MANIK, THE GREAT CAPITALIST

One of the problems here is that MANIK assumes we north amerians are all GW clones.Tell me MANIK, have you ever read Cesar Aira, Borges, Atwood or Ondaatje? Of course you haven't. You're immersed in your Euro-Centric model.
Ever watched City of God?
Of course not…, you live in a slimy eastern euro envelope.
Begone, we don't require this anymore.

Cesar
(for Eric)

MANIK'S LESS THAN DOG
MANIK,SEPTEMBER 2007.
—– Original Message —–
From: "Eric Dymond" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 4:08 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: MANIK, THE GREAT CAPITALIST


> In last "Rhizome Digest", thread- "Where is The Rhizome", MANIK was
> represent with two texts under this title(and few others tight conected
> with this thread but under different names). In 'Digest' MANIK couldn't
> find his name.
>
> You want the headlines, you and Paris, what a slut you are!
>
> This is proof and sad fact that MANIK was absolutely right considered
> Rhizome stuff racism.It's not the first time that this stuff wipe MANIK's
> name from Digest!
>
> Or sometimes shit happens, learn to live with it.
>
> Moreover this racism became institutional(economical) in Rhizome vs. MANIK
> case because previously editor Kevin McGarry order text from MANIK (about
> Chris Ashley.if you want you could see that essay in his blog, or in
> Rhizome database, and by the way Chris use parts of this essay in his
> lecture in New Museum-'About bloging',if we remember correctly).
>
> Delusions of grandeur aside, tell me more…
>
> Kevin own 100$ to MANIK for that essay and 40$ for two text in NAN.Instead
> 140$ Lauren Cornel pay to MANIK 40$ for two texts published in NAN! And
> she generous "(for) give"25$ for this year Rhizome membership to MANIK).So
> ins tead 140$ MANIK get 40$ in check, and 25 as "gift"! Where's 75$
> Rhizome own to MANIK?
>
>
> I have been cited, quoted, given wind to, and otherwise used without a
> cent coming my way. Are you a new eastern capitalist my dear Manik. I
> think you are!
>
> Is that your stile-steal money from membership?
> And after that wipe members name from documents? What should we aspect
> next Wipe MANIK's name from every database in Rhizome? Wipe even his
> cloned object?
>
> It's the money ain't it? c'mon you can tell me…
>
> How deep is Rhizome stuff rascizm?
>
> WHAT???? I can't use that word, it's not like fuckshitcuntassbastardbitch
> it sucks. It still has power.
> The fact that I'm reading this renders your argument useless.
>
> Is that just Rhizome stuff opinion and politics or they having support
> from membership? If members of Rhizome decided to throw MANIK from
> Raw!?.O.k.!We could accept this kind of 'democracy'. If not, we demand our
> name and texts on Digest.
> And, of course 75$!
>
> RUNNING CAPITALIST DOG!
>
>
> And resignation from Lauren Cornel and Marisa Olsen.
>
> Job security…, if only.
>
> MANIK
>
>
> Eric (rhymes with manik, now I'm ashamed)
>
> Send me your paypal account and I will be glad to increase your personal
> wealth, and give you a star on thew *WALK OF NEW MEDIA STARS* soon to be
> hosted by….
> http://www.slanderous.org
>
> simply marvellous!!! (i do enjoy your missives)
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> How deep is Rhizome stuff rascizm? (RSR)


RSR ist not deep as much, bekause rhizome s not too muchst deep
eitherst. i would likest to propose that rhistome STAFF should take 50
eurodollarst for publishing that rhizomest jobb offerst announcementst.


this ist 50 euro

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THE WHOLE WORLDS WORTH 50 EURO
http://myspace.com/spurmcguffin
http://myspace.com/jorgensparwasser

I think this is outrageous. How can we call ourselves artists, when the system apparently takes sums of money totaling over $100 from us? How can we even bother to create art which is electronic without payment via the electronic mediums? If we make electrons we should therefore be paid in electrons by each and every pipe in the fucking network. I think a call should be made, in advance, to the head of all these sites to help us understand what money is supposed to be received by artists and which money goes to places like online zoos, and bathroom supply stores? I proposed a new rhizome method which forces a payment for each and every piece of text written by an artist who is a member. Each line of text is worth, what, $10 dollars or 10 euro? Or J$10 jesusbucks? Which should it be? Otherwise, all electronic means of communication, sexual or otherwise, should be completely shut down and closed for business until such funds are placed back inside the congolian-swiss account.
-Steven Read

