get your agitprop on...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler repeatedly + mechanically stuck in
non-orgasm mode:

> > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:
> >
> > > It's quite apparent to me
> >
> > The only thing 'apparent' is your egotistical narcissistic derogatory
> > obsession, love.
>
> Irrelevent.

No, it isn't. It's quite on the spot and completely relevant.
Nor are you qualified to judge whether it is relevant or not.

> Deny it all you want, but you missed the truth of the site because you are
> gullible.

No, I didn't. There is no 'truth' on any_ of these websites.
And stomp your foot as you wisg–but there is nothing gullible about my
actions, moreso you're nowhere near grasping what they are.

That you project gullibility to my actions when there isn't any means
only one thing–that YOU are gullible + you hate yourself for it.

> Sophomoronic.

That, you are, Narcissus. And an illiterate ape.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:

> Well since the vast majority on the planet oppose the war, then all of the
> anti-warniks are nothing more than conformists with no ability to step
> outside the mass-mentality.

Laughable. There is no such thing as 'stepping outside of
mass-mentality'. Nor are YOU outside of mass-mentality.
But like your average contemporary white joe schmoe
you fancyyourself a 'wolf'.

You're nothing but a baa, baby. Little, idiotic, asleep, baa.

> Sheep, they're called.

And sheep you are.

> > Joy:

> > I've got the whole Karei chronicles in a text file,
> reading them he seems a backwater or cistern of holy crapola.

Tzzt. Nothing of the sort.
Your judgement is idiotic + you are illiterate.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:
>
> > Well since the vast majority on the planet oppose the war, then all of
the
> > anti-warniks are nothing more than conformists with no ability to step
> > outside the mass-mentality.
>
> Laughable. There is no such thing as 'stepping outside of
> mass-mentality'. Nor are YOU outside of mass-mentality.
> But like your average contemporary white joe schmoe
> you fancyyourself a 'wolf'.
>
> You're nothing but a baa, baby. Little, idiotic, asleep, baa.
>
> > Sheep, they're called.
>
> And sheep you are.

Gee, and once you regarded me as a murderous ape.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, joy garnett wrote:

> Note:
> These posters are fashioned after PSYOPs leaflets that were dropped over
> Kosovo and Serbia by NATO, courtesy the US Department of Defense in Spring
> 1999. To see the original leaflets click here:
> http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/docs99/990507-leaflets.htm

Nice, keep forwarding that shit-propaganda.
No, wait–it's an artistic statement.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Joy:

I take this as a sign that you personally are not afraid to dis Bush v. Iraq
as hard as your body and mind can muster.

Do you recommend this for other people-artists, myself perhaps included?
Just curious. Also curious what anyone else has to type.

Robert Byrd, Mr. Old Senator, blew up at the Bushies in the Senate recently.
Gore spoke at the Commonwealth Club saying Bush is one large-type asshole.
Mau Dowd has a piece about it in nyt and startribune.com.

Why is everyone being such pussies? Are we really scared of getting
disappeared or losing that plum job with whatever corporation or army we
might want to pay for our retirement?

I've got the whole Karei chronicles in a text file, reading them he seems a
backwater or cistern of holy crapola.

Curt, where you at? I know you're on the conservative side (meaningless
labeling) but do you got fears on this?

Muserna asked where was G2K on Sodom before; well short answer is, I didn't
invent G2K till October 1998. Before that I was way busy sucking the hind
tit if you get my soulglow.

Jonathan Herman

++


>From: joy garnett <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: joy garnett <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: get your agitprop on…
>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:23:19 -0400
>
>Feeling down on the impending war in Iraq?
>Tired of being held hostage by your government?
>Is the growing need to agitate gnawing at your insides?
>
>While you pause to consider your repressed subversive tendencies,
>print out these four Quick 'n Easy posters with one click of a mouse.
>
>Save 'em, trade 'em, or go out in the dead of night and paper the subway,
>the grocery store, the post office…
>
>Or just forward them by email.
>
>http://www.firstpulseprojects.net/agitprop/agitprop.html
>
>Note:
>These posters are fashioned after PSYOPs leaflets that were dropped over
>Kosovo and Serbia by NATO, courtesy the US Department of Defense in Spring
>1999. To see the original leaflets click here:
>http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/docs99/990507-leaflets.htm
>
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From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, joy garnett wrote:
> > Note:
> > These posters are fashioned after PSYOPs leaflets that were dropped over
> > Kosovo and Serbia by NATO, courtesy the US Department of Defense in
Spring
> > 1999. To see the original leaflets click here:
> > http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/docs99/990507-leaflets.htm
>
> Nice, keep forwarding that shit-propaganda.
> No, wait–it's an artistic statement.

It's quite apparent to me that you just revealed your gullibility.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:

> It's quite apparent to me

The only thing 'apparent' is your egotistical narcissistic derogatory
obsession, love.

> that you just revealed your gullibility.

Nothing of the sort has been revealed,
stomp your little princess foot as you please.

Illiterate ape.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:
>
> > It's quite apparent to me
>
> The only thing 'apparent' is your egotistical narcissistic derogatory
> obsession, love.

Irrelevent.

> > that you just revealed your gullibility.
>
> Nothing of the sort has been revealed,
> stomp your little princess foot as you please.

Deny it all you want, but you missed the truth of the site because you are
gullible.

> Illiterate ape.

Sophomoronic.

Well since the vast majority on the planet oppose the war, then all of the
anti-warniks are nothing more than conformists with no ability to step
outside the mass-mentality. Sheep, they're called.

> Joy:
>
> I take this as a sign that you personally are not afraid to dis Bush v.
Iraq
> as hard as your body and mind can muster.
>
> Do you recommend this for other people-artists, myself perhaps included?
> Just curious. Also curious what anyone else has to type.
>
> Robert Byrd, Mr. Old Senator, blew up at the Bushies in the Senate
recently.
> Gore spoke at the Commonwealth Club saying Bush is one large-type
asshole.
> Mau Dowd has a piece about it in nyt and startribune.com.
>
> Why is everyone being such pussies? Are we really scared of getting
> disappeared or losing that plum job with whatever corporation or army we
> might want to pay for our retirement?
>
> I've got the whole Karei chronicles in a text file, reading them he seems
a
> backwater or cistern of holy crapola.
>
> Curt, where you at? I know you're on the conservative side (meaningless
> labeling) but do you got fears on this?
>
> Muserna asked where was G2K on Sodom before; well short answer is, I
didn't
> invent G2K till October 1998. Before that I was way busy sucking the hind
> tit if you get my soulglow.
>
> Jonathan Herman
>
> ++
>
>
> >From: joy garnett <[email protected]>
> >Reply-To: joy garnett <[email protected]>
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: get your agitprop on…
> >Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:23:19 -0400
> >
> >Feeling down on the impending war in Iraq?
> >Tired of being held hostage by your government?
> >Is the growing need to agitate gnawing at your insides?
> >
> >While you pause to consider your repressed subversive tendencies,
> >print out these four Quick 'n Easy posters with one click of a mouse.
> >
> >Save 'em, trade 'em, or go out in the dead of night and paper the subway,
> >the grocery store, the post office…
> >
> >Or just forward them by email.
> >
> >http://www.firstpulseprojects.net/agitprop/agitprop.html
> >
> >Note:
> >These posters are fashioned after PSYOPs leaflets that were dropped over
> >Kosovo and Serbia by NATO, courtesy the US Department of Defense in
Spring
> >1999. To see the original leaflets click here:
> >http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/docs99/990507-leaflets.htm
> >
> >+ http://rhizome.org/cgi/slogan.cgi
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> > > I've got the whole Karei chronicles in a text file,
> > reading them he seems a backwater or cistern of holy crapola.

