternately on immature pathos (paternal
> energy exchange and mirror-type identification via reproductive systems)
> or psychotic and monstrous brain obsessions.
>
> So, observe yourselves as you really are–not as you'd LIKE to FANTASIZE
> that you are.
>
> I'm not holding my breath about your taking responsibility for your
> idiocy, however.

, Eryk Salvaggio

I am subscribed to Rhizome, (for some reason), so there is no need to
cross post these dialogues to my own inbox.

-e.




[email protected] wrote:

>Now that really pissed you off didn't it? Sorry, don't want to hurt your old
>heart there.
>
>Joseph
>
>Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:
>
>>The correct statement made with regards to what Joseph wrote
>>was, that what you DISLIKE is the idea of an actual authority–
>>which is precisely evident in your idiotic attempts to deny it,
>>even though it is not sibject to your opinions, no matter how many
>>emails you write and how much you stomp your feet–because in the
>>PRESENCE of such you COULDN'T attempt to pass yourselves as what
>>you are NOT: appropriating the work of exceptional men, while
>>even lacking BASIC 'understanding' of what is involved, in order
>>to stage your careers. That you associate authority with rigidity is a
>>personal problem that I have nothing to do with–similarly with your
>>idiotic psychopathic spineless slug behavior being passed on as
>>'flexible'. Slime is flexible. Consciousness is not being slimy.
>>
>>What is most sickening, is that you beat yourselves in the chests about
>>your 'humanity' and with the same face rip, destroy and damage what is
>>created by various beings as pathways for conscious development for
>>humanity–and that it is PRECISELY THIS destruction and not some 'evil
>>rulerz' that contributes to the most ENROMOUS degree to the continuous
>>petrifaction, destruction, and grinding down of humanity (no, I am not
>>saying this because 'I care'–because I don't, and to give you a slight
>>clue–nobody really does). Your assumption that somebody out there 'cares'
>>is based on your facile drivel about 'luv' which hasn't got anything to do
>>with LOVe at all, but is based alternately on immature pathos (paternal
>>energy exchange and mirror-type identification via reproductive systems)
>>or psychotic and monstrous brain obsessions.
>>
>>So, observe yourselves as you really are–not as you'd LIKE to FANTASIZE
>>that you are.
>>
>>I'm not holding my breath about your taking responsibility for your
>>idiocy, however.
>>
>

, joseph mcelroy

I'm supposed to be on your filter remove list.

Joseph

Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <[email protected]>:

> I am subscribed to Rhizome, (for some reason), so there is no need to
> cross post these dialogues to my own inbox.
>
> -e.
>
>
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >Now that really pissed you off didn't it? Sorry, don't want to hurt your old
> >heart there.
> >
> >Joseph
> >
> >Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:
> >
> >>The correct statement made with regards to what Joseph wrote
> >>was, that what you DISLIKE is the idea of an actual authority–
> >>which is precisely evident in your idiotic attempts to deny it,
> >>even though it is not sibject to your opinions, no matter how many
> >>emails you write and how much you stomp your feet–because in the
> >>PRESENCE of such you COULDN'T attempt to pass yourselves as what
> >>you are NOT: appropriating the work of exceptional men, while
> >>even lacking BASIC 'understanding' of what is involved, in order
> >>to stage your careers. That you associate authority with rigidity is a
> >>personal problem that I have nothing to do with–similarly with your
> >>idiotic psychopathic spineless slug behavior being passed on as
> >>'flexible'. Slime is flexible. Consciousness is not being slimy.
> >>
> >>What is most sickening, is that you beat yourselves in the chests about
> >>your 'humanity' and with the same face rip, destroy and damage what is
> >>created by various beings as pathways for conscious development for
> >>humanity–and that it is PRECISELY THIS destruction and not some 'evil
> >>rulerz' that contributes to the most ENROMOUS degree to the continuous
> >>petrifaction, destruction, and grinding down of humanity (no, I am not
> >>saying this because 'I care'–because I don't, and to give you a slight
> >>clue–nobody really does). Your assumption that somebody out there 'cares'
> >>is based on your facile drivel about 'luv' which hasn't got anything to do
> >>with LOVe at all, but is based alternately on immature pathos (paternal
> >>energy exchange and mirror-type identification via reproductive systems)
> >>or psychotic and monstrous brain obsessions.
> >>
> >>So, observe yourselves as you really are–not as you'd LIKE to FANTASIZE
> >>that you are.
> >>
> >>I'm not holding my breath about your taking responsibility for your
> >>idiocy, however.
> >>
> >

, Eryk Salvaggio

I've answered emails from you since then. So I don't know why that idea
is still in your head.

-e.





