RHIZOME RAW: A word of warning-don't believe in genius

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From: Joao Pedro
To: [email protected]
Cc: Oliveira Pereira
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:35 PM
Subject: RHIZOME RAW: A word of warning-don't believe in genius


"An amazing thing in our times, is the supervaluation of half-mads,
fanatics or self-entitled genius. They saw things that the others can't
see-of course! That's not to be wondered, but is a advise to us, to act wit=
h prudence and do not trust in them."

Friedrich Nietzsche, in "Morgenrothe", 66-Aptness to the Visions.

First, thanks to Lee Wells and Manik for their support!

Affirmation is not to be perfect or sublime… In fact, the sublime =
man is the fascist, the only one that pretending to conduct the human race =
to the truth! The sublime man, he knows above all, he's a expert about ever=
ything, he will answer to each man, until give reason to her and all the ot=
hers be resembled like him.
Affirmation do not prove anything, will not grow heavy in the shoulder=
s of the neighbour like a burden, the burden of life that i refuse to carry=
! On the contrary, affirmation is to relieve, to make easy the live of the=
next, not arguing with a dogmatic persuation, edit a roll of emails to att=
ack like all the others was the enemy! This is stupid! But what can we do? =
The sublime man don't laugh, don't dance, is a bad player! He lays a wager =
and he plays to win, betted to defy all and everyone of us!
Denying the charge of the sublime man, is to set free our minds, free fr=
om this facist power, the paranoia transformed in potential, void of determ=
inations. We play a revolutionary game: to became what we cannot be, in the=
standardizing language of the power, by her imperative and angry tone that=
we never respected! Sentences from a courthouse? Sorry, but i live very we=
ll without a vision of salvation! And i don't yield up to any pattern, beca=
use i love to be free, free
to think and think is to have power to… I know that's a dangerous thought!

Joao Pedro
[email protected]
http://oliveirapereira1.no.sapo.pt

—– Original Message —–
From: Joao Pedro
To: [email protected]
Cc: Oliveira Pereira
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:35 PM
Subject: RHIZOME RAW: A word of warning-don't believe in genius


"An amazing thing in our times, is the supervaluation of half-mads,
fanatics or self-entitled genius. They saw things that the others can't
see-of course! That's not to be wondered, but is a advise to us, to act wit=
h prudence and do not trust in them."

Friedrich Nietzsche, in "Morgenrothe", 66-Aptness to the Visions.

First, thanks to Lee Wells and Manik for their support!

Affirmation is not to be perfect or sublime… In fact, the sublime =
man is the fascist, the only one that pretending to conduct the human race =
to the truth! The sublime man, he knows above all, he's a expert about ever=
ything, he will answer to each man, until give reason to her and all the ot=
hers be resembled like him.
Affirmation do not prove anything, will not grow heavy in the shoulder=
s of the neighbour like a burden, the burden of life that i refuse to carry=
! On the contrary, affirmation is to relieve, to make easy the live of the=
next, not arguing with a dogmatic persuation, edit a roll of emails to att=
ack like all the others was the enemy! This is stupid! But what can we do? =
The sublime man don't laugh, don't dance, is a bad player! He lays a wager =
and he plays to win, betted to defy all and everyone of us!
Denying the charge of the sublime man, is to set free our minds, free fr=
om this facist power, the paranoia transformed in potential, void of determ=
inations. We play a revolutionary game: to became what we