Karei Chronicles being the twenty or so emails I deleted sin reading them,
and they profoundly do make you seem a backwater or cistern to me when I
read them. Homunculus sin G2K, vous.

>
> Tzzt. Nothing of the sort.

Yet sight, verily something of the sort, amazing you could think I'm in your
labs. Leaves dead are driven.

> Your judgement is idiotic + you are illiterate.

Hey thanks do-cho (MNese for "donut").

You wrote to me, "everything you do is crap," so
www.geocities.com/genius-2000/enmity.JPG you write is crap, but like any
worm you seek to escape to fresh dirt. A maggot you are. And still I love
you, and forgive you completely, and am grateful for you.

>
>
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If one is seeking an antidote to KK's bilious barfing, I highly recommend
W.Blake's "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell;" in fact I insist on it, clubbin
bookie oprah and oprah again. It is the smile on the Iraq invasion
equation, the lilt, the fair, the dancer and the dance.

Read it with a clean palate and smile thro the tears.

++

>On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:
>
> > Well since the vast majority on the planet oppose the war, then all of
>the
> > anti-warniks are nothing more than conformists with no ability to step
> > outside the mass-mentality.
>
> Laughable. There is no such thing as 'stepping outside of
> mass-mentality'. Nor are YOU outside of mass-mentality.
> But like your average contemporary white joe schmoe
> you fancyyourself a 'wolf'.
>
> You're nothing but a baa, baby. Little, idiotic, asleep, baa.
>
> > Sheep, they're called.
>
> And sheep you are.

I'm finna say KK is popping rivets.

Therefore shall we revisit Seven Points for Neutrality?

Goin' over the rails,

Jon

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On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:

> Gee, and once you regarded me as a murderous ape.

The sheep ARE the murderous apes, you idiot.
The impulse to murder is that of an un-evolved, idiotic baa.
Like you.

Xo.

From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler repeatedly + mechanically stuck in
> non-orgasm mode:
>
> > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's quite apparent to me
> > >
> > > The only thing 'apparent' is your egotistical narcissistic
derogatory
> > > obsession, love.
> >
> > Irrelevent.
>
> No, it isn't.

Yes it is.

> It's quite on the spot and completely relevant.

Not at all

> Nor are you qualified to judge whether it is relevant or not.

I am.

> > Deny it all you want, but you missed the truth of the site because you
are
> > gullible.
>
> No, I didn't.

Yes, you did.

> here is no 'truth' on any_ of these websites.

There was a truth to the agitprop site that you missed entirely.

> And stomp your foot as you wisg–but there is nothing gullible about my
> actions, moreso you're nowhere near grasping what they are.

Don't care about your actions whatever they may be. I just made a clear
observation.

> That you project gullibility to my actions when there isn't any means
> only one thing–that YOU are gullible + you hate yourself for it.
>
> > Sophomoronic.
>
> That, you are, Narcissus. And an illiterate ape.

Sophomoronic. Sure ain't no poet; the quality of your writing indicates that
your prose skill have had all the blood drained from it.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Karei Chronicles being the twenty or so emails I deleted sin reading them,
> and they profoundly do make you seem a backwater or cistern to me when I
> read them.

Hardly. Wishful thinking.
A bunch of illiterate apes sitting around passing judgements
on images their brains knee-jerk due to socio-cultural & genetic
conditioning.

+ every single one of you is too scared to leave it behind.

Ah the humanity.


> Homunculus sin G2K, vous.

Homunculus? hardly. sans G2k? Absolutely.

> >
> > Tzzt. Nothing of the sort.
>
> Yet sight, verily something of the sort, amazing you could think I'm in your
> labs. Leaves dead are driven.

No, nothing of the sort luv. You left my labs long ago.
But you keep knocking on the door. No idea why.
there is no food for ya.


> > Your judgement is idiotic + you are illiterate.
>
> Hey thanks do-cho (MNese for "donut").


> You wrote to me, "everything you do is crap," so
> www.geocities.com/genius-2000/enmity.JPG you write is crap,

Sure.

> worm you seek to escape to fresh dirt. A maggot you are.

No baby. The only 'worm' mggot' here is you.
Plus you shall remain so.

> And still I love you, and forgive you completely, and am grateful for you.

Imbecilic energetically vampiric posturing.

Try growing up yourself first, ape.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:

> > No, it isn't.
>
> Yes it is.

No, it is not. And you may stomp your foot as much as you please,
go shout at the wall, scream at the top of your lungs, puff and type it
it again–it will not become irrelevant.

> > It's quite on the spot and completely relevant.
>
> Not at all

Absolutely relevant. As above.


> > Nor are you qualified to judge whether it is relevant or not.
>
> I am.

Nope. You're a blind impotent 'microwave' ape.

> Yes, you did.

Nope, I didn't. Nor are you capable of perceiving anything outside of
your shell. I'm sorry Narcissus–I am not you.

> > here is no 'truth' on any_ of these websites.
>
> There was a truth to the agitprop site that you missed entirely.

No there wasn't. There is very little truth in fact in 99.99% of human
activity, and absolutely NONE in any of your activity in my direction
so far.

> Don't care about your actions whatever they may be. I just made a clear
> observation.

No, you didn't. You're not capable of observations–only
wishful projections. Tzzt. Asleep.

> Sophomoronic. Sure ain't no poet; the quality of your writing indicates that
> your prose skill have had all the blood drained from it.

The quality of my writing is absolutely sublime.
One does not address a monkey as a king.

You're too fucking self-important, idiot.
Even THIs language is impossible for you to grasp.
Don't attempt to dress yourself in garb which doesn't fit.

Erah, um, KK wrote "this society" which he said before doesn't exist. So
he's chokin on the spinters like HAL and Rollerball, and if he thinks
Madonna has real power but G2K don't, well he's nuttier'n a chiffarobe.