Once again Steve you and your inner child show a complete and utter misunderstanding of the issue ( and we have the pictures http://www.slanderous.org) .
100 dollars you say, flabbergodwob, you haven't seen a hundred dollar bill in years. I propose that the money that MANIK is entitled to go to the slanderous war chest. With this money we could afford an Oracle database, none of those goofy Mysql joins.
I could personally take a long needed vacation, maybe visit Utah, or Colorado!
My Paypal number is 4438892, and I know you can afford, you spoilt piece of meat.
Going by the quality of your text,you and Manik deserve to be paid in drachmas, try cashing that in on your ebay purchases of cheap Barbie Memorabilia.
Rhizome is fine without all this talk of money. If Rhizome doesn't need cash, then neither do you.
You make me want to pull my small intestine out of my naval.
Joe Edit
FLAME ON!
—– Original Message —–
From: "Steve OR Steven Read" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:07:25 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: MANIK, THE GREAT CAPITALIST

I think this is outrageous. How can we call ourselves artists, when the system apparently takes sums of money totaling over $100 from us? How can we even bother to create art which is electronic without payment via the electronic mediums? If we make electrons we should therefore be paid in electrons by each and every pipe in the fucking network. I think a call should be made, in advance, to the head of all these sites to help us understand what money is supposed to be received by artists and which money goes to places like online zoos, and bathroom supply stores? I proposed a new rhizome method which forces a payment for each and every piece of text written by an artist who is a member. Each line of text is worth, what, $10 dollars or 10 euro? Or J$10 jesusbucks? Which should it be? Otherwise, all electronic means of communication, sexual or otherwise, should be completely shut down and closed for business until such funds are placed back inside the congolian-swiss account.
-Steven Read
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Dude, fuck you! I had a hundred just last week. How dare you. How FREAKIN daaaaaaaarrrrreyou. Manik and yourself, in paypal union, I see how it all works now, I know how y'all are. SCAM ARTISTS. Conn men. Confidence gamers of the most disgusting kind. You pretend to make art, you pretend you didn't get full payment, then you try to sue the Massachusetts Art Museums. You blow your organs, you cry about capitalists. Well that is the last time. How dare you waste the Rhizomers time with your belief systems and ambitious declarations and outpouring of socials dogma?!?!:::::) Jesus himself knew better! I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK? Well, you know what I mean, one minute you say that there are no more good arguments on Rhizome, the next you ACCuse rhizome of stealing your art. You use the zeros and ones in your favor, you scratch in the dirt your logical reformations, you try to begin the next flavor, but NOOOOOOO, you are wrong this time. You will pay. You will pay like OJ and his sports thievery. May you be cuffed by Texas Hold'em patriots in black face paint. Get off rhizome, and take your cries back to Canada where you can buy your drugs for cheap you slanderous puff mommy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steven Read the 16th.

STEVE ORR STEVEN, YOU ARE — YOU ARE A FUCKING WORM! WHAT DU YOU MEAN,
MISTER MANIK-POTATO-HEAD?



Am 17.09.2007 um 19:38 schrieb Steve OR Steven Read:

Dude, fuck you! I had a hundred just last week. How dare you. How
FREAKIN daaaaaaaarrrrreyou. Manik and yourself, in paypal union, I see
how it all works now, I know how y'all are. SCAM ARTISTS. Conn men.
Confidence gamers of the most disgusting kind. You pretend to make art,
you pretend you didn't get full payment, then you try to sue the
Massachusetts Art Museums. You blow your organs, you cry about
capitalists. Well that is the last time. How dare you waste the
Rhizomers time with your belief systems and ambitious declarations and
outpouring of socials dogma?!?!:::::) Jesus himself knew better! I MEAN
WHAT THE FUCK? Well, you know what I mean, one minute you say that
there are no more good arguments on Rhizome, the next you ACCuse
rhizome of stealing your art. You use the zeros and ones in your favor,
you scratch in the dirt your logical reformations, you try to begin the
next flavor, but NOOOOOOO, you are wrong this time. You will pay. You
will pay like OJ and his sports!
thievery. May you be cuffed by Texas Hold'em patriots in black face
paint. Get off rhizome, and take your cries back to Canada where you
can buy your drugs for cheap you slanderous puff
mommy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steven Read the 16th.
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What is the meaning of this outpouring of critical analysis? I am worm. Worm art, that is. Wormalicious. Jurevicius. I propose a new way of art making that involves at least 90% worms. If you can't understand such a simple manifesto, then you need to go back to art school. ManiK is not here to help you now. Dymond is not here either, he will not give you 50 more euro just so you have 100. After all, you need 100 AMERICAN OR RHIZOME BUCKS to equal one half of your similar 100 european bills. That mystery man in Congo cannot help you now, he suckered you, purchased potatoes, worms ate the potatoes, and now you cry to me for praise? Unreal. The mystery unravels. The casinos close their doors. Rhizome controls the internet. New York City controls the internet. Give up art making now (unless you use the worms of course).

Joe J. (American football wide receiver and team captain for the Cleveland Browns)

You know, when my brothers and I used to talk like this, our dad would smash
our heads together to shut up.

Vijay

On 19/09/2007, Steve OR Steven Read <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What is the meaning of this outpouring of critical analysis? I am worm.
> Worm art, that is. Wormalicious. Jurevicius. I propose a new way of art
> making that involves at least 90% worms. If you can't understand such a
> simple manifesto, then you need to go back to art school. ManiK is not here
> to help you now. Dymond is not here either, he will not give you 50 more
> euro just so you have 100. After all, you need 100 AMERICAN OR RHIZOME BUCKS
> to equal one half of your similar 100 european bills. That mystery man in
> Congo cannot help you now, he suckered you, purchased potatoes, worms ate
> the potatoes, and now you cry to me for praise? Unreal. The mystery
> unravels. The casinos close their doors. Rhizome controls the internet. New
> York City controls the internet. Give up art making now (unless you use the
> worms of course).
>
> Joe J. (American football wide receiver and team captain for the Cleveland
> Browns)
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OK Read|Steve|Steve Read| it's apparent your doctors orders are being ignored.
If you're going to go off the olanzapine then we can't expect a great deal from you.
After the child, after the toaster affair, after the yeti encounter it's obvious you're at a breaking point. Halucinating hundred dollar bills when in fact they're just 5 dinar notes given too you by your expatriate goat.
Which brings me to a new rule: don't make out with the livestock (ever).
For gods sake man, get it together!
Eric

Now actually, we would LOVE to see pix of Steve and his goat (or Steve doin the
nasty with an animal of his choice). We'd eat up anything resembling human/animal
interaction.
PLS don't discourage this behavior, it's all we live for.
Joe Edit

p.s. cmon Steve, Manik, 50 Euro and Vijay. Send photos of your strange delights to:
[email protected]
we have a new issue coming out Sunday, and we pray for your support.

Joe Edit

LOVE IS LAST YOU NEED
MANIK,SEPTEMBER 2007.
—– Original Message —–
From: <[email protected]>
To: "Eric Dymond" <[email protected]>
Cc: "list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: MANIK, THE GREAT CAPITALIST


