The universe has a flat geometry science says

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Man I wish. That dude almost broke my back.

What back? You're spineless.

But then again like most current human beings you fancy the mentioning
of 'warrior' as an identification with your lower animal impulses
to murder. A warrior is not a butcher, although there are plenty of
butchers who pose around as such.

Now as for wars:

The human being was created as a 'warrior' so that it masters itself
and its lower nature in awareness of its environment. When you fail
to do that, and you fail to teach this properly, you will have idiotic
mischanelling of energies which will result in wars, yes. Yes,
and humans do mischannel those energies in daily interaction,
and damage each other. No, you can't 'escape' it by pretending
it's not there or buying yourself a pacifict ideology.

But you prefer to build these holy-saint-savior icons for yourselves
and righteously proceed to destroy. Changing the world.
Making it a better place. Here the dog, and here the dog peeing.

And by the way, Max–disrespecting your 'perceived' enemy
and condescension towards said, is little but disrespect for yourself
and condescension towards yourself.

It's even worse that you appropriate a 'master' pose dealing with others
when you don't even the guts to face yourself–but then that's your
typical white (american, canadian, east or west european) pose
these days. Humanity–the masters. You will 'change' the world.
I can't imagine it ever occurs to you that 'the world' is not you,
and will smack you much harder than you can imagine. But you
will continue to look for scapegoats among humans, instead of
assuming self-responsibility, because it's always someone else's
fault.

The rich, the poor. The East, the West. Males. Females. THEM.
Non-slovenians. English speakers. The real dunces. People whom
you've never met (and I don't mean that speaking via e-mail is not
enough). The ones who 'don't listen' because they don't
follow your crap–because the exhibited motivation to 'listen'
is not to listen impartially and without prejudice to everything,
but to listen to the language noise inside your heads continuously.
And your pathetic posing of communication–which is little but
using language to manipulate and control others–and I mean that
in far more general terms–and to attempt to beat the NOISE
inside your head into the inside of somebody else's head–hence you love
'discussions'–a language war draped over with a nice, pretty
pacifist banner of 'intellectualism' or 'art' 'science' or 'civility'
and is little more than an invitation to bend over and swallow your
propaganda with a smile–NO THANKS.

Your pathetic please for listening are not in order to
see huams learn to LISTEN, but in order to have them
listen TO YOU–ie, hunting for their attention.

Nevermind that inside you're vacant and empty and you
have very little to say, and due to excessive obsession
with verbiage in this culture and disindetification with
your bodies, instead of having proper bodily functions,
you channel the most incogruous IMBECILITIES in verbal
form–par example, psychosis, stress, diseases,
and you dump them on each other haplessly. Pathetic
verbal masturbation with no end and no satisfaction.

Nevermind a complete LACK of familiarity the functionality of
words and language, a general distinction between oral and written
words, and among other things that words act as emotional carriers, and
99% of the time you're not saying anything, but simply shooting
emotional 'arrows' at the person you speak to. It's revolting.

You're not communicating because you have nothing to communicate.

The only thing you do is shuffle cardboard 'symbols' and
lexical symbols around with your brains in 'clever' 'witty'
and 'innovative' ways. But the brain is simply a tool,
and there's nobody inside the house USING the tool.

You hunt each other like fucking animals, abusing each other,
'fucking with each other's heads (and that includes the
psychopathy passed on as education in general)', abusing
each other emotionally, and pushing every button you can
(im just figuring out what makes ya tick man) and attempt to
pass this murderous behavior as 'witty' 'clever' or 'ironic'.

But if I mention the word warrior or Iaido–lo! I_ am the
one who is the problem, ne? Pathetic and revolting.

But how many of you know what a warrior is, besides
the crap that's fed in your head by propaganda
that 'warriors are butchers' and murderers
by a bunch of incredulous power hungry apes?

Don't you dare work on yourselves, that'd be
unpacifist. And when the 'revolution' comes,
your attention will be hunted and hooked again,
and you will be turned into murderous automatons
just like you have been so many times through
history. Nevermind that the 'revolution' is
ongoing.


Rallying under any_ flags has always been an invitation
for murder, and all revolutions are little but popularly
sanctioned bloodshed, murder, and butchery.

And it'll always and forever be 'someone else's fault'.

Wake up babies.

The only enemy is the one who looks out at you from the mirror.

And when you talk to mailing lists, this is who you're talking to
in most cases, most of the time.