He's irate, shootin chaffy, but you know me I dig that, and him too, he's a
corker, a snapperoo, little critter.

Your gal ain't doodly squat,

Herm

++


>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>To: Wally Keeler <[email protected]>
>CC: Max Herman <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
><[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: get your agitprop on…
>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:26:00 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:
>
> > Gee, and once you regarded me as a murderous ape.
>
> The sheep ARE the murderous apes, you idiot.
> The impulse to murder is that of an un-evolved, idiotic baa.
> Like you.
>
> Xo.
>
>
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On the subject of Iraq:

War preys on the fears of the weak and is motivated by greed.

I think their first-strike policy was developed because they want to create
the impression that Iraq is actually a threat to the United States by
stating that we must act before they do. If we act first then there would be
no way to prove that they were ever a threat in the first place.

Iraq is not a threat by any defintion of the word. The reason this is
obvious is because if there were a lot of intelligence on the matter, the
writing on the wall would be broadcasted near and far.

While Saddam may be brutal to his own people, this is no indication that he
has aggression towards the United States. And if there is aggression, it's
simply because the United States has its nose where it shouldn't be. Simple
cause and effect.

I thought Vietnam proved that the United States was fallible but people
continue to confide in the nation as if they couldn't possibly make a
misguided decision.

And I do fear for my saftey like anyone else, but I am sober enough to know
that war will only create as many or more problems than it solves.





On the subject of conformity:

Conformity, or adaption, is a basic human necessity. If you were to actually
try to locate the reality of the situation, you'd find we are just
reproducing organisms that can do a bunch of intelligent things. There's no
criteria for living, and nobody should be held to one. Everyone gets to
decide what they want to do and nobody should be made to feel bad for making
a decision on their own.

Just my opinion.






—– Original Message —–
From: "Wally Keeler" <[email protected]>
To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: get your agitprop on…


> Well since the vast majority on the planet oppose the war, then all of the
> anti-warniks are nothing more than conformists with no ability to step
> outside the mass-mentality. Sheep, they're called.
>
> > Joy:
> >
> > I take this as a sign that you personally are not afraid to dis Bush v.
> Iraq
> > as hard as your body and mind can muster.
> >
> > Do you recommend this for other people-artists, myself perhaps included?
> > Just curious. Also curious what anyone else has to type.
> >
> > Robert Byrd, Mr. Old Senator, blew up at the Bushies in the Senate
> recently.
> > Gore spoke at the Commonwealth Club saying Bush is one large-type
> asshole.
> > Mau Dowd has a piece about it in nyt and startribune.com.
> >
> > Why is everyone being such pussies? Are we really scared of getting
> > disappeared or losing that plum job with whatever corporation or army we
> > might want to pay for our retirement?
> >
> > I've got the whole Karei chronicles in a text file, reading them he
seems
> a
> > backwater or cistern of holy crapola.
> >
> > Curt, where you at? I know you're on the conservative side (meaningless
> > labeling) but do you got fears on this?
> >
> > Muserna asked where was G2K on Sodom before; well short answer is, I
> didn't
> > invent G2K till October 1998. Before that I was way busy sucking the
hind
> > tit if you get my soulglow.
> >
> > Jonathan Herman
> >
> > ++
> >
> >
> > >From: joy garnett <[email protected]>
> > >Reply-To: joy garnett <[email protected]>
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: get your agitprop on…
> > >Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:23:19 -0400
> > >
> > >Feeling down on the impending war in Iraq?
> > >Tired of being held hostage by your government?
> > >Is the growing need to agitate gnawing at your insides?
> > >
> > >While you pause to consider your repressed subversive tendencies,
> > >print out these four Quick 'n Easy posters with one click of a mouse.
> > >
> > >Save 'em, trade 'em, or go out in the dead of night and paper the
subway,
> > >the grocery store, the post office…
> > >
> > >Or just forward them by email.
> > >
> > >http://www.firstpulseprojects.net/agitprop/agitprop.html
> > >
> > >Note:
> > >These posters are fashioned after PSYOPs leaflets that were dropped
over
> > >Kosovo and Serbia by NATO, courtesy the US Department of Defense in
> Spring
> > >1999. To see the original leaflets click here:
> > >http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/docs99/990507-leaflets.htm
> > >
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On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Erah, um, KK wrote "this society" which he said before doesn't exist.

Yes? When I write the word 'this society' I do not intend it in the
same way that you do–or any of the others I've directed such a comment
at. The illiterate monkey that you are, you keep fishing for the surface
as all.

Tsk.

Want to get your panties even more in a knot?
I have the right to appropriatelyuse certain words that you–and most
others don't. Mind you–there are others with the same rights.
And there are many who should they wake up–could have the
same rights too. But these people areless than 100.

Now throw a fit.

> So he's chokin on the spinters like HAL and Rollerball, and if he thinks
> Madonna has real power but G2K don't, well he's nuttier'n a chiffarobe.

hardly. This is your wishful thinking–I guess you just don't like
accepting that G2K is a pile of sinking shit.

The poor thing you.

> He's irate,

I am hardly irate–don't project your wishful desires onto my words.

> shootin chaffy,

Neither.

> but you know me I dig that,

Yes you do. Hence you project it outwards. But Max, baby.
I ain't you.

> Your gal ain't doodly squat,

Speaking of yourself again and again.

Tell us again how words are THE GAME,
you blind ape you.


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On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 [email protected] wrote:

> War preys on the fears of the weak and is motivated by greed.

Not that simplistic. At all. Not even near to the truth.

> While Saddam may be brutal to his own people, this is no indication that he
> has aggression towards the United States. And if there is aggression, it's
> simply because the United States has its nose where it shouldn't be. Simple
> cause and effect.

Spoken like a true dog. If they kick me, they must have a good reason.

> I thought Vietnam proved that the United States was fallible but people
> continue to confide in the nation as if they couldn't possibly make a
> misguided decision.

Is that really what's going on?

> Conformity, or adaption, is a basic human necessity. If you were to actually
> try to locate the reality of the situation, you'd find we are just
> reproducing organisms that can do a bunch of intelligent things.

No, this is not the reality of the situation by a long stretch.
This is genetic and cultural programming which keeps the human
animal in its state. I ain't the first one to say it, and it's
been available–tho not as widely before recently–since humanity
has begun its existence.


> There's no criteria for living,

There certainly are.

> and nobody should be held to one.

People are held to such criteria.


> Everyone gets to decide what they want to do

How long will it take for humans to realize that they
cannot want what they want?

Most human lack the ability to make choice, dear.
What they 'want' are choices dictated to them
by aforementioned conditioning.

> and nobody should be made to feel bad for making a decision on their own.

Certainly. I'd like to see ONE person on this list make a decision.
On his own.

Attempting to pass pre-programmed responses as decision and choices?