[email protected] wrote:

>I'm supposed to be on your filter remove list.
>
>Joseph
>
>Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <[email protected]>:
>
>>I am subscribed to Rhizome, (for some reason), so there is no need to
>>cross post these dialogues to my own inbox.
>>
>>-e.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Now that really pissed you off didn't it? Sorry, don't want to hurt your old
>>>heart there.
>>>
>>>Joseph
>>>
>>>Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>>The correct statement made with regards to what Joseph wrote
>>>>was, that what you DISLIKE is the idea of an actual authority–
>>>>which is precisely evident in your idiotic attempts to deny it,
>>>>even though it is not sibject to your opinions, no matter how many
>>>>emails you write and how much you stomp your feet–because in the
>>>>PRESENCE of such you COULDN'T attempt to pass yourselves as what
>>>>you are NOT: appropriating the work of exceptional men, while
>>>>even lacking BASIC 'understanding' of what is involved, in order
>>>>to stage your careers. That you associate authority with rigidity is a
>>>>personal problem that I have nothing to do with–similarly with your
>>>>idiotic psychopathic spineless slug behavior being passed on as
>>>>'flexible'. Slime is flexible. Consciousness is not being slimy.
>>>>
>>>>What is most sickening, is that you beat yourselves in the chests about
>>>>your 'humanity' and with the same face rip, destroy and damage what is
>>>>created by various beings as pathways for conscious development for
>>>>humanity–and that it is PRECISELY THIS destruction and not some 'evil
>>>>rulerz' that contributes to the most ENROMOUS degree to the continuous
>>>>petrifaction, destruction, and grinding down of humanity (no, I am not
>>>>saying this because 'I care'–because I don't, and to give you a slight
>>>>clue–nobody really does). Your assumption that somebody out there 'cares'
>>>>is based on your facile drivel about 'luv' which hasn't got anything to do
>>>>with LOVe at all, but is based alternately on immature pathos (paternal
>>>>energy exchange and mirror-type identification via reproductive systems)
>>>>or psychotic and monstrous brain obsessions.
>>>>
>>>>So, observe yourselves as you really are–not as you'd LIKE to FANTASIZE
>>>>that you are.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not holding my breath about your taking responsibility for your
>>>>idiocy, however.
>>>>
>

, joseph mcelroy

Its probably a delusion or a myopic knee-jerk reaction ;)

BTW - question about humanistic aetheism…when you are about to die, and you
have a moment of hope that something comes after, will this be considered
hypocritical?

Cheers

Joseph

Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <[email protected]>:

> I've answered emails from you since then. So I don't know why that idea
> is still in your head.
>
> -e.
>
>
>
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >I'm supposed to be on your filter remove list.
> >
> >Joseph
> >
> >Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <[email protected]>:
> >
> >>I am subscribed to Rhizome, (for some reason), so there is no need to
> >>cross post these dialogues to my own inbox.
> >>
> >>-e.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>[email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>>Now that really pissed you off didn't it? Sorry, don't want to hurt your
> old
> >>>heart there.
> >>>
> >>>Joseph
> >>>
> >>>Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:
> >>>
> >>>>The correct statement made with regards to what Joseph wrote
> >>>>was, that what you DISLIKE is the idea of an actual authority–
> >>>>which is precisely evident in your idiotic attempts to deny it,
> >>>>even though it is not sibject to your opinions, no matter how many
> >>>>emails you write and how much you stomp your feet–because in the
> >>>>PRESENCE of such you COULDN'T attempt to pass yourselves as what
> >>>>you are NOT: appropriating the work of exceptional men, while
> >>>>even lacking BASIC 'understanding' of what is involved, in order
> >>>>to stage your careers. That you associate authority with rigidity is a
> >>>>personal problem that I have nothing to do with–similarly with your
> >>>>idiotic psychopathic spineless slug behavior being passed on as
> >>>>'flexible'. Slime is flexible. Consciousness is not being slimy.
> >>>>
> >>>>What is most sickening, is that you beat yourselves in the chests about
> >>>>your 'humanity' and with the same face rip, destroy and damage what is
> >>>>created by various beings as pathways for conscious development for
> >>>>humanity–and that it is PRECISELY THIS destruction and not some 'evil
> >>>>rulerz' that contributes to the most ENROMOUS degree to the continuous
> >>>>petrifaction, destruction, and grinding down of humanity (no, I am not
> >>>>saying this because 'I care'–because I don't, and to give you a slight
> >>>>clue–nobody really does). Your assumption that somebody out there
> 'cares'
> >>>>is based on your facile drivel about 'luv' which hasn't got anything to
> do
> >>>>with LOVe at all, but is based alternately on immature pathos (paternal
> >>>>energy exchange and mirror-type identification via reproductive systems)
> >>>>or psychotic and monstrous brain obsessions.
> >>>>
> >>>>So, observe yourselves as you really are–not as you'd LIKE to FANTASIZE
> >>>>that you are.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm not holding my breath about your taking responsibility for your
> >>>>idiocy, however.
> >>>>
> >

, D42 Kandinskij

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:

> Now that really pissed you off didn't it?

