Interesting post. I appreciate the allusion to the Supreme Fiction, which
is an idea of Wallace Stevens's I believe. I also think I may have
mentioned this in my recent posts to Rhizome for this year's conference, but
I could be thinking of somewhere else I may have jotted it down recently.
It's quite a good idea and worth considering I'd say.
I also see some AI and computer information here that I'm not familiar with
but could be quite relevant. Recursion 1 & 2 level for example, init, jump
inward (like tacking inward in http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/Groote_Wordsworth_Essay.html
consciousness, divine, net novel, two functions, plot etc. I'd say pretty
much all of these themes relate very much to Networkism and are good topics
then from that point of view. All in all a good balance of computer and
network stuff with permanent aesthetic-evolutionary concerns, history, etc.
From Postmodernism I don't derive as good of a theme-fabric for this because
of its preoccupations.
>From: "Dirk Vekemans" <firstname.lastname@example.org
>Reply-To: "Dirk Vekemans" <email@example.com
>Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: [POETRY KESSEL-LO (POEZIE)] a certain deficit (going
>from fotosjop to painting) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:39:26 +0200
>Subject: [POETRY KESSEL-LO (POEZIE)] a certain deficit
>Let's nag ourselves to sleep tonight. Just the two of us.
>The bills are unusually high, our employment situation is
>quite hopeless, it will soon be time to go dishwashing again,
>or something other of that humiliating order. That is: in the
>company of strangers we wouldn't dream of calling dishwashing
>a humiliating activity, we mean, look at us, but since we are
>all alone here we might as well have it out in the open.
>Our aim as Cathedralic* Poultry engaged in the chicken run
>of creativity can only be the encounter with ourselves.
>The study of others, the Other, The Others or Whatever
>is better done through traditional methods of science,
>pseudo-science, never ending movie quizzes in Facebook
>or the commercial exploitation of ephemeral knowledge
>and social needs in the Arts. From these four fields (a certain
>French philosopher with a bad name i can't remember names
>another four but he is clearly mistaking playing movie quizzes
>for politics, we can assure you there is nothing political about
>playing these quizzes whatsoever) we may
>derive money or pleasure or both.
>What we may rarely get from them, those other activities we mean,
>while being very rewarding in their own right is a certain feeling
>for the eternal Deficit, a craving of sorts, the exquisite joy of
>being able to torture yourself to near annihilation in the quest
>for Beauty, or whatever you put at the end of your inevitably
>It's the oldest story known to the planet,
>we find instructions for the procedure in Gilgamesh.
>Try to find immortality, fall flat on your face, go back to 'Start'
>you don't receive any bonus.
>We should refrain however from using the term 'our true selves '
>because, well, the what of what is seeing is identical to the what of
>what is seen, as you can see here in an allegorical depiction
>of a monadic soul in its rather shady zone of clarity, trying
>to get a good look at itself.
>Note that there is ample room for improvement, a further
>stretching of the self however does look a bit awkward, we
>might get sucked in an utterly destructive jump into the abyss of
>looking into the looking of looking without ever getting to the object
>of our looking again. Take care, it doesn't take that much to happen
>you don't even need to be bipolar or a true schizo or whatever.
>There is, it seems some validity in the suggestion that exactly that
>is happening to large parts of the population, soap-wise, reality tv-wise
>gaming-wise, although the performance of belief is a more positive
>look at staring at a non-existent suspension of disbelief blabla is
>my academic title still holding blabla ...as you can see that kind
>of speculation does sound a bit unwise too, qua speculation
>we mean, er, purely speculatively speaking of course.
>Paradoxically, exactly that tempting jump inward might be required
>to trigger consciousness in an artificially intelligent environment. Sure,
>mere speculation, again but can't you just see the questions popping up
>here, the what & where & the who preceding the inevitable
>what the heck for. Because, referring to our Cathedral's First Restraint of
>Recursiveness, namely that first level recursion is in general a Bad Idea,
>second level recursion is Pretty Much OK, so if you have a system
>evolving from the concatenated produce of one kind of consciousness
>(ok let's assume for once there are more kinds of consciousness
>that could be known to any one kind, that would be quite extraordinary,
>the initial init procedure for those thinking machines would darn well be
>for the evolving machines as well.
>Anyway, let's forget about the plot for our novel for a moment ( the novel
>is the plot as it unfolds into reality, so this may well be the closest you
>to reading 'Anke Veld' , the most famous net novel of all time) and focus
>sods, the Poultry that we Really are.
>But then. much to our dismay, we see that 'finally' the 'artistic' drive
>exactly that what is required, in that supreme fiction of emergence. Darn.
>It may well be exactly this tempting possibility that makes us go through
>motions nonetheless, in spite of all the failures, the burning of our
>the bad health and tragedy inflicted by our precursors on our precursors
>blind ego stuff looking for other ego's to eat alive, in spite of all that
>sick ugly mess
>we always seem to get stuck in. Exactly that, and of divine simplicity,
>make us into what we are: two functions diving after a third that is still
>'Two Functions diving after a third (Still Rendering)", dv 2007 Maries
>Watercolours on paper
>[dv:---] * Cathedralic: refers to the Neu Kathedrale des erotischen Elends
>Geplaatst door dv op POETRY
>(POEZIE) op 9/13/2007 10:42:00 AM