No thanks.

As for the concept of 'sheep'' that he speaks off–he doesn't
understand it at all. Sheep doesnt mean the 'unevolved' humans.

Most people are born as 'energetic sheep'–ie as ones who are to follow.
And it is one of the greatest mistake of the 20c to trash that
as being 'unevolved'–as the Reality is, only few are born to lead–
and when sheep attempt to play leaders, you end up with
degenerate mess–resulting in wars, degradation of human existence,
destruction–and ultimately, destruction of humanity's ability
to evolve AT ALL–which is where you're headed these days.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> If one is seeking an antidote to KK's bilious barfing,

The only bilious barfing here is yours love.

> I highly recommend W.Blake's "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell;"

As if you can understand it.

> Read it with a clean palate and smile thro the tears.

O o oo. The grand drama of human feeling.

The tears. The sorrow. The triumphs. The humility. The joy.

Arg! Someone pass me a cup of tea and a biscuit.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:
>
> > > No, it isn't.
> >
> > Yes it is.
>
> No, it is not.

Yes it is.

> And you may stomp your foot as much as you please,
> go shout at the wall, scream at the top of your lungs, puff and type it
> it again–it will not become irrelevant.

Your listing of all the things I may do is also irrelevant.

> > > It's quite on the spot and completely relevant.
> >
> > Not at all
>
> Absolutely relevant. As above.

Look between the lines – irrelevant

> > > Nor are you qualified to judge whether it is relevant or not.
> >
> > I am.
>
> Nope. You're a blind impotent 'microwave' ape.

Yep, you impoetent sophomoronic post-satoric failure.

> > Yes, you did.
>
> Nope, I didn't. Nor are you capable of perceiving anything outside of
> your shell. I'm sorry Narcissus–I am not you.

Thank god for that.

> > > here is no 'truth' on any_ of these websites.
> >
> > There was a truth to the agitprop site that you missed entirely.
>
> No there wasn't.

Yes there was, and you missed it.

> There is very little truth in fact in 99.99% of human
> activity, and absolutely NONE in any of your activity in my direction
> so far.

Making up stats. Now I know what kind of artist you are – a fraud artist,
and not a very good one at that.

> > Don't care about your actions whatever they may be. I just made a clear
> > observation.
>
> No, you didn't.

Yes I did.

> You're not capable of observations–only
> wishful projections. Tzzt. Asleep.

It is difficult to wake you up.

> > Sophomoronic. Sure ain't no poet; the quality of your writing indicates
that
> > your prose skill have had all the blood drained from it.
>
> The quality of my writing is absolutely sublime.

The quality of your writing is oderless, tasteless, colourless, with about
much mourishing substance as a slice of Wonderless white bread.

> One does not address a monkey as a king.

Don't be silly, No one here has called you king.

> You're too fucking self-important, idiot.
> Even THIs language is impossible for you to grasp.
> Don't attempt to dress yourself in garb which doesn't fit.

Naked.

>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>To: Max Herman <[email protected]>
>CC: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: get your agitprop on…
>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Erah, um, KK wrote "this society" which he said before doesn't exist.
>
> Yes? When I write the word 'this society' I do not intend it in the
> same way that you do–or any of the others I've directed such a comment
> at.

Double-dribble.

The illiterate monkey that you are, you keep fishing for the surface
> as all.

"All art is at once both surface and substance," said Oscar Wilde. The
universe has a flat geometry, which has just been proved, but you don't like
that 'cause you're Deep Brown or whatever. You can't perceive that the crux
is the same for all, because you distort the Law of Large Numbers, among
other crucial factors. And you're one cm away from burnout.

>
> Tsk.

Ah can it ya stooge.

>
> Want to get your panties even more in a knot?

Your vulgarity is far from persuasive, dissuasive, or suasive.

> I have the right to appropriatelyuse certain words that you–and most
> others don't.

Ugh you are repellent in your charnality.

> Mind you–there are others with the same rights.

Dude you are straight nuts. Some kinda smart bug.

> And there are many who should they wake up–could have the
> same rights too. But these people areless than 100.

The people who could get the right? You're an abomination.

>
> Now throw a fit.

I think you're nuts if you think only less than 100 people have the right to
use a given word like society, or can talk. That's real racist; I knew an
exec for ABC who said that black people can't talk. He was one powerful man
too! Also, I spent a night in Princeton with the video editor for 20/20 and
his wonderful daughter Dilly, who I'm sure has no right to talk either, but
they do have a copy of the g2k video. Her mom said "it's like the days of
King Alfred" to test me.

>
> > So he's chokin on the spinters like HAL and Rollerball, and if he
>thinks
> > Madonna has real power but G2K don't, well he's nuttier'n a chiffarobe.
>
> hardly. This is your wishful thinking–I guess you just don't like
> accepting that G2K is a pile of sinking shit.

Since when?

>
> The poor thing you.

You got me all wrong. But I spose in your world you're right as rain.
Avakuki!

>
> > He's irate,
>
> I am hardly irate–don't project your wishful desires onto my words.
>

Don't do what? Oh yeah I forgot.

> > shootin chaffy,
>
> Neither.

Yes you are, sneak.

>
> > but you know me I dig that,
>
> Yes you do. Hence you project it outwards. But Max, baby.
> I ain't you.

Right on. You're weirdly accurate all the time. However you are me.

>
> > Your gal ain't doodly squat,
>
> Speaking of yourself again and again.

Hey man my gal is red hot.

>
> Tell us again how words are THE GAME,
> you blind ape you.

You keep lying, and lying, I said language is the game. Words aren't
language. Besides you're the cripple, a dirty freak.

>
>
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From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:
>
> > Gee, and once you regarded me as a murderous ape.
>
> The sheep ARE the murderous apes, you idiot.
> The impulse to murder is that of an un-evolved, idiotic baa.
> Like you.

What boring mediogre prose you write!

POETRY IS POETENCY!

NEWSPEAK IS NOSPEAK

MayWestern civilization prevail.