No, it didn't piss me off at all dearest.
Your projectionist impotent myopic words have no grain of reality
in them at all. But yet, you're being your idiotic murderous bully
and attempting a cheap victory. Oh, if I say so, if I am an ass
maybe I'll manage to PROVE that another is 'human' by attempting
to degrade and debase them.

Look at yourself: pathetic impotent asshole.

> Sorry, don't want to hurt your old heart there.

You didn't hurt my heart dearest. Nor any part of me.
The 'pissed off' charge doesn't originate in the
HEART dearest. And it is exactly the HEART that prevents
humans from being 'angry'.

Nice try for 'cheap' I win trick. But you didn't.
And you will never win.

, D42 Kandinskij

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Eryk Salvaggio wrote:

> I am subscribed to Rhizome, (for some reason), so there is no need to
> cross post these dialogues to my own inbox.

What there is 'need' for in terms of my actions is not up to you
to determine.

Are you goingto keep avoiding responsibility for your actions
like the fraudulent coward that you are?

, D42 Kandinskij

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Eryk Salvaggio wrote:

> Refrain from sending me personal email.

Never sent you personal mail dearest. All of it is in public.
Personal is when I send it to YOU nad nobody else.
Your lack of discernment is your personal problem.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

, D42 Kandinskij

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:

> Its probably a delusion or a myopic knee-jerk reaction ;)

Drivel commentary approach attempting to misrepresent what I wrote.
Shove it.

> BTW - question about humanistic aetheism…when you are about to die,

And die you will. Without hope. The world is perfect and just, indeed.

> and you have a moment of hope that something comes after,

For you it won't. And you know it. Inside you kNOW it,
and this internal, non-verbal knowledge informs all of your
behavior. Including your pathetic scrambling about
to 'keep face'–with your delusions (funny how you 'unmask'
others but never have the integrity to acknowledge yourself)–
and your desire to hurt others.

This is why you want to 'unkask' them, and you employ allmanners
of brute actions to attempt to make them 'feel human'–let me hurt you a
bit, let me cripple you, let me victimize you (by means of emotional
basic perceptual or brain push-buttoning) Oh let me teach you about
being human.

What motivates this is you SCREAMING dearest, and you're
screaming in pain, because you've lost your essence.
And waht you want now is that OTHERS be low, fucked and broken
like you are. That's the mask of your 'humaaaaaaaaaaaanity'.

Sorry babe. You lost the game long ago.

Life ain't a VR and the stakes are real.
There is no rewind, loop, go back.
Game over.

, joseph mcelroy

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

>
> Nice try for 'cheap' I win trick. But you didn't.
> And you will never win.

Do I get a stuffed pink panther if I win?

Joseph

, josh zeidner

who is the coward, the one who is using his real
name, or the one who hides behind a false identity?



— "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Eryk Salvaggio wrote:
>
> > I am subscribed to Rhizome, (for some reason), so
> there is no need to
> > cross post these dialogues to my own inbox.
>
> What there is 'need' for in terms of my actions is
> not up to you
> to determine.
>
> Are you goingto keep avoiding responsibility for
> your actions
> like the fraudulent coward that you are?
>
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Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

>
> Sorry babe. You lost the game long ago.
>
> Life ain't a VR and the stakes are real.
> There is no rewind, loop, go back.
> Game over.

Somewhere I hear a wind blowing. It blows hard. Reminds me of the movie,
"Something Wicked This Way Comes" - supposed to be scary, but really was
laughable.

Joseph

, D42 Kandinskij

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:

> Somewhere I hear a wind blowing. It blows hard. Reminds me of the movie,
> "Something Wicked This Way Comes" - supposed to be scary, but really was
> laughable.

Defensive delusional drivel.

, D42 Kandinskij

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, josh zeidner wrote:

> who is the coward, the one who is using his real
> name, or the one who hides behind a false identity?

There is no false identity dearest.
And the bravado of 'I'm using my real name'
is sheer psychotic idiocy and cowardice.


To you as to Eryk: why did Zen monks not use
their real names? Why did painters and artist also
not use their 'real names'? Why didn't Tristan Tzara?

Avoid harrassingthose who know, unlike your posturing,
with that cheap idiotic ego-leash trick.

, josh zeidner

— "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, josh zeidner wrote:
>
> > who is the coward, the one who is using his real
> > name, or the one who hides behind a false
> identity?
>
> There is no false identity dearest.
> And the bravado of 'I'm using my real name'
> is sheer psychotic idiocy and cowardice.

In our age your only true property is your
identity. So put your money where your mouth is or
shut up.

