RE: [SPAM] RHIZOME_RAW: derrida was a flip-flopper

I totally agree with Eduardo.

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> > Subject: [SPAM] RHIZOME_RAW: derrida was a flip-flopper
> > From: "Lee Wells" <[email protected]>
> > Not anymore but his inconsistency will remain forever.
> > Was Derrida a flip-flopper?
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> Can we be more respectful?
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> Don't make general statements unless you are ready to explain yourself.
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> He earned better than this–whether one likes theory or not.
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interesting. i interpreted Lee's statement not as disrespectful toward
Derrida but as a humorous acknowlegement of the relevance of his ideas to
the current 'language wars' between bush and kerry. bushies characterize
kerry as a flip-flopper and bush as plain spoken. but bush is not plain
spoken and assinine 'bushisms' highlight this, as do many of his
pronouncements such as Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the USA
invaded Iraq. Bushies try to make Bush out as a plain-spoken teller of the
truth. but language itself, never mind power and desire, resists this. the
situation is more like what trashconnection describes when s/he says "it is
relation, more like a terrain, but without any hard ground, because every
word as the placeholder of sense is just a placeholder, but a placeholder
with 'tradition'.

Derrida's writing is famously difficult. It is hard to tell, often, what the
hell he means. But he affirms the value of reserving the right to change our
minds as we learn more about complex situations, like Kerry the 'flip
flopper'.

also, recall that it was Lee who originally posted the news of Derrida's
death and the article from the NY Times, which is another indication that he
is unlikely to be disrespectful of Derrida.

ja


> Can we be more respectful?
>
> Don't make general statements unless you are ready to explain yourself.
>
> He earned better than this–whether one likes theory or not.
>
> e.

I ask you to explain yourself.
How am I being disrespectful?

Derrida was inconsistent and contradicted himself all the time.
He was of great help to me while I was still in school because he taught me
that you didn't have to stand firm on the issues. You may deconstruct an
issue however you like.

I dig him and am sorry that such a great mind has passed.
I've read a portion of his works and can honestly say that the conclusion I
have drawn from them has not always been party line and on other aspect I
just though he was on a lot of drugs and fucking with everybody.

He was not one of the most user friendly of the French theorists.

Oh and if you haven't noticed I make general statements.
Cheers,
Lee

On 10/10/04 3:10 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>> ——– Original Message ——–
>> Subject: [SPAM] RHIZOME_RAW: derrida was a flip-flopper
>> From: "Lee Wells" <[email protected]>
>> Not anymore but his inconsistency will remain forever.
>> Was Derrida a flip-flopper?
>
>
> Can we be more respectful?
>
> Don't make general statements unless you are ready to explain yourself.
>
> He earned better than this–whether one likes theory or not.
>
> e.
>
> +
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> -> questions: [email protected]
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Thanks for the good words Jim.

On 10/10/04 3:56 PM, "Jim Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote:

> interesting. i interpreted Lee's statement not as disrespectful toward
> Derrida but as a humorous acknowlegement of the relevance of his ideas to
> the current 'language wars' between bush and kerry. bushies characterize
> kerry as a flip-flopper and bush as plain spoken. but bush is not plain
> spoken and assinine 'bushisms' highlight this, as do many of his
> pronouncements such as Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the USA
> invaded Iraq. Bushies try to make Bush out as a plain-spoken teller of the
> truth. but language itself, never mind power and desire, resists this. the
> situation is more like what trashconnection describes when s/he says "it is
> relation, more like a terrain, but without any hard ground, because every
> word as the placeholder of sense is just a placeholder, but a placeholder
> with 'tradition'.
>
> Derrida's writing is famously difficult. It is hard to tell, often, what the
> hell he means. But he affirms the value of reserving the right to change our
> minds as we learn more about complex situations, like Kerry the 'flip
> flopper'.
>
> also, recall that it was Lee who originally posted the news of Derrida's
> death and the article from the NY Times, which is another indication that he
> is unlikely to be disrespectful of Derrida.
>
> ja
>
>
>> Can we be more respectful?
>>
>> Don't make general statements unless you are ready to explain yourself.
>>
>> He earned better than this–whether one likes theory or not.
>>
>> e.
>
>
> +
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derrida is easy

language is hard






















Lee Wells <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for the good words Jim.

On 10/10/04 3:56 PM, "Jim Andrews" wrote:

> interesting. i interpreted Lee's statement not as disrespectful toward
> Derrida but as a humorous acknowlegement of the relevance of his ideas to
> the current 'language wars' between bush and kerry. bushies characterize
> kerry as a flip-flopper and bush as plain spoken. but bush is not plain
> spoken and assinine 'bushisms' highlight this, as do many of his
> pronouncements such as Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the USA
> invaded Iraq. Bushies try to make Bush out as a plain-spoken teller of the
> truth. but language itself, never mind power and desire, resists this. the
> situation is more like what trashconnection describes when s/he says "it is
> relation, more like a terrain, but without any hard ground, because every
> word as the placeholder of sense is just a placeholder, but a placeholder
> with 'tradition'.
>
> Derrida's writing is famously difficult. It is hard to tell, often, what the
> hell he means. But he affirms the value of reserving the right to change our
> minds as we learn more about complex situations, like Kerry the 'flip
> flopper'.
>
> also, recall that it was Lee who originally posted the news of Derrida's
> death and the article from the NY Times, which is another indication that he
> is unlikely to be disrespectful of Derrida.
>
> ja
>
>
>> Can we be more respectful?
>>
>> Don't make general statements unless you are ready to explain yourself.
>>
>> He earned better than this–whether one likes theory or not.
>>
>> e.
>
>
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