—– Original Message —–
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: get your agitprop on…


> On the subject of Iraq:
>
> War preys on the fears of the weak and is motivated by greed.
>
> I think their first-strike policy was developed because they want to
create
> the impression that Iraq is actually a threat to the United States by
> stating that we must act before they do. If we act first then there would
be
> no way to prove that they were ever a threat in the first place.
>
> Iraq is not a threat by any defintion of the word. The reason this is
> obvious is because if there were a lot of intelligence on the matter, the
> writing on the wall would be broadcasted near and far.
>
> While Saddam may be brutal to his own people, this is no indication that
he
> has aggression towards the United States. And if there is aggression, it's
> simply because the United States has its nose where it shouldn't be.
Simple
> cause and effect.
>
> I thought Vietnam proved that the United States was fallible but people
> continue to confide in the nation as if they couldn't possibly make a
> misguided decision.
>
> And I do fear for my saftey like anyone else, but I am sober enough to
know
> that war will only create as many or more problems than it solves.
>
>
>
>
>
> On the subject of conformity:
>
> Conformity, or adaption, is a basic human necessity. If you were to
actually
> try to locate the reality of the situation, you'd find we are just
> reproducing organisms that can do a bunch of intelligent things. There's
no
> criteria for living, and nobody should be held to one. Everyone gets to
> decide what they want to do and nobody should be made to feel bad for
making
> a decision on their own.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: "Wally Keeler" <[email protected]>
> To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: get your agitprop on…
>
>
> > Well since the vast majority on the planet oppose the war, then all of
the
> > anti-warniks are nothing more than conformists with no ability to step
> > outside the mass-mentality. Sheep, they're called.
> >
> > > Joy:
> > >
> > > I take this as a sign that you personally are not afraid to dis Bush
v.
> > Iraq
> > > as hard as your body and mind can muster.
> > >
> > > Do you recommend this for other people-artists, myself perhaps
included?
> > > Just curious. Also curious what anyone else has to type.
> > >
> > > Robert Byrd, Mr. Old Senator, blew up at the Bushies in the Senate
> > recently.
> > > Gore spoke at the Commonwealth Club saying Bush is one large-type
> > asshole.
> > > Mau Dowd has a piece about it in nyt and startribune.com.
> > >
> > > Why is everyone being such pussies? Are we really scared of getting
> > > disappeared or losing that plum job with whatever corporation or army
we
> > > might want to pay for our retirement?
> > >
> > > I've got the whole Karei chronicles in a text file, reading them he
> seems
> > a
> > > backwater or cistern of holy crapola.
> > >
> > > Curt, where you at? I know you're on the conservative side
(meaningless
> > > labeling) but do you got fears on this?
> > >
> > > Muserna asked where was G2K on Sodom before; well short answer is, I
> > didn't
> > > invent G2K till October 1998. Before that I was way busy sucking the
> hind
> > > tit if you get my soulglow.
> > >
> > > Jonathan Herman
> > >
> > > ++
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: joy garnett <[email protected]>
> > > >Reply-To: joy garnett <[email protected]>
> > > >To: [email protected]
> > > >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: get your agitprop on…
> > > >Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:23:19 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Feeling down on the impending war in Iraq?
> > > >Tired of being held hostage by your government?
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On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler stripped itself naked:

> Yes it is.

no, it isn't. Let's see exactly how much energy you're going to
piss away on this.

> Your listing of all the things I may do is also irrelevant.

Not at all. It is perfectly descriptive of your behavior.
A blind brain-obsessed ape stomping its foot and making
vague language-resembling noises.

> > Absolutely relevant. As above.
>
> Look between the lines – irrelevant

Spare me your idiotic cliches. It's absolutely relevant.

> Yep, you impoetent sophomoronic post-satoric failure.

tzzt. You're describing yourself again.

> Thank god for that.

Pathetic pose, as you continue ascribing characteristics about
yourself that you dislike to me. Baa.

> > No there wasn't.
>
> Yes there was, and you missed it.

Nope, there wasn't. And I didn't miss anything;
nor are you qualified to discern that.

> > There is very little truth in fact in 99.99% of human
> > activity, and absolutely NONE in any of your activity in my direction
> > so far.
>
> Making up stats.

Not making up anything luv. It's reality.

> Now I know what kind of artist you are – a fraud artist,

The only 'fraud' artist here is you, luv.
That statement is an objective truth that has been said by many
besides me, and does not belong to me.

Keep your pathetic derogatory impulses to yourself.

As for knowing–you're not capable of that either.
Besides shifting cardboard cutouts in your brain, that is :)

> > No, you didn't.
>
> Yes I did.

Nep. Come on, stamp that little foot. I love it.

> > You're not capable of observations–only
> > wishful projections. Tzzt. Asleep.
>
> It is difficult to wake you up.

Sorry baby. Unlike you, I am awake. Don't project your asleepness on me.
But do pray tell how waking up occured to yas.

> The quality of your writing is oderless, tasteless, colourless, with about
> much mourishing substance as a slice of Wonderless white bread.


You're correct luv. Writing is not meant to be nourishing.
Never has been, nor will it be.
But Im sure your vampiric little ego is going waa waa over the lack
of feeding material.

> > One does not address a monkey as a king.
>
> Don't be silly, No one here has called you king.

I am not you; you are the one pretending to be a king.
'master of his fate'. Ha ha.

> Naked.

You are.
I will never be 'naked' and 'visible' to you,
no matter how much your idiotic penis wishes so.

However; 'naked' you are: A vampiric idiotic
farmer's dick.

Laughable. Go play that 'mirroring' trick elsewhere baby.
It only works on people with egos–like yourssssssself.



`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:

> What boring mediogre prose you write!

There is nothing boring or mediocre about what I write.
It's precis + to the point. And I don't write 'prose' baby.

If you want to hear something better, quit acting like an ape-arse.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:

> POETRY IS POETENCY!
>
> NEWSPEAK IS NOSPEAK
>
> MayWestern civilization prevail.

Worthless crap! Wally is so subversive!
He's been reading those counter-culture magz again!

The revolution is here: watch out.
Don't miss the subtle elemental truth
in The matrix: Revolutions. Coming to you in 2003.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> > Yes? When I write the word 'this society' I do not intend it in the
> > same way that you do–or any of the others I've directed such a comment
> > at.
>
> Double-dribble.

Not at all, dear. Individuals are not equal.
They don't posess the same qualities, abilities, and rights.

I know you've been brought up to believe that you can
'do anything'–and that anyone can–bit that's hardly reality.

Though I'm sure you had the possibility to do a number of nice things,
a while back.

> The illiterate monkey that you are, you keep fishing for the surface
> > as all.
>
> "All art is at once both surface and substance," said Oscar Wilde.

Yes, bravo. You can quote. Fantastic.

> universe has a flat geometry,

No, it doesn't.

> which has just been proved,

The universe is not subject to proof.

> but you don't like that

I neither like nor dislike it.
It's simplynot true.


> You can't perceive that the crux is the same for all, because you distort the Law of Large Numbers, among
> other crucial factors.

The crux ain't the same for allbaby. Never has been nor will it be.
I am not distorting any laws at all.

> And you're one cm away from burnout.

Rather the opposite dear. YOU are already burned out.
As for me: I am not even close to burning out.
Nor will I ever be.

Nor are you capable of perceiving such matters,
besides wishful derogatory verbal nonsense-chatter
inside your brain.

> > Want to get your panties even more in a knot?
>
> Your vulgarity is far from persuasive, dissuasive, or suasive.