>
>
> To you as to Eryk: why did Zen monks not use
> their real names? Why did painters and artist also
> not use their 'real names'? Why didn't Tristan
> Tzara?

I don't care about zen monks or malcontented
surrealists. Anonymity creates the misinformation
glut. If you believe what you say, then say it with a
straight face.

>
> Avoid harrassingthose who know,

</barf>

> unlike your
> posturing,
> with that cheap idiotic ego-leash trick.


lay off the coffee, dude.

-josh


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On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, josh zeidner wrote:

> In our age your only true property is your
> identity.

Drivel. If you only understood what you're parroting.

> So put your money where your mouth is or shut up.

Idiotic ape. Take your own pill.
Nothing of what you write is anything else but
pseudo-'I'm in the know' drivel.
And you know no more than anyone else.

Avoid dictatoring over humans.

> I don't care about zen monks or malcontented
> surrealists.

Of course you don't. Nothing higher than
Josh Zeidner and his 'identity'.
Maybe you should look up cult of the 'me'.


> Anonymity creates the misinformation glut.

No it doesn't. This is simply your worthless opinion.
Attempting to pass it on as a declarative statement will not
make it any more true.

> If you believe what you say, then say it with a straight face.

Mediocre drivel. You have no idea what 'belief is about.

> > Avoid harrassingthose who know,
>
> </barf>

Coherent.

> > unlike your
> > posturing,
> > with that cheap idiotic ego-leash trick.
>
>
> lay off the coffee, dude.

No coffee, love. Just your idiocy.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

, josh zeidner

— "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, josh zeidner wrote:
>
> > In our age your only true property is your
> > identity.
>
> Drivel. If you only understood what you're
> parroting.
>
> > So put your money where your mouth is or shut up.
>
> Idiotic ape. Take your own pill.
> Nothing of what you write is anything else but
> pseudo-'I'm in the know' drivel.

what the !@#$ does that mean? please forgive mere
simian mortals like myself if we cannot understand
your worthless babeling.

> And you know no more than anyone else.
>
> Avoid dictatoring over humans.

mediocre bourgois drivel nonsensical mutterings of
a pathetic ego complex begging to be destroyed you are
a slime mold if I dare say so an inferior life form a
blah blah blah blah blah, etc.

>
> > I don't care about zen monks or malcontented
> > surrealists.
>
> Of course you don't. Nothing higher than
> Josh Zeidner and his 'identity'.
> Maybe you should look up cult of the 'me'.

oh right! sign up today for the cult of Josh and
recieve a free tee-shirt!

>
>
> > Anonymity creates the misinformation glut.
>
> No it doesn't. This is simply your worthless
> opinion.

everything is someones opinion. opinions are like
assholes, everyones got one and everyone thinks
everyone elses stinks. so what else is new?

ps. yes it does… :)

> Attempting to pass it on as a declarative
> statement will not
> make it any more true.

I declare that that statement was in fact being
passed off as a declarative statement! touche!

>
> > If you believe what you say, then say it with a
> straight face.
>
> Mediocre drivel. You have no idea what 'belief is
> about.

you are a tramp, a lunatic, a trogdolyte, a boffin
and a nerd. you also have no sense of humor, a
definate requisite for the enlightened members of
humanity. na na! were enlightened and your'e not!
say something funny for a change.

>
> > > Avoid harrassingthose who know,
> >
> > </barf>
>
> Coherent.
>

</cough> </tweet> </tweet>

> > > unlike your
> > > posturing,
> > > with that cheap idiotic ego-leash trick.
> >
> >
> > lay off the coffee, dude.
>
> No coffee, love. Just your idiocy.
>

so many idiots, so little time…

bye! jmz


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On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, josh zeidner wrote:

> what the !@#$ does that mean? please forgive mere
> simian mortals like myself if we cannot understand
> your worthless babeling.

Nothing worthles or 'babbling' about what I wrote.
Your projections are irrelevant.


> mediocre bourgois drivel nonsensical mutterings of
> a pathetic ego complex begging to be destroyed you are
> a slime mold if I dare say so an inferior life form a
> blah blah blah blah blah, etc.

Monkey-parroting my words reflects you. not what I wrote.

> oh right! sign up today for the cult of Josh and
> recieve a free tee-shirt!

Right. You and me, baby. We do the same.

> everything is someones opinion.

No, it is not.

> opinions are like assholes, everyones got one and everyone thinks
> everyone elses stinks. so what else is new?

Drivel.

> you are a tramp, a lunatic, a trogdolyte, a boffin
> and a nerd.

You're speaking about yourself.

> you also have no sense of humor, a
> definate requisite for the enlightened members of
> humanity. na na! were enlightened and your'e not!
> say something funny for a change.

You're speaking about yourself.

> so many idiots, so little time…
>
> bye! jmz


Ciao, princess.