asheville

Hi Curt,

Thanks for send us your place on Earth. It is wonderful to know other
places and cultures for me. I do not know if you have realized that I am
sending a small report of my city / Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Earth to Rhizome
list too.

I am doing this because I have studied Anthropology / Ethnography of Art. So
that my interest in cultures and cities > my city. The city is the place
of the movement, the place where we come and go. The modern city
is each day more the place of comunication, alliances, changes, and
reciprocity. It is a space of Art. However, the ethnographical narrative
is just like life, it is never perfect. The question is to try to do the
best. Theories come and theories go. Under this point of view, some
critical have been being done about anthropological narrative. Clifford
(CLIFFORD, James. Of l'ethnographie with fiction. Etudes Rural)
interrogates, for example, the existing difference between Malinowski who
wrote "Western Pacific's Argonautas " and Malinowski of the "Journal d'
Ethnographe". I am trying to do a "true" narrative and because of this I am
using lots of images - the majority of them photos of the "Naked City
Queem"* (until now)- although I know that photos can lie, specially digital
photos…but I am passioned by digital photography and my English is bad and
I think is important to show my city and my country and my culture to people
of other countries, just like you have thought.

I think Brazil and Rio de Janeiro are seen as an exotic country / city by
foreigners and it is not true. We have a very interesting culture, mix of
black, white and indian culture. My intention while doing a work about my
city is to show the reality and diversity of a small part of it. It is
impossible to work with all Rio de Janeiro, it is one of the
largest cities of the world. (By the way, do you know that until now I am
only walking by Ipanema and Rodrigo de Freitas Lagoon, which has a portion
in Ipanema ? ). I would like to show with Art that we have a perhaps
"exotic" culture but that we are very civilized people and that Brazil is
not only the land of carnival and football. You will realize that in the
next reports.

*Caetano Veloso sings that the King is much more beautiful naked, the modern
anthropology / etnography of Art thinks like him. It is the aim of my
narrative - I try to show the truth, although I know that it is really
impossible, perhaps if the narrative has more than one voice, but this one
is only my voice and my VIEW! I think that the traditional Internet links of
my city have not the view of the Artist and the Ethnograph, but at the end
of this report I will include some of this links.

Yours,

Regina




—– Original Message —–
From: "Curt Cloninger" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:10 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: asheville


> I just want to say to all y'all in the worldwide internet art
> community that I live around Asheville, North Carolina, US, Earth.
>
> Asheville
> http://www.blackmountaincollege.org/bmcref/bmc.html
>
> Asheville
> http://www.mmas.unca.edu
>
> Asheville
> http://www.themap.org
>
> Asheville
> http://www.thecove.org
>
> Asheville
> http://www.pisgahinn.com/views.asp?counterStart=1
>
> Asheville
> http://www.nps.gov/grsm/
>
> Asheville
> http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/pan/6a08000/6a08100/6a08181r.jpg
>
> Asheville
> http://www.azlyrics.us/printable.php?idd205
> http://deepyoung.org/east_asheville_hardware.mp3
>
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Hi Regina,

I'm finishing up a piece now about places that all mean something to me personally. The piece uses collage, photography, and autogenerative code to try and represent the pieces more as I sense them and less denotatively/journalistically.

I'll post the link when it's done.

"I really enjoy forgetting. When I first come to a place, I notice all the little details. I notice the way the sky looks. The color of white paper. The way people walk. Doorknobs. Everything! Then I get used to the place and I don't notice those things anymore. So only by forgetting can I see the place again as it really is."
- david byrne, 1986

peace,
curt

PS. Here is a silly (but gorgeously executed) brazil piece by mk12, describing a stereotypical view: http://media.mk12.com/quicktime45_html/machobox.html [11.3 MB]

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Regina Celia Pinto wrote:

> Hi Curt,
>
> Thanks for send us your place on Earth. It is wonderful to know other
> places and cultures for me. I do not know if you have realized that I
> am
> sending a small report of my city / Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Earth to
> Rhizome
> list too.
>
> I am doing this because I have studied Anthropology / Ethnography of
> Art. So
> that my interest in cultures and cities > my city. The city is the
> place
> of the movement, the place where we come and go. The modern city
> is each day more the place of comunication, alliances, changes, and
> reciprocity. It is a space of Art. However, the ethnographical
> narrative
> is just like life, it is never perfect. The question is to try to do
> the
> best. Theories come and theories go. Under this point of view, some
> critical have been being done about anthropological narrative.
> Clifford
> (CLIFFORD, James. Of l'ethnographie with fiction. Etudes Rural)
> interrogates, for example, the existing difference between Malinowski
> who
> wrote "Western Pacific's Argonautas " and Malinowski of the "Journal
> d'
> Ethnographe". I am trying to do a "true" narrative and because of
> this I am
> using lots of images - the majority of them photos of the "Naked City
> Queem"* (until now)- although I know that photos can lie, specially
> digital
> photos…but I am passioned by digital photography and my English is
> bad and
> I think is important to show my city and my country and my culture to
> people
> of other countries, just like you have thought.
>
> I think Brazil and Rio de Janeiro are seen as an exotic country / city
> by
> foreigners and it is not true. We have a very interesting culture, mix
> of
> black, white and indian culture. My intention while doing a work about
> my
> city is to show the reality and diversity of a small part of it. It is
> impossible to work with all Rio de Janeiro, it is one of the
> largest cities of the world. (By the way, do you know that until now I
> am
> only walking by Ipanema and Rodrigo de Freitas Lagoon, which has a
> portion
> in Ipanema ? ). I would like to show with Art that we have a perhaps
> "exotic" culture but that we are very civilized people and that Brazil
> is
> not only the land of carnival and football. You will realize that in
> the
> next reports.
>
> *Caetano Veloso sings that the King is much more beautiful naked, the
> modern
> anthropology / etnography of Art thinks like him. It is the aim of my
> narrative - I try to show the truth, although I know that it is really
> impossible, perhaps if the narrative has more than one voice, but this
> one
> is only my voice and my VIEW! I think that the traditional Internet
> links of
> my city have not the view of the Artist and the Ethnograph, but at the
> end
> of this report I will include some of this links.
>
> Yours,
>
> Regina

Hi Curt,

I am looking forward to your new work/link.

Do you know Italo Calvino and Clifford Geertz?

The first one wrote the most beautiful and poetic book about cities I know.
"The Invisible Cities".

Invisible Cities.
In a garden sit the aged Kublai Khan and the young Marco Polo – Tartar
emperor and Venetian traveler. The mood is sunset. Prospero is holding up
for the last time his magic wand: Kublai Khan has sensed the end of his
empire, of his cities, of himself.
"Marco Polo, however, diverts the emperor with tales of cities that he has
seen within the empire and Kublai Khan listens, searches for a pattern in
Marco Polo's Cities and memory, Cities and desire, Cities and signs, Thin
Cities, Trading Cities, Cities and eyes, Cities and names, Cities and the
dead, Cities and the sky, Continuous Cities, hidden Cities. The emperor soon
determines that each of these fantastic places is really the same place…

To know more: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/7504/cities.html

Cliiford Geertz is a very important author. "In The Interpretation of
Cultures, Clifford Geertz explains "what doing ethnography is", as a step
towards grasping what anthropological analysis amounts to as a form of
knowledge. Anthropological analysis, he says is not a matter of methods
entirely, although these are important, but rather a definition of the kind
of intellectual effort it entails (1975). Borrowing from Gilbert Ryle's
notion of "thick description" to explain what he means, he says… "Using an
'I-am-a-camera', phenomenalistic observation of a cultural enterprise or
setting alone will not work. Geertz observes that even the most elemental
sort of inquiry is "extraordinarily thick" by which he means dependent upon
interpretation."