It's not intended as either. You're vulgar–and vulgarity applies to
you. I'm sure you like to think of yourself in fanciful terms though.

> > I have the right to appropriatelyuse certain words that you–and most
> > others don't.
>
> Ugh you are repellent in your charnality.

I am neither repellent,nor charnal.
And were you not a narcissistic twit
you'd know that words are not reflective of the speaker.
But like any immature undeveloped human,
you fancy all actions to be a reflection of yourself–
and everybody else-s actions to be reflections of their nature.

Hence of course, everyone's crux is the same.
Just like yours. And it's called G2K!

> > Mind you–there are others with the same rights.
>
> Dude you are straight nuts. Some kinda smart bug.

Not at all. And if you understood1/100000 of all of these
poets you read you'd know that. But you don't.

> The people who could get the right? You're an abomination.

Yep. Rights are not automatic. They are to be earned.
And they are not equal for all. Hardly an abomination.

> I think you're nuts if you think only less than 100 people have the right to
> use a given word like society, or can talk.

That is not what I said love. Try to read it again, and UNDERSTAND
instead of throwing epilleptic fits.

> That's real racist;

Hardly. No more racist than saying that most males cannot naturally
conceive and give birth to physical children.

Racism for one implies a hierarchical basis of superiority and
inferiority–while my statement carries no derogatory value
towards its receients–only sympathy due to understanding of the
factors which bring about their condition.

> I knew an exec for ABC who said that black people can't talk.

I am not that exec, nor do I have anything to do with him.
Your juvenile conflating of images is thorughly idiotic.

> > accepting that G2K is a pile of sinking shit.
>
> Since when?

Always.

> You got me all wrong.

Isn't that a nice excuse Youre hidden. Anyone who says the unpleasant
truth about you has 'got you all wrong'.

> But I spose in your world you're right as rain.

Not in 'my world'my dear–the 'my wold' is the narcissistic
self-reflection of the ego.

'My* world is 'the' world–and it's not mine.

> > I am hardly irate–don't project your wishful desires onto my words.
> >
>
> Don't do what? Oh yeah I forgot.

Yes, you enjoy playing dumb + you think it's witty.

> > > shootin chaffy,
> >
> > Neither.
>
> Yes you are, sneak.

Nope. Are you and wally going to do to stompy stomp together?

> Right on. You're weirdly accurate all the time. However you are me.

Not at all. Narcissus.

> Hey man my gal is red hot.

Aren't they all.

> You keep lying, and lying,

Not at all.

> I said language is the game.

Ah–yes. I guess I misremembered your phrase.
But language istn't either.

> Words aren't language.

That is true. But it's not a statement you understand.
Language has never been 'the game'.

> Besides you're the cripple,

You're talking about yourself, love.

> a dirty freak.

And again. I pity your mirror.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler stripped himself naked shamelessly:
>
> > Yes it is.
>
> no, it isn't. Let's see exactly how much energy you're going to
> piss away on this.

The calory loss is good for me.

> > Your listing of all the things I may do is also irrelevant.
>
> Not at all.

Oh very much so.

> It is perfectly descriptive of your behavior.
> A blind brain-obsessed ape stomping its foot and making
> vague language-resembling noises.

He says repetitively.

> > > Absolutely relevant. As above.
> >
> > Look between the lines – irrelevant
>
> Spare me your idiotic cliches. It's absolutely relevant.

Irrelevant once again.

> > Yep, you impoetent sophomoronic post-satoric failure.
>
> tzzt. You're describing yourself again.

Put your mirror down Adonis, it's you.

> > Thank god for that.
>
> Pathetic pose, as you continue ascribing characteristics about
> yourself that you dislike to me. Baa.

Sounding like a sheep again ain't ya.

> > > No there wasn't.
> >
> > Yes there was, and you missed it.
>
> Nope, there wasn't. And I didn't miss anything;
> nor are you qualified to discern that.

Yep you missed the elemental fact of the agitprop site. You are stupid –
can't control your typing, can't communicate, can't discern elemental
truths – just continual denials.

> > > There is very little truth in fact in 99.99% of human
> > > activity, and absolutely NONE in any of your activity in my
direction
> > > so far.
> >
> > Making up stats.
>
> Not making up anything luv. It's reality.

99.99% of your postings are based on literary mediocrity

> > Now I know what kind of artist you are – a fraud artist,
>
> The only 'fraud' artist here is you, luv.

It's you honeybuns

> That statement is an objective truth that has been said by many
> besides me, and does not belong to me.

Making up fiction again? And weak fiction at that.

> Keep your pathetic derogatory impulses to yourself.

Same for you bub.


> As for knowing–you're not capable of that either.
> Besides shifting cardboard cutouts in your brain, that is :)

Same boring image again, indicating a lack of wit on your part – no wonder
you are mediogre.

> > > No, you didn't.
> >
> > Yes I did.
>
> Nep. Come on, stamp that little foot. I love it.

Yep. There's that same boring mediogre image again – running out of
literary devices honeybuns?

> > > You're not capable of observations–only
> > > wishful projections. Tzzt. Asleep.
> >
> > It is difficult to wake you up.
>
> Sorry baby. Unlike you, I am awake.

No ya ain't – it shows in your limp washcloth prose.

> Don't project your asleepness on me.

Fuck your orders.

> But do pray tell how waking up occured to yas.

How much ya willing to pay for the info?

> > The quality of your writing is oderless, tasteless, colourless, with
about
> > much mourishing substance as a slice of Wonderless white bread.
>
> You're correct luv. Writing is not meant to be nourishing.

Yawn.

> Never has been, nor will it be.

Yawn.

> But Im sure your vampiric little ego is going waa waa over the lack
> of feeding material.

Let me know when you wake up.

> > > One does not address a monkey as a king.
> >
> > Don't be silly, No one here has called you king.
>
> I am not you;

He says again and again to convince his uncertain self

> you are the one pretending to be a king.

He says unconvincingly.

> 'master of his fate'. Ha ha.

Pissing against the wind again.

> > Naked.
>
> You are.

I like it.

> I will never be 'naked' and 'visible' to you,

Thank god for that.

> no matter how much your idiotic penis wishes so.

Another banality boner.

> However; 'naked' you are: A vampiric idiotic
> farmer's dick.

Oh a snob who looks down on farmers.

> Laughable. Go play that 'mirroring' trick elsewhere baby.
> It only works on people with egos–like yourssssssself.

Pity that you are completely impoetent to hurt my ego.
I love my invincibility from posturing poseurs like you.

>
>On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > > Yes? When I write the word 'this society' I do not intend it in the
> > > same way that you do–or any of the others I've directed such a
>comment
> > > at.
> >
> > Double-dribble.
>
> Not at all, dear. Individuals are not equal.
> They don't posess the same qualities, abilities, and rights.

I agree. Some people are really rotten.