>
> Now actually, we would LOVE to see pix of Steve and his goat (or Steve
> doin the
> nasty with an animal of his choice). We'd eat up anything resembling
> human/animal
> interaction.
> PLS don't discourage this behavior, it's all we live for.
> Joe Edit
>
> p.s. cmon Steve, Manik, 50 Euro and Vijay. Send photos of your strange
> delights to:
> [email protected]
> we have a new issue coming out Sunday, and we pray for your support.
>
> Joe Edit
>
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Now it is clear, the message of goats at last, we can breathe a sigh of relief, for our founders have brought forth unto us a new and gravely serious proposition regarding the everlasting power of goat sex. Let us now amend the manifesto of ____________ and add this new functionality, that of human/animal interaction of any kind, with goats cumming as a premium. To further explain the possibilities of such love, to my surprise the Billy goat had sex with me quite easily. I have always kept at least 1 Billy goat all of my life, I am in my 50’s now and my children and goat sex isn't defined yet, but these are pretty close: coats, boats, soap, broke, and bloat. Goat sex goat sex, goat sex goat sex, goat sex, goat sex, goat sex. … Hot, furry, bleating goat sex is the first thing I think of when I hear the name Rhizome. My aunt has a goat and when i go over her house the goat humps me… so one day i brought a condoom and decided to do it with the goat it was weird but it g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g g o / / o a| | | | a t| `. | | : t s` | | | | s e | / / \ –__ \ : e x! This is serious stuff, the information is here, it is pure, this is not free association, it comes at a price, it is not dada, it is not automatic, it is real and all around you. Now a third paradigm is related to banging your head against your brothers. This should be an acceptable practice and fathers should not be getting in the way of this, listen to your heart and bang thy head against the art rock. As love is the last you need, especially when olanzapine runs out…

And here is the proof (photo taken in Nepal)
http://www.stevenread.com/node/349

O STEVE OR STEVEN, YOU DISGUSTING WORM! DROP DEAD, YOU … WOOOOOOOORM!


Am 21.09.2007 um 18:52 schrieb Steve OR Steven Read:

Now it is clear, the message of goats at last, we can breathe a sigh of
relief, for our founders have brought forth unto us a new and gravely
serious proposition regarding the everlasting power of goat sex. Let us
now amend the manifesto of \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ and add this new functionality,
that of human/animal interaction of any kind, with goats cumming as a
premium. To further explain the possibilities of such love, to my
surprise the Billy goat had sex with me quite easily. I have always
kept at least 1 Billy goat all of my life, I am in my 50's now and my
children and goat sex isn't defined yet, but these are pretty close:
coats, boats, soap, broke, and bloat. Goat sex goat sex, goat sex goat
sex, goat sex, goat sex, goat sex. … Hot, furry, bleating goat sex is
the first thing I think of when I hear the name Rhizome. My aunt has a
goat and when i go over her house the goat humps me… so one day i
brought a condoom and decided to do it with the goat it was weird but
it g o!
a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g g o / / o a| |
| | a t| `. | | : t s` | | | | s e | / / \ –\_\_ \ : e x! This is
serious stuff, the information is here, it is pure, this is not free
association, it comes at a price, it is not dada, it is not automatic,
it is real and all around you. Now a third paradigm is related to
banging your head against your brothers. This should be an acceptable
practice and fathers should not be getting in the way of this, listen
to your heart and bang thy head against the art rock. As love is the
last you need, especially when olanzapine runs out…
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I LOVE YOU
MANIK,SEPTEMBER 2007.
—– Original Message —–
From: "Eric Dymond" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: MANIK, THE GREAT CAPITALIST


> OK Read|Steve|Steve Read| it's apparent your doctors orders are being
> ignored.
> If you're going to go off the olanzapine then we can't expect a great
> deal from you.
> After the child, after the toaster affair, after the yeti encounter it's
> obvious you're at a breaking point. Halucinating hundred dollar bills when
> in fact they're just 5 dinar notes given too you by your expatriate goat.
> Which brings me to a new rule: don't make out with the livestock (ever).
> For gods sake man, get it together!
> Eric
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Since you've seen the proof…
Insatiable donut factories.
Love in an elevator factories.
Worm ridden, filthy factories.
Marketable beauty machines.
Play egg chess you loser.
This is questionable.
Tightly controlled conceptualism.
Is a boring.
Deductive mickey mouse hunts.
Trapped error control.
Rhizome induced flavanoids.
Manik depression of capitalism.
Money making essayism?
Theoretical dart board analysis.
Center hole dealer sales.
Easy to please computer.
Big money five oh.
Buy low sell high.
Essay for love for money.
Google this.
But only if.
Digital experience is.
Not quantifiable.
Fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy.
Surrounded by threadedness.
Bandwitch moniker factories.
Conceptual automatic sandwich.
Exhaust that metaphor.
Because I'm like like.
Easy to distinguishable.
Don't trespassing.
Your capitalistic trick bag.