Re: [screenburn] Simulataneous Space

I really like these Joseph.
Maybe it's something in the air: I've found myself
working on what seems to be becoming a sequence of
small Quick Time movies.
I find myself drawn to the terse and the aphoristic
and there's just something wonderful about the
fragility of the little movie window on the screen and
that's even before you get to the content.
There's an intimacy about it as well -it seems a
really appropriate format in which to deliver stuff
that touches on the personal and the domestic ( but
not of course exclusively that).
"taking
you into some other spaces without really leaving
mine."
That I like too, though I'm not sure I understand your
entire preamble to the works. For me enjoying somehing
like these pieces is feeling that the increasingly
baroque apparatus of artist statment, promotion &c is
pretty much redundant here.
Because, also, video is *fixed*, there's no anxiety,
no fuss, about interactivity ,except of course the
subtle and interesting interactivity that always
exists between artwork, viewer and society.
Anyway, I enjoyed them.
best
michael

— joseph the barbarian <[email protected]>
wrote:
> A few weeks back I was watching "Who's Line is it
> Anyway" which is a
> simulated live improv comedy show. The comics
> involved were doing a skit
> that was to be X-rated with the bad words bleeped
> out. One comic stole the
> show by saying "Want to see me make my hands blur?",
> at which point he hold
> both hands up - and on the TV screen they were
> blurred, but from the
> audience reaction you could tell they were an
> obscene gesture. Now it
> struck me that for this joke to work, both the
> audience in person and
> watching television needed to exist in simulataneous
> space, either current
> and projected into the future, or current and
> projected into the past, as
> well as needing to understand a fairly sophisticated
> cultural atmosphere of
> censorship and what is considered obscene.
> Additionally, as with the other
> Drew Carry show, there is almost a hands-up, we give
> up attitude towards
> trying to create an illusion of a differing reality,
> and from fighting
> corporate and government interests.
>
> So, in my train of thought, it comes to me that
> artists are likewise
> becoming exhausted. Oh sure, there is still some
> flabby attempts by hiding
> behind a scientific and academic facade, but
> everyone knows its a bullshit,
> marketing game (or gone off the deep end and believe
> their own shit - "yea,
> maybe I AM GOD").
>
> Whatever, here are some videos I made with these
> thoughts in mind, taking
> you into some other spaces without really leaving
> mine.
>
> http://electrichands.com/shorts/
>
> joseph
>
>
>
>
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, joseph mcelroy

hey michael

The computer screen is designed for your face to be about the length of an
arm or less away…. it whispers (screams?) for work that is intimate.
There are no labels here, it is "me" and "you"… not "Artist" and "Viewer"
(of course "me" and "you" are labels, but not in a capitalized way). If you
shout in a stadium full of people, not many will hear and those close will
be bothered. But you can have a meaningful conversation with a friend.

joseph

—– Original Message —–
From: "Michael Szpakowski" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "rhizome" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [screenburn] Simulataneous Space


> I really like these Joseph.
> Maybe it's something in the air: I've found myself
> working on what seems to be becoming a sequence of
> small Quick Time movies.
> I find myself drawn to the terse and the aphoristic
> and there's just something wonderful about the
> fragility of the little movie window on the screen and
> that's even before you get to the content.
> There's an intimacy about it as well -it seems a
> really appropriate format in which to deliver stuff
> that touches on the personal and the domestic ( but
> not of course exclusively that).
> "taking
> you into some other spaces without really leaving
> mine."
> That I like too, though I'm not sure I understand your
> entire preamble to the works. For me enjoying somehing
> like these pieces is feeling that the increasingly
> baroque apparatus of artist statment, promotion &c is
> pretty much redundant here.
> Because, also, video is *fixed*, there's no anxiety,
> no fuss, about interactivity ,except of course the
> subtle and interesting interactivity that always
> exists between artwork, viewer and society.
> Anyway, I enjoyed them.
> best
> michael
>
> — joseph the barbarian <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > A few weeks back I was watching "Who's Line is it
> > Anyway" which is a
> > simulated live improv comedy show. The comics
> > involved were doing a skit
> > that was to be X-rated with the bad words bleeped
> > out. One comic stole the
> > show by saying "Want to see me make my hands blur?",
> > at which point he hold
> > both hands up - and on the TV screen they were
> > blurred, but from the
> > audience reaction you could tell they were an
> > obscene gesture. Now it
> > struck me that for this joke to work, both the
> > audience in person and
> > watching television needed to exist in simulataneous
> > space, either current
> > and projected into the future, or current and
> > projected into the past, as
> > well as needing to understand a fairly sophisticated
> > cultural atmosphere of
> > censorship and what is considered obscene.
> > Additionally, as with the other
> > Drew Carry show, there is almost a hands-up, we give
> > up attitude towards
> > trying to create an illusion of a differing reality,
> > and from fighting
> > corporate and government interests.
> >
> > So, in my train of thought, it comes to me that
> > artists are likewise
> > becoming exhausted. Oh sure, there is still some
> > flabby attempts by hiding
> > behind a scientific and academic facade, but
> > everyone knows its a bullshit,
> > marketing game (or gone off the deep end and believe
> > their own shit - "yea,
> > maybe I AM GOD").
> >
> > Whatever, here are some videos I made with these
> > thoughts in mind, taking
> > you into some other spaces without really leaving
> > mine.
> >
> > http://electrichands.com/shorts/
> >
> > joseph
> >
> >
> >
> >
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< them PLACES Br typesetter > the teacher IN relative work in the SEA of
LINE:
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