macromedia.microsoft.real.etcetcetc REALLY sucks

this has nothing to do with using Macromedia (or any other software
other than IE) products, tho their plugins are effected.

Even if you write your own applet or application in **JAVA** and it
is embedded in a web page (like Napier and many others) you are
effected by this.

M$ was just the first to get the summons. If Eolas gets the 500mil
they'll have more than enough dough to slap Mozilla, Apple, Opera and
etc into line so that NO browser is able to load plug-ins or external
objects into a page be they flash, shockwave, quicktime, java or
whatever else.

++

Why isn't there a push for a standards-based, open source vector
animation format? like SVG? ask MS. They won't build it into their
browser (but, who knows, maybe now they will, Apple's Safari team is
also considering building SVG rendering right into the browser and
tah dah! no patent problems from eolas).

But, right now, Flash is about 10 billion times easier to use and
author, has tons more features, and is supported by more browsers
than SVG. It is a sad but true fact.

Java is controlled by Sun. Javascript (i believe) is controlled by a
standards body much like XHMTL and etc.


At 13:57 -0400 10/8/03, Eryk Salvaggio wrote:
>Ultimately, when you hand your art to a tool which is controlled by a
>corporation, you have to plan for a relatively fast obsolescence.
>Particularly with the dot com bust and the net.art deflation. In this case,
>artists using shockwave are victims of a lawsuit where one company's greed
>gave way to microsofts thirst for power. Considering that Microsoft has
>always had a thirst for power, it is a surprise that anyone using a software
>that could be remotely considered competitive for market share (or internet
>control) would be shocked by Microsofts desire to annhilate that
>competition. Consider net artists who used the blink tag- their art is at
>the mercy of Netscape, but also at the mercy of Microsoft not annhilating
>netscape.
>
>It's like Godzilla vs Mothra. Giant powers battling for supremacy and Tokyo
>is getting destroyed by the oblivious dumb beasts. Humans send in the law
>but the helicopters get swatted down like flies. And to quote:
>
>Hero: "You must return the egg. I'm sorry, but you'll just have to accept
>it, the real owner is Mothra."
>Villain: "If that's the case, let's see the power of attorney given to you
>by Mothra!"
>
>Can anyone tell me why we are not seeing a massive push for some sort of
>method of vector based animation and interaction being pushed as a standard,
>to ensure stability and longevity in design? Is it because of the corporate
>wish to maintain thier monopoly on software capable of producing this stuff?
>I would, if I were them. But is Javascript and Java proprietary? I am asking
>because I didn't think it was, or at least not in the same way that
>Macromedia Products are.
>
>-e.
>
>
>
>
>—– Original Message —–
>From: "t.whid" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:21 AM
>Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Re: ms REALLY sucks
>
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> I can't believe that this is all you have to say on the matter.
>>
>> Is it simply not that big of a deal to you? You're being forced to recode
>every page that uses shockwave because of someone's greed. The web is about
>to become much more user unfriendly because of someone's greed.
>>
>> Doesn't that piss you off?
>>
>> It pisses me off, it pisses me off a lot.
>>
>> Everyone seems to be rolling over for this. There isn't much discussion at
>all except Dominey (http://whatdoiknow.org/archives/001254.shtml).
>>
>> Where's the outrage?!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Andrews wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > > well not really.
>> > >
>> > > not sure if they suck, or the bastards who sued 'em suck; but it
>> > > looks like it's on the way.
>> > >
>> > > fun, oh, fun.
>> > >
>> > > (first time i've ever found myself siding with MS on an issue.)
>> > >
>> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/
>> >
>> > Here's a page for those who have created pages using Macromedia
>> > Flash/Shockwave affected by this thing:
>> >
>> > http://macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/
>> >
>> > ja
>> >
>> >
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