Re: Re: Your art

Hi Nel
I feel that was stated very well and I agree.

How about water?
less than half a percent of the worlds water is pure.
Here we go back to the "purity" issue.

On a minor level just start encouraging artists to make beautiful art. Art
not only engaging the mind but also the spirit and emotions.
Positive Energy

The war is out of our hands…
Someday there will be no oil left and they are going to be fighting over
water. So lets prepare now so we are ready 50 years from now.

I just want to make art. Its fun and makes me happy.
Cheers
Lee
on 9/30/02 10:51 PM, Nel Ivancich at [email protected] wrote:

>> I appreciate your intentions to use your art as a means of expressing your
>> message. However, please don't place all citizens of Western society in the
>> stifling context of their computer screens. Many of us look beyond the glib
>> symbols of a hi-tech, high profit society and see the horrors created by
>> those who write this fiction for their own profit and at the expense of
>> innocents. My wish is that citizens from all regions of the globe will, as a
>> result of witnessing, again, the extreme divisions "created" by our hawkish
>> leaders, find our communal path to a more just and reflective world
>> objective.
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Nel Ivancich wrote:

> However, please don't place all citizens of Western society

Citizens of Western society?!

> in the stifling context of

Citizens of Western Society?!

> Many of us look beyond the glib symbols of a hi-tech, high profit
> society

No, you don't.

> and see the horrors created by those who write this fiction for
> their own profit and at the expense of innocents.

You see nothing of the sort; you've been trained to react like this.

> My wish is that citizens from all regions of the globe will,

How sweet. Where is my war-period slogan collection.

> as a result of witnessing, again, the extreme divisions "created" by our
> hawkish leaders,

What a bunch of completely idiotic, fraudulent, and meaningless
schlock. It's nice to have those 'hawkish leaders' to blame
isn't it?! Then you will kill your own 'inner hawk,' victimize
yourself, and anyone who dares to develop as an individual
independent being, continuously refuse self-responsibility
and live out your life as a mesmerized, baa-baa. Waa, those
'hawkish' leaders hooked my attention again! Snif.

> find our communal path

There is no such thing as 'communal path'.

> to a more just


Just?!!! The World my dearest is perfectly JUST.
That humans want to 'fuck around' and pretend that it's
the 'world's fault'–ie, complete abrogation of self-responsibility–
is sheerly idiotic. Secondly, human behavior and human society
is not the WORLD + you will never have a 'just' human
society along the self-irresponsible, communal baa-path.

all that art
you know
all that art
you never made
that shaped you
you made all of it important
there is no art
that you don't create
except as in a newspaper
or a history book.
those revelations
they're yours
you earned them.
yet we dream for each other.

ja

lee wells wrote:

> Hi Nel
> I feel that was stated very well and I agree.
>
> How about water?
> less than half a percent of the worlds water is pure.
> Here we go back to the "purity" issue.
>
> On a minor level just start encouraging artists to make beautiful art.
> Art
> not only engaging the mind but also the spirit and emotions.
> Positive Energy
>
> The war is out of our hands…
> Someday there will be no oil left and they are going to be fighting
> over
> water. So lets prepare now so we are ready 50 years from now.
>
> I just want to make art. Its fun and makes me happy.
> Cheers
> Lee
> on 9/30/02 10:51 PM, Nel Ivancich at [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> I appreciate your intentions to use your art as a means of
> expressing your
> >> message. However, please don't place all citizens of Western
> society in the
> >> stifling context of their computer screens. Many of us look beyond
> the glib
> >> symbols of a hi-tech, high profit society and see the horrors
> created by
> >> those who write this fiction for their own profit and at the
> expense of
> >> innocents. My wish is that citizens from all regions of the globe
> will, as a
> >> result of witnessing, again, the extreme divisions "created" by our
> hawkish
> >> leaders, find our communal path to a more just and reflective world
> >> objective.
> > + the more you read the less you code
> > -> post: [email protected]
> > -> questions: [email protected]
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> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
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> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
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and one of my favorites…

It is now no longer a question of accumulating scientific truths and discoveries. We need above everything to spread the truths already mastered by science, to make them part of our daily life, to render them common property. We have to order things so that all, so that the mass of mankind, may be capable of understanding and applying them; we have to make science no longer a luxury but the foundation of every man's life. This is what justice demands. kropoktin