Re: re net art market RAM IT IN part 1

"Encapsulation of type is thus achieved when there is an abstract class with
derivations (or an interface with implementations) that are used
polymorphically. "

Alan Salloway & James R. Trott , Design Patterns Explained. A New
Perspective on Object-Oriented Design,
Boston: Addison-Wesley (2004), p.121

Quote of the day at http://www.vilt.net/nkdee


Objects to RAM into society:
Artistic freedom. Artistic freedom is thus achieved when no abstract class
can be thought of or generated that has derivations (or an interface with
implementations) that are used polymorphically in order to encapsulate your
artistic process and make money from your art when you don't want it.

Capsule: any living process reduced to an object by commercial systems to
make it managable & profitable.

Process to RAM into society:
Transcoding of programming concepts into society needs critical and artistic
analysis and a counterbalance building upon that analysis.

Priority: none. I'll probably change my mind about this again tomorrow. Or
rephrase it. Processes don't work the RAMMING way. There's no need for
revolutions. If you make art, deny it's art. Destruction is an essential
part of creation. Love's function is to create unknownness. My body is the
car I drive. The vehicle inside me contains a person. I am caught in the
trap of life. I know only how I make it. A tree is not a tree. Silence is
not equal to absence of speech. I could go on like this for ages, but I have
a commercial deadline to meet. In fact I'm dead already.

dv
http://www.vilt.net/nkdee


—–Original Message—–
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dirk Vekemans
Sent: dinsdag 26 april 2005 15:08
To: 'Jim Andrews'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: RHIZOME_RAW: re net art market she shoots she scores

That's probably what it boils down too, & it kinda takes the whole point
from underneath this discussion: if you see the media as a gigantic scanning
device looking for money everywhere it can, and getting more refined at it
every day, you don't need to worry about to sell or not to sell or even
about how to sell, it's just a matter of you being picked up by it or not.
In fact, trying to get sold could be disadvantageous to your profit, 'cause
you might be pushing up the wrong parameters to the system.

It doesn't do away with the very real problem of how to finance making the
kind of art no large supporting or commercial institute is interested in,
though. You still have to bend & twist that in all directions just to be
acceptable, it's dicatorial: i mean you can write poetry with a piece of
paper and a pencil,you don't need any money, if you want to make net art or
installation art or anything involving computers, you will need your basic
infrastructure and lot's of time for research/learning.

I could manage pretty well writing/working regular jobs and have some nice
results, not caring about any commercial pressure at all and i'm pretty sure
i would have written different things when i did care about getting
published within the existing publication media. As it turned out, i have
far more people reading my poetry than i would have the traditional
publishing way, plus i've written stuff that i'm actually happy about.
Of course, the kind of poetry i'm talking about doesn't have any commercial
value at all, it's not exactly the love & romance stuff song texts are made
of…

I'm finding it very hard doing the writing/developing/net art/working
combination without starting to bend my highly poetic notions into some
stuff that's sellable. I don't like that because i feel i'm wasting time
with that kind of detour, I would like to do it the same way like i used to
do when writing & not change anything because it would give me money. I just
can't maintain my strict division of this i do for money and this i do
because it fullfills my artistic needs (i really don't care why I have
those, i have 'm so i have to do sth with it). And i do believe that i have
some meaningful things for others to say & do in this field, that couldn't
be done by people who haven't gone to the depth of how language can be
turned into poetry.
It's a rather unknown perspective, but if you'd care to check out some of
the stuff that my compatriot and much better writer Peter Verhelst is doing
with Crew Online at http://www.crewonline.org/crew.html , you'll see that
the very same perspective can lead to some amazing and very relevant art.

Well, heck, i'm just starting out with net art , i'll find a way to ram it
up the system anyway.

dv
http://www.vilt.net/nkdee


—–Original Message—–
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Jim Andrews
Sent: dinsdag 26 april 2005 13:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: re net art market she shoots she scores

i wonder how the different financial pressures different places exert on
people shape attitudes to art, and what is 'viable' and 'of value'?

on a related though slightly digressive note, we are having a great
television hockey season. much like the net (not the one with goalposts). i
watch tv by no schedule, channel surf sporadically. i might find a game from
the swedish league on. or one from the junior leagues. or even more
junior–this season i've seen a championship pee wee game (12 year olds).
and have seen international 'under 17' games. and AHL games. And the
Canadian women's team. And local hockey on TV. And it's just as interesting
to watch as NHL games. Moreso in certain ways. It isn't bloodsport. The best
game I've seen this year was the Canadian University championship game.
Excellent! I like the net approach to televised hockey: diversity.

When professional dominance of the media fails, we discover the televised
game in a fresh way and are able to see the relevance of the professional is
highly constructed, artificial. once the strike is over, this diversity of
televised hockey will diminish, no doubt, to the previous state. but that is
not so much because it's what people want as what the machines of capitalist
media prefer as high octane fuel (to make and take money).

ja
http://vispo.com



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