Live Query and the fallacy of relevance

I think the artistic claim to relevance is largely a red herring. Tim wrote that
"it used to be that it was the artist's job to capture the 'collective
consciousness' either through intuition, genius, or dumb-luck", but I could not
disagree with this statement more.

I don't know who it was that first put forth a belief like this, but I can
understand its appeal. It's comforting to see the artist as the canary in the
coal mine. It makes it easy to justify your usefulness to society. When your
uncle asks you over Thanksgiving dinner what you've been doing with your life,
you can say "I've been limning the cultural tendencies of an increasingly
networked culture. Please pass the mashed potatoes."

But such a view of art tends to drastically oversimplify the process, and the
interaction between artist and audience. Yes, sometimes artists spark some
cultural flashpoint. I'm reading Greil Marcus' "Invisible Republic" right now,
and the accounts of the turmoil that Bob Dylan stirred up by going electric are
both fascinating and inspiring. But do you suppose artists do relevant work
because they're trying to? Or just because of dumb luck? Sometimes it seems to
me like a million monkeys at a million typewriters: With so many artists around
the world pounding on the keys, _something_ timely is bound to happen.

Luck is more important than we give it credit for, and I don't mean luck in the
way that the Dadaists or generative art folks mean. I mean that if you decide to
spend hours chasing your own little obsession – whether that's folds of cloth
or the flight of bumblebees or the sound of a 56k modem – the odds are quite
slim that somebody else will see it and be deeply touched by it. But what other
choice do you have? Obsessing about the question, and worrying about how to
increase the relevance of your work, doesn't usually make the work itself
better. All it does is take away from the time you have to make art before you die.

So I guess I don't see Google's Live Query as great art, and certainly not as
much of a threat. Maybe people searched more for "Jessica Simpson" this month
than "Britney Spears" – so what? Why should I care? Why should I let such
anxious, trifling factoids into my heart?

I can think of two things that net art can do that Live Query cannot. First, as
Curt wrote, it can communicate highly personal, idiosyncratic, narrative
experience. Companies are basically uninterested in this sort of work because it
doesn't scale well: Compare box office grosses for each new superhero movie to
grosses to the newest Almodovar, for example, and it's easy to see why there are
so many more superhero movies out there.

But the second function is more specific to the community at hand. There are
technological corners that corporations will not explore, because the
return-on-investment (ROI, in business-speak) is small or non-existent. The
Institute for Applied Autonomy, for example, makes impressive tech in the name
of political agitation. Curt has already pointed out W. Bradford Paley's
TextArc, which is gorgeous, but also probably commercially useless. I can even
say that from my own experience – not that I'm claiming to be as good a
programmer as the IAA or Paley – that I've programmed works that to my
knowledge have never been done before by anybody else, because there was no
money in it.

So why did I do them? Mostly because I had an itch to scratch. I believe that
the creative process is a process of discovery; you work upon your medium but
you also listen to what it tells you as you go along. The idea is not enough for
me. For me to work on something there has to be an element of mystery in the
idea, questions that can only be answered by forgetting the concept and crafting
the object. I don't worry too much about whether somebody else will find it
telling. I just want to explore.

Sometimes, though, the work you do for yourself is interesting to somebody else.
I was checking the logs for my last work – a work, BTW, that's very similar to
a project that Microsoft almost did years ago and then backed away from because
everyone was freaked about its privacy implications – and found it referred to
from some guy's blog. It was a personal, low-traffic blog that nothing to do
with net art, but somehow this guy had found my work, and he was as excited
about it as I was. Something about it spoke to him, the way it spoke to me. I
posted a few notes on his blog about what was on my mind at the time, and
somewhere in our conversation there was a spark of recognition and commonality.

This is probably sentimental or banal, but this is most of the reason I do any
creative work – ultimately, it's all about people, connecting in the random
happenstance ways that people connect on this earth. Now I can wonder at the
possibility that this blogger will go on to write some code that incorporates,
in some small way, the ideas I was exploring in my work. This is not a story
about an entire culture; it's only two people. He's not the zeitgeist, and
neither am I. We're just two modest individuals, excited about the same idea and
sharing that excitement for one brief instant.

Francis

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Comments

, M. River

It might be helpful to jump over the public/private
argument here. My first conversation with Tim after
reading his post started with an "if, then" scenario
that held up personal narrative as a method in which
net art succeeds in relation to a corporate
programming. A week or so later, I'm not sure if this
stance holds up. The reason? - the(brief)history of
net art itself. Interesting hybrid artworks that look
at society or segments of society are part of net art.
Rhizome, your day job, may be an example of this.

So, to answer your question: "Maybe people searched
more for "Jessica Simpson" this month than "Britney
Spears" – so what? Why should I care? Why should I
let such anxious, trifling factoids into my heart?"

You should care because one of the things that art can
do is look at society or sections of society at large
and attempt to locate meaning. Computers, information,
data and "factoids" can help us do this. Is this a
better method than personal narative? I'm not sure.
Narative is my choice for working. To say it is the
true path limits the posiblites of art.



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, MTAA

i'm not sure if this has much relevance to the conversation but i'll
toss this in:

i had a talk with napier the other night re: Google as net art
masterpiece. i was kinda drunk on Jack Daniels and ginger ale but i
think i came up with a decent analogy.

Mark N.'s POV (if i can paraphrase..) was that he sees Google as (or
maybe not Google but the data or information that it represents or
reveals) a thing of nature. it's comparing art to a sunset in his
opinion.

but i don't see it that way. the information or data that Google
reveals through it's net engineering can't be separated from Google
itself. and my analogy was this: if you're an architect you have the
Brooklyn Bridge* to deal with. You may not design bridges but you
have this icon of art and engineering to consider and measure
yourself against no matter what field of architecture you practice.
as net artists we have Google to consider; Google uses our medium in
a very successful way. it doesn't mean that artists need to respond
literally to Google (as googlefight does) but it should be considered
as you make your net things.

(*this example came to mind because i was admiring the Brooklyn
Bridge last week as m.river and i drove over the Manhattan Bridge in
a u-haul on our way to storing endnode)


>It might be helpful to jump over the public/private
>argument here. My first conversation with Tim after
>reading his post started with an "if, then" scenario
>that held up personal narrative as a method in which
>net art succeeds in relation to a corporate
>programming. A week or so later, I'm not sure if this
>stance holds up. The reason? - the(brief)history of
>net art itself. Interesting hybrid artworks that look
>at society or segments of society are part of net art.
>Rhizome, your day job, may be an example of this.
>
>So, to answer your question: "Maybe people searched
>more for "Jessica Simpson" this month than "Britney
>Spears" – so what? Why should I care? Why should I
>let such anxious, trifling factoids into my heart?"
>
>You should care because one of the things that art can
>do is look at society or sections of society at large
>and attempt to locate meaning. Computers, information,
>data and "factoids" can help us do this. Is this a
>better method than personal narative? I'm not sure.
>Narative is my choice for working. To say it is the
>true path limits the posiblites of art.
>


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, M. River

— "t.whid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> i'm not sure if this has much relevance to the
> conversation but i'll
> toss this in:
>

Same goes for the following post…
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