I am following these two authors to do my report "Rio de Janeiro Summer
Festival 2004". I am trying to show things in my city that are always
hidden, the invisible city, the deleted categories… I believe that
showing all kind of elements of my culture I will offer a not stereotypical
city to the reader of my visual text.

Warmest regards,

Regina

—– Original Message —–
From: "curt cloninger" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:33 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Re: asheville


> Hi Regina,
>
> I'm finishing up a piece now about places that all mean something to me
personally. The piece uses collage, photography, and autogenerative code to
try and represent the pieces more as I sense them and less
denotatively/journalistically.
>
> I'll post the link when it's done.
>
> "I really enjoy forgetting. When I first come to a place, I notice all the
little details. I notice the way the sky looks. The color of white paper.
The way people walk. Doorknobs. Everything! Then I get used to the place and
I don't notice those things anymore. So only by forgetting can I see the
place again as it really is."
> - david byrne, 1986
>
> peace,
> curt
>
> PS. Here is a silly (but gorgeously executed) brazil piece by mk12,
describing a stereotypical view:
http://media.mk12.com/quicktime45_html/machobox.html [11.3 MB]
>
> _
> _
>
> Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
>
> > Hi Curt,
> >
> > Thanks for send us your place on Earth. It is wonderful to know other
> > places and cultures for me. I do not know if you have realized that I
> > am
> > sending a small report of my city / Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Earth to
> > Rhizome
> > list too.
> >
> > I am doing this because I have studied Anthropology / Ethnography of
> > Art. So
> > that my interest in cultures and cities > my city. The city is the
> > place
> > of the movement, the place where we come and go. The modern city
> > is each day more the place of comunication, alliances, changes, and
> > reciprocity. It is a space of Art. However, the ethnographical
> > narrative
> > is just like life, it is never perfect. The question is to try to do
> > the
> > best. Theories come and theories go. Under this point of view, some
> > critical have been being done about anthropological narrative.
> > Clifford
> > (CLIFFORD, James. Of l'ethnographie with fiction. Etudes Rural)
> > interrogates, for example, the existing difference between Malinowski
> > who
> > wrote "Western Pacific's Argonautas " and Malinowski of the "Journal
> > d'
> > Ethnographe". I am trying to do a "true" narrative and because of
> > this I am
> > using lots of images - the majority of them photos of the "Naked City
> > Queem"* (until now)- although I know that photos can lie, specially
> > digital
> > photos…but I am passioned by digital photography and my English is
> > bad and
> > I think is important to show my city and my country and my culture to
> > people
> > of other countries, just like you have thought.
> >
> > I think Brazil and Rio de Janeiro are seen as an exotic country / city
> > by
> > foreigners and it is not true. We have a very interesting culture, mix
> > of
> > black, white and indian culture. My intention while doing a work about
> > my
> > city is to show the reality and diversity of a small part of it. It is
> > impossible to work with all Rio de Janeiro, it is one of the
> > largest cities of the world. (By the way, do you know that until now I
> > am
> > only walking by Ipanema and Rodrigo de Freitas Lagoon, which has a
> > portion
> > in Ipanema ? ). I would like to show with Art that we have a perhaps
> > "exotic" culture but that we are very civilized people and that Brazil
> > is
> > not only the land of carnival and football. You will realize that in
> > the
> > next reports.
> >
> > *Caetano Veloso sings that the King is much more beautiful naked, the
> > modern
> > anthropology / etnography of Art thinks like him. It is the aim of my
> > narrative - I try to show the truth, although I know that it is really
> > impossible, perhaps if the narrative has more than one voice, but this
> > one
> > is only my voice and my VIEW! I think that the traditional Internet
> > links of
> > my city have not the view of the Artist and the Ethnograph, but at the
> > end
> > of this report I will include some of this links.
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Regina
> +
> -> post: [email protected]
> -> questions: [email protected]
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>