>
> I know you've been brought up to believe that you can
> 'do anything'–and that anyone can–bit that's hardly reality.

Well I was told the crap I can do anything, and now I know it's not true,
but I'm angry and peeved I was told it.

>
> Though I'm sure you had the possibility to do a number of nice things,
> a while back.

Yeah before I went sour, ego just took over. So I kept on blowin
tipsy-bubbles, and didn't write a book or even a good article. My fuckup.

>
> > The illiterate monkey that you are, you keep fishing for the surface
> > > as all.
> >
> > "All art is at once both surface and substance," said Oscar Wilde.
>
> Yes, bravo. You can quote. Fantastic.

Well I just wonder if it qualifies things at all. I always hated that
quote.

>
> > universe has a flat geometry,
>
> No, it doesn't.

I don't mean everything is a cardboard cutout, just that I read a physics
article about flat geometry and dark energy. I'm thinking the universe is
expanding nested spheres, infinite but bounded, what we can observe is flat
like Plato's shadows. However yeah the universe in toto, all ten
dimensions, is not flat, just the four we can see, but if we think we're
seeing all in four we're being dorks.

>
> > which has just been proved,
>
> The universe is not subject to proof.

I suppose this is true, but I see so much proving, I try to prove stuff, and
then blame the other dummies for being so dumb.

>
> > but you don't like that
>
> I neither like nor dislike it.
> It's simplynot true.

I think it might be true in one way but not all.

>
>
> > You can't perceive that the crux is the same for all, because you
>distort the Law of Large Numbers, among
> > other crucial factors.
>
> The crux ain't the same for allbaby. Never has been nor will it be.
> I am not distorting any laws at all.

Well I still have to figure out if what you're saying is a misuse of the law
of large numbers, though perhaps I should do other things first hey? No the
cross isn't the same for all maybe, however if it is I'm ready to consider
that too.

>
> > And you're one cm away from burnout.
>
> Rather the opposite dear. YOU are already burned out.

I'm not totally burned out, however, yes somewhat burnt out.

> As for me: I am not even close to burning out.
> Nor will I ever be.

I have to go work today, but I appreciate what you're doing.

>
> Nor are you capable of perceiving such matters,
> besides wishful derogatory verbal nonsense-chatter
> inside your brain.

If you're a mind that doesn't jerk people around to please its ego, you're
one of the first such I've met on chatting lists.

>
> > > Want to get your panties even more in a knot?

People have told me, one of my worst problems is I don't get my panties in a
knot enough, but maybe they didn't love me.

> >
> > Your vulgarity is far from persuasive, dissuasive, or suasive.
>
> It's not intended as either. You're vulgar–and vulgarity applies to
> you. I'm sure you like to think of yourself in fanciful terms though.

I have taken the vulgarity thing a bit too far. I'm trying to find out if
you're a rotted version of NN or not, and I'm thinking you're not, but a
person to admire or whatever, decent and fair.

>
> > > I have the right to appropriatelyuse certain words that you–and
>most
> > > others don't.

I don't think you're being fair but that's not your job.

> >
> > Ugh you are repellent in your charnality.
>
> I am neither repellent,nor charnal.

I can't take that on faith though. Are you saying I should, like yesterday?
I'm OK with that, I mean with you saying it, and maybe even doing it. I
might try it.

> And were you not a narcissistic twit
> you'd know that words are not reflective of the speaker.
> But like any immature undeveloped human,
> you fancy all actions to be a reflection of yourself–
> and everybody else-s actions to be reflections of their nature.

Yes, instead of the distorted freakishness they are. If you are what you
say you are, I hope to earn your regard one day.

>
> Hence of course, everyone's crux is the same.
> Just like yours. And it's called G2K!

Yeah. I'm thinking of the hollow earth society image.

>
> > > Mind you–there are others with the same rights.
> >
> > Dude you are straight nuts. Some kinda smart bug.
>
> Not at all. And if you understood1/100000 of all of these
> poets you read you'd know that. But you don't.

If you're as evolved as you say you are, and I'm thinking you might be, I'll
make you proud one day, maybe, or at least, I'm glad you're out there.

>
> > The people who could get the right? You're an abomination.
>
> Yep. Rights are not automatic. They are to be earned.
> And they are not equal for all. Hardly an abomination.

Isn't there like some atomic-propositional right that doesn't have to be
earned?

>
> > I think you're nuts if you think only less than 100 people have the
>right to
> > use a given word like society, or can talk.
>
> That is not what I said love. Try to read it again, and UNDERSTAND
> instead of throwing epilleptic fits.
>
> > That's real racist;
>
> Hardly. No more racist than saying that most males cannot naturally
> conceive and give birth to physical children.
>
> Racism for one implies a hierarchical basis of superiority and
> inferiority–while my statement carries no derogatory value
> towards its receients–only sympathy due to understanding of the
> factors which bring about their condition.
>
> > I knew an exec for ABC who said that black people can't talk.
>
> I am not that exec, nor do I have anything to do with him.
> Your juvenile conflating of images is thorughly idiotic.

Well I'm overly cautious, you know that right?

>
> > > accepting that G2K is a pile of sinking shit.
> >
> > Since when?
>
> Always.

I change my mind a lot, like a dirty diaper.

>
> > You got me all wrong.
>
> Isn't that a nice excuse Youre hidden. Anyone who says the unpleasant
> truth about you has 'got you all wrong'.

I was just angling for pity–it works on most people, one way I use to check
stuff.

>
> > But I spose in your world you're right as rain.
>
> Not in 'my world'my dear–the 'my wold' is the narcissistic
> self-reflection of the ego.
>
> 'My* world is 'the' world–and it's not mine.
>
> > > I am hardly irate–don't project your wishful desires onto my words.

I'll work on that, if I can still work at all, which may yes be fairly
doubted.

> > >
> >
> > Don't do what? Oh yeah I forgot.
>
> Yes, you enjoy playing dumb + you think it's witty.

I do it, around jerks who are trying to jerk me around, which is about all
I've ever met, being not much more than a blastocyst. And that ain't cute,
I know. "Life is the crummiest book I've ever read."

>
> > > > shootin chaffy,
> > >
> > > Neither.
> >
> > Yes you are, sneak.
>
> Nope. Are you and wally going to do to stompy stomp together?

You know something kid? YOU'RE ALL RIGHT!

>
> > Right on. You're weirdly accurate all the time. However you are me.
>
> Not at all. Narcissus.

Not even a little?

>
> > Hey man my gal is red hot.
>
> Aren't they all.

It's just a dumb fifties song I'm quoting. If I don't have the right to
doubt you, then I'm more of a Darth Vader/Frustrated Baby, as you say.

>
> > You keep lying, and lying,
>
> Not at all.

I won't ever believe anyone just because they say that.

