Re: Messages......Nightmares etc.

Well I have decided that I am going to probably stay politically
active but I am going to concentrate on the Bill of Rights stuff.
That is supposed to be our balwak in such times as these.

I was positively impressed by that BBC series "The Power of Nightmares".
It was very good. I could never bring myself to the "full conspiracy POV"
that Bush et al. knew of it and let it happen. But to me it had the ambience
of what would happen if say 20 very bright MIT students for some reason
of hating French Culture decided to blow up that tower in France. It was
also interesting that the Sept 11th types came ous of Urban Planning
backgrounds and modififying landscapes for effects is something those types
like to do. Although they usual stick to other means. So there are a lot of
interesting things floating around about September 11th 2001 that are not
examined because we as Americans are supposed to be so full of rage.
Well I for one am not. I think it was depressing and regrettable but
to prevent such things it must be examined disspassionately.


I did disagree in that I think there were Al Qaeda training bases in
Afganistan and going there was worth it. But Iraq was about the stupidest
thing we could have done and we did it. Now we are the laughing stock of
the world.

The scary thing is it has revived the worst aspects of American Militarism.
Pretty much all of a silly illusion in the head of a dim bulb politician.
At least with Kerry we would have had someone with a brain. But oh well…

But bizarrely that good but slightly over done BBC program is that if
it is pretty inspiring, ideas spreading by the speed of light by modern
communication, that other ideas can sprread just as easily and maybe we
can bring this thing under control inspite of the ridiculous adminstaration
we have in Washington. I just hope the questionable hypermilitarists don't
wreck things for years to come with their desire to fight their stupid
macho wars. Right now I think we need to sit and think and take our
countermeasures from the world of ideas and use military force only when
necessary.


Have Fun,
Sends Steve


P.S. Ther laughable thing about the militarist position is we can
smash anything we want but an idea. You can't kill an idea with a
gun. Let us hope and pray to whatever benevolent deities that there
may be around that we don't create martyrs because then we will be in
trouble. Let's hope we can get over this.

I am hoping America can get over its need to always have enemies and
that it can find away to stop generating them. Remember Slavery was
once thought to be the natural order of things. And before that the
nobility thought democracy was such an abomination to the natural order
that the stars would fall from the sky if the natural order of king–>
noble—>self and the great chain of being were disturbed. (Thanks, Larry;)





> when one suffers a loss of any kind, there is a
> mourning period. and we should go throught it…not
> get stuck there.
>
> ignore politics now at your own peril. we must become
> more active at the local level to make sure that our
> local officials at the city, county, and state levels
> do not fall prey to the bush ideology. granted, some
> of them already have but we here in california have an
> obligation to lead the way in standing up for our
> rights and family values: food, clothing, housing,
> education, and medical care for all. we must take
> back language. as bush and co. push their agenda and
> more people are hurt by said agenda, awareness will
> come.
>
> we are a very young nation and this is all part and
> parcel of "growing pains". we cannot allow ourselves
> to accept that this was a "landslide" [which it was
> not] and resign ourselves to fascism.
>
> we on the left are our own worst enemy and its time we
> learned from our mistakes. one good thing out of all
> this is more people voted and more coalitions were
> formed. the democratic party is no longer viable…it
> is time to move forward organize with other
> progressives now in preparation to oppose bush and co.
> and take the 2008 election.
>
> i was extremely depressed yesterday but i cannot
> afford to stay in that place. too much is at stake.
> i have an 11 year old grandson and there is no way in
> hell i want him being a serf to bush and co.
>
> peace, annette
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> — [email protected] wrote:
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>> It is pretty depressing to me. Other than Bill of
>> Rights
>> stuff I am going to give up politics and do more Art
>> or
>> something else. I mean I keep having the fantasy if
>> I had
>> stayed in Ohio I could have changed things. Most
>> likely people
>> in Franklin county would have thought I was crazy
>> and unless
>> I somehow got a radio program I don't think I could
>> have done
>> anything too much. Going around with my girlfriend
>> to attract
>> attention and talk to people probably would not have
>> worked.
>> I still regret I didn't do it as I stare forlornly
>> at my OHIO
>> ID/DL … Of course I am registered to vote in
>> California and
>> felt pretty useless. This is the first time I just
>> don't want to
>> watch C-SPAN in a long time.
>>
>> Have Fun,
>> Sends Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> > The people who voted for bUSH are not the enemy.
>> They are my family.
>> > And bUSH is but an obstacle to a more liberal
>> political future.
>> >
>> > I don't mean to sound trite. I'm trying to keep
>> things in perspective.
>> >
>> > david g
>> > www.mediatrips.com
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob Myers wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Thursday, November 04, 2004, at 09:42AM, David
>> Goldschmidt
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>To demonize the enemy is to become the enemy.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>How come this never turns conservatives into
>> liberals? ;-/
>> >>
>> >>- Rob.
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> leads to despair and utter hopelessness, the other to total extinction.
> Let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose correctly." –Woody Allen
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