You have no access to the 'outside' hence you can't 'communicate'.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

YESSS…You are definitely The Genius.Your words are medicine for all
poor&rich,for black&white.Oh,yes Max continue.Do that for humanity.
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Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: The universe has a flat geometry science says


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Man I wish. That dude almost broke my back.
>
> What back? You're spineless.
>
> But then again like most current human beings you fancy the mentioning
> of 'warrior' as an identification with your lower animal impulses
> to murder. A warrior is not a butcher, although there are plenty of
> butchers who pose around as such.
>
> Now as for wars:
>
> The human being was created as a 'warrior' so that it masters itself
> and its lower nature in awareness of its environment. When you fail
> to do that, and you fail to teach this properly, you will have idiotic
> mischanelling of energies which will result in wars, yes. Yes,
> and humans do mischannel those energies in daily interaction,
> and damage each other. No, you can't 'escape' it by pretending
> it's not there or buying yourself a pacifict ideology.
>
> But you prefer to build these holy-saint-savior icons for yourselves
> and righteously proceed to destroy. Changing the world.
> Making it a better place. Here the dog, and here the dog peeing.
>
> And by the way, Max–disrespecting your 'perceived' enemy
> and condescension towards said, is little but disrespect for yourself
> and condescension towards yourself.
>
> It's even worse that you appropriate a 'master' pose dealing with others
> when you don't even the guts to face yourself–but then that's your
> typical white (american, canadian, east or west european) pose
> these days. Humanity–the masters. You will 'change' the world.
> I can't imagine it ever occurs to you that 'the world' is not you,
> and will smack you much harder than you can imagine. But you
> will continue to look for scapegoats among humans, instead of
> assuming self-responsibility, because it's always someone else's
> fault.
>
> The rich, the poor. The East, the West. Males. Females. THEM.
> Non-slovenians. English speakers. The real dunces. People whom
> you've never met (and I don't mean that speaking via e-mail is not
> enough). The ones who 'don't listen' because they don't
> follow your crap–because the exhibited motivation to 'listen'
> is not to listen impartially and without prejudice to everything,
> but to listen to the language noise inside your heads continuously.
> And your pathetic posing of communication–which is little but
> using language to manipulate and control others–and I mean that
> in far more general terms–and to attempt to beat the NOISE
> inside your head into the inside of somebody else's head–hence you love
> 'discussions'–a language war draped over with a nice, pretty
> pacifist banner of 'intellectualism' or 'art' 'science' or 'civility'
> and is little more than an invitation to bend over and swallow your
> propaganda with a smile–NO THANKS.
>
> Your pathetic please for listening are not in order to
> see huams learn to LISTEN, but in order to have them
> listen TO YOU–ie, hunting for their attention.
>
> Nevermind that inside you're vacant and empty and you
> have very little to say, and due to excessive obsession
> with verbiage in this culture and disindetification with
> your bodies, instead of having proper bodily functions,
> you channel the most incogruous IMBECILITIES in verbal
> form–par example, psychosis, stress, diseases,
> and you dump them on each other haplessly. Pathetic
> verbal masturbation with no end and no satisfaction.
>
> Nevermind a complete LACK of familiarity the functionality of
> words and language, a general distinction between oral and written
> words, and among other things that words act as emotional carriers, and
> 99% of the time you're not saying anything, but simply shooting
> emotional 'arrows' at the person you speak to. It's revolting.
>
> You're not communicating because you have nothing to communicate.
>
> The only thing you do is shuffle cardboard 'symbols' and
> lexical symbols around with your brains in 'clever' 'witty'
> and 'innovative' ways. But the brain is simply a tool,
> and there's nobody inside the house USING the tool.
>
> You hunt each other like fucking animals, abusing each other,
> 'fucking with each other's heads (and that includes the
> psychopathy passed on as education in general)', abusing
> each other emotionally, and pushing every button you can
> (im just figuring out what makes ya tick man) and attempt to
> pass this murderous behavior as 'witty' 'clever' or 'ironic'.
>
> But if I mention the word warrior or Iaido–lo! I_ am the
> one who is the problem, ne? Pathetic and revolting.
>
> But how many of you know what a warrior is, besides
> the crap that's fed in your head by propaganda
> that 'warriors are butchers' and murderers
> by a bunch of incredulous power hungry apes?
>
> Don't you dare work on yourselves, that'd be
> unpacifist. And when the 'revolution' comes,
> your attention will be hunted and hooked again,
> and you will be turned into murderous automatons
> just like you have been so many times through
> history. Nevermind that the 'revolution' is
> ongoing.
>
>
> Rallying under any_ flags has always been an invitation
> for murder, and all revolutions are little but popularly
> sanctioned bloodshed, murder, and butchery.
>
> And it'll always and forever be 'someone else's fault'.
>
> Wake up babies.
>
> The only enemy is the one who looks out at you from the mirror.
>
> And when you talk to mailing lists, this is who you're talking to
> in most cases, most of the time.
>
> You have no access to the 'outside' hence you can't 'communicate'.
>
>
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>
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On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> YESSS…You are definitely The Genius.

Idiotic derogatory comment. What does 'genius' have to do with
anything written?


> Your words are medicine for all poor&rich,for black&white.

I am not here to give 'medicine' baby. take that cardboard out
of your head.

> Oh,yes Max continue.

I am not Max.

> Do that for humanity.

Nor do I do things 'for humanity'.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42