>
> > I said language is the game.
>
> Ah–yes. I guess I misremembered your phrase.
> But language istn't either.

It was a dumb comment anyway.

>
> > Words aren't language.
>
> That is true. But it's not a statement you understand.
> Language has never been 'the game'.

I meant, in this rotted world it's the big game.

>
> > Besides you're the cripple,
>
> You're talking about yourself, love.

How would I know? You might be a horrid hoary cripple, like the Ancient
Mariner. And maybe I'm different than you in a good way, like better.

>
> > a dirty freak.
>
> And again. I pity your mirror.

I'm late for work now.

>
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Wally Keeler wrote:

> > no, it isn't. Let's see exactly how much energy you're going to
> > piss away on this.
>
> The calory loss is good for me.

Ain't calories, love. You're sapping your own vital energy.

> > Not at all.
>
> Oh very much so.

Not at all. Keep pissing your energy away though. For how much longer?

> > It is perfectly descriptive of your behavior.
> > A blind brain-obsessed ape stomping its foot and making
> > vague language-resembling noises.
>
> He says repetitively.

No, not repetitively. It's accurate.
Repetitiveness exists only on knee-jerk levels.

> > Spare me your idiotic cliches. It's absolutely relevant.
>
> Irrelevant once again.

Not at all. Self-delusional ape.

> > > Yep, you impoetent sophomoronic post-satoric failure.
> >
> > tzzt. You're describing yourself again.
>
> Put your mirror down Adonis, it's you.

No, baby, it isn't 'me'.
You're not capable of reflection–nor does it happen via words.

> > > Thank god for that.
> >
> > Pathetic pose, as you continue ascribing characteristics about
> > yourself that you dislike to me. Baa.
>
> Sounding like a sheep again ain't ya.

The only sheep here is you baby. And you hate yourself for it.

> > Nope, there wasn't. And I didn't miss anything;
> > nor are you qualified to discern that.
>
> Yep you missed the elemental fact of the agitprop site.

Nope, nothing of the sort.

> You are stupid –

The only one stupid here is you, baby.

> can't control your typing,

Typing is not 'controlled'. Nor do I care about typing.
Keep your myopic straightjacket to yourself, love.

> can't communicate,

Certainly can dear, unlike the lot of you here,
who are narcissistically tangled in your own projections.

> can't discern elemental truths

Certainly can. I will not 'discern' things that are not there to
be discerned though, no matter how much you froth.

> – just continual denials.

That would be yourself. Master of your fate.

> > Not making up anything luv. It's reality.
>
> 99.99% of your postings are based on literary mediocrity

Nope. 100% of my posts are accurate, and with nointention of being
literary. Yet another of your narcissistic myopic straight jackets that
you can keep to yourself.

> > > Now I know what kind of artist you are – a fraud artist,
> >
> > The only 'fraud' artist here is you, luv.
>
> It's you honeybuns

No, baby. I am not you. can't escape that self-reflection huh?

> > That statement is an objective truth that has been said by many
> > besides me, and does not belong to me.
>
> Making up fiction again? And weak fiction at that.

Not making up anything baby. But you're reaching new levels
of narcissistic delusion. Yeehaw!

> > Keep your pathetic derogatory impulses to yourself.
>
> Same for you bub.

No baby, I am not you. You are the one who has those impulses,
I don't. But the level of yoir 'communication' abilities is
that of a two year old pointing in the mirror and sniggering in delusion
and denial.

> Same boring image again,

Images cannot be boring love. You are bored, because you are an
insufferable egotistical bore, and you like being so.


> indicating a lack of wit on your part

Nothing of the sort.

> – no wonder you are mediogre.

The only one mediocre here is you baby.
Idiotic misspellings of words will not make you any wittier
observant or more intelligent.

> > > > No, you didn't.
> > >
> > > Yes I did.
> >
> > Nep. Come on, stamp that little foot. I love it.
>
> Yep. There's that same boring mediogre image again – running out of
> literary devices honeybuns?

I am not using literary devices baby. I am painting your image, as is,
with yor assistance. Ain't my fault you're static, but so the ego is.

> > Sorry baby. Unlike you, I am awake.
>
> No ya ain't – it shows in your limp washcloth prose.

Oh certainly I am–and you're not capable of judging who is awake,
my dearest. The only one posing here dearest, in front of the mirror,
unsuccessfully,is you.

> > Don't project your asleepness on me.
>
> Fuck your orders.

This is not an order baby. You have no rights to my being.
You have no right to touch me, murder me, enter my house,
attempt to hurt me, or do whatever you please.

Idiotic murderous sheep.

> > But do pray tell how waking up occured to yas.
>
> How much ya willing to pay for the info?

Nothing–your info is worthless, and so are you.

> Yawn.

You're an insufferable bore yes.

> Yawn.

As above.

> > But Im sure your vampiric little ego is going waa waa over the lack
> > of feeding material.
>
> Let me know when you wake up.

Unlike you my dearest, I am awake.

> > > > One does not address a monkey as a king.
> > >
> > > Don't be silly, No one here has called you king.
> >
> > I am not you;
>
> He says again and again to convince his uncertain self

I am not convincing anything or anybody–don't ascribe your idiotic
myopic internal projections onto my being. I was simply reminding you,
but unfortunately you're se self-obsessed and asleep you won't hear
your self dying.

> > you are the one pretending to be a king.
>
> He says unconvincingly.

There is no 'convincingness' or 'unconvincigness' to my words baby.
Only your internal projections.

Only a pathetic egotistical ape can come up with the idiocy that
words serve to 'convince'.

> > 'master of his fate'. Ha ha.
>
> Pissing against the wind again.

Sorry. I am not pissing, anywhere at all.
The only one pissing 'against the wind'–ie throwing his energy into
his own ego here is you.


> > > Naked.
> >
> > You are.
>
> I like it.

No doubt.

> > I will never be 'naked' and 'visible' to you,
>
> Thank god for that.

Chuckle.

> > no matter how much your idiotic penis wishes so.
>
> Another banality boner.

Nothing banal baby except your ego.

> > However; 'naked' you are: A vampiric idiotic
> > farmer's dick.
>
> Oh a snob who looks down on farmers.

I do not look down on farmers, nor am I a snob.
That you ascribe this to the above means only one thing–
that you are a snob who thinks farmers are lower.


> > Laughable. Go play that 'mirroring' trick elsewhere baby.
> > It only works on people with egos–like yourssssssself.
>
> Pity that you are completely impoetent to hurt my ego.

I have no intention of hurting your ego baby.
Dealing with your ego is your OWN job.
Potency is not about 'hurting egos'.

> I love my invincibility from posturing poseurs like you.

You love your ego dear, and it's killing you, that's all.
The only posturing poseur here is you.

You're not 'invincible'– you're a coward trapped inside his ego.

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