Re: 9-11 In Plane Site" Video

>"'911 in Plane Site' presents actual film from that fateful day and careful
>analysis focusing on the Pentagon and the two World Trade Center buildings.
>By slowing down the actual news feeds that day from networks like CNN, FOX,
>the BBC and others, what you see is quite different from what most people
>saw in 'real time' that day.":
>
>http://fourwinds10.com/news/05-government/C-fraud/01-911/2004/05C1-08-17-04-
>911-video-shocks-sacramento-citizens.html


the URL got me forwarded their homepage, but with a bit of snooping,
you can find this article.

it's really suspect journalism. but actually, a few days after 9/11,
i had found most of this same evidence just by snooping through old
new york times articles. decided while it was happening, live
stories are always confused but what i found may have just been a
bunch of coincidences. decided to wait to see if anyone else found
the same stuff. these folks did find it, years later, by some other
means. so the likelihood of coincidence is drastically reduced.


i'm no journalist either, but here's what i gathered from articles
from about '96 to '02 (just up to 9/11).

the city owned the WTC, was losing money like crazy on it. close to
empty, their biggest renters were leaving in droves in the 90's and
it cost a ton to maintain. after a few years, the city decides
trying to privatize it. they sold the landmark (which by ny law, no
one could demolish even if it cost them millions/year to keep). after
negotiations that would crumble after a few years, silverstein buys
it for about a third of the price asked (about a fourth of the
assessed market value) in about a month. a publicist for the realty
company appeared to lie about the sq. footage being nearly full there
(did the math, they weren't even close). then about 2 months later,
the buildings are both demolished, with almost no structural damage
to outlying property. the insurance companies involved fork over
millions in settlement, particularly to the silversteins. the city
loses their twin sore thumbs.


of course, none of this leads to any definite proof. certainly, if
either or both planes had the ability to shoot missiles, that WOULD
be scary. did somehow, a commercial plane take off with that kind of
weoponry? and nobody stopped it at the runway or shortly after
take-off? who all was in on this? how much "explanation" was
cover-up? i couldn't tell anything from their footage.

but isn't it odd that the attacks in pennsylvania and dc didn't yield
results even close to the same scale as in NY. why did the others
fail to do damage with nearly the same impact? the pennsylvania
escapade was deterred by one brave guy and the one in DC only did
some damage to the pentagon, but the other attempt took down both
twin towers? doesn't this strike you as weird? folks are still
riled up about the WTC incident after almost 2 years, we remain as if
in red alert though nothing has happened since. do folks WANT to
feel threatened?


is the government in on it? who knows. who even cares at this
point. bush is so blatantly maniacal, anything's possible. people
let him get away with anything. the more ridiculous, the better.

it was recently exposed that Tom Ridge's latest warning was a sham.
nobody seems to act any differently, as if they always assumed it
must be true anyway. the prez obviously isn't about to tell us his
real reason for putting the US back a few million in debt to blow up
sand dunes? there's a lot less money in everyone's pocket but who
cares as long as everyone with a turban is blown up. the last US
election was clearly the biggest coup to democracy in our lifetimes.
so why do folks let this maniac run loose? he shouldn't be outside
of an institution, much less in the white house. but guess it's like
asking why everyone supported hitler for so long.


here's the relevant part that article from LetsRoll911.org

t can be proven that missiles were used against the world trade
center. It can further be proven that the World Trade Center was
brought down by controlled demolitions, purposely, with 3000
innocent, helpless souls inside. With this being the case, it changes
everything for the World, for Afghanistan, for Iraq, for George Bush,
and lastly but not least, insurance companies involved. This website
will save them billions! It will save United & American Airlines
billions, and help everyone recover losses already paid out. Not only
was 911 pre-planned, but those who did so, did so with the intention
of using this event to defraud insurance companies out of billions
upon billions of dollars at the same time. Thus making the insurance
claims null and void. I sure would hate to be Larry Silverstein right
now, cause this doesn't look good for him. He bought the World Trade
Center some 90 days before 911 with all sorts of special and now, in
hindsight, curious insurance riders. He bought 2 Asbestos filled
'Golden Herring' Towers which would cost more to tear down than to
replace. And now, he has the gall to try to make the insurance
companies double pay for the World Trade Center. Shameless. But with
this new development, the insurance companies can not only stop
payment on all 911 claims, but they can now start to recover their
huge losses due to fraud. What will Larry Silverstein settle for now?
Perhaps he knew nothing, one can only hope. It will be for the
investigators of the true official investigation to figure out. But
as of yet, this investigation hasn't started. The sham 911 commission
is designed to cover this up. The true investigation, in my opinion,
will only be done by those who have the most to lose. Insurance
companies. When they see the Dog and Pony show that has been leveled
against them, they will, and should rise up in unison and say; "Nope,
not a dime…Let the insiders pay for their handiwork! With the
information here at the site, it should provide the Insurance
companies, with far more than enough reason to just saying 'no' to
another nickel or dime payout. Let the truth begin and lets leave the
falsehoods behind….

Comments

, Rob Myers

On 23 Aug 2004, at 19:08, Plasma Studii - uospn

, Plasma Studii

>>but isn't it odd that the attacks in pennsylvania and dc didn't
>>yield results even close to the same scale as in NY. why did the
>>others fail to do damage with nearly the same impact?
>
>Yeah, why didn't all 100+ levels of the Pentagon collapse?
>
>The structures hit were quite different. The WTC was a house of
>cards, structurally. A hit in the right place started the process of
>its collapse. Look at the footage immediately after the plane hits.
>There's a crater, not half the building missing. Kinda like the
>Pentagon….
>
>> the pennsylvania escapade was deterred by one brave guy and the
>>one in DC only did some damage to the pentagon, but the other
>>attempt took down both twin towers? doesn't this strike you as
>>weird?
>
>No. It's difficult to damage a low complex and a field as much as a
>towering skyscraper with the same impact.


not comparing the structural damage here at all, but probably not
clear. just that one attack went like clockwork, had a huge impact,
not just on the architecture but psyches, the others were
comparatively speaking - duds. but to really compare them, you have
to look at it from another perspective. forget the accepted version.


there are SO many stories with almost some evidence, seems odd that
everyone's buying a story that the govt gives us, so convenient for
bush (a habitual slimebag), with almost no evidence. if you look at
who else could gain from this, and THEN assemble a story, rather than
have a story first and then decide who would gain, the picture gets
rearranged.

clearly bush, the city of NY and the realtors had a lot to gain, each
for their separate reasons. bet they'd all kill 3000 for a few
million bucks without batting an eye too. bush had to know more than
that could get killed in a war. so no doubt he'd do it.



the rest is stuff they said at this site. i agree with you, it ain't
good journalism, more like just sensationalist propaganda. the next
paragraph gets worse, so i cut it off.



>>it can be proven that missiles were used against the world trade center.
>
>It can be "proven" that there's a giant face on Mars. You just need
>the right enhancement artefacts…
>
>>It can further be proven that the World Trade Center was brought
>>down by controlled demolitions, purposely, with 3000 innocent,
>>helpless souls inside.
>
>A civil engineer I knew on a mailing list ridiculed a friend of his
>who'd been taken in by this explanation because they both knew the
>physics involved.
>
>>But with this new development, the insurance companies can not only
>>stop payment on all 911 claims, but they can now start to recover
>>their huge losses due to fraud. What will Larry Silverstein settle
>>for now?
>
>Ah. Now *here's* a conspiracy. Insurance company shills…
>
>- Rob.
>
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, Rob Myers

On 23 Aug 2004, at 22:38, Plasma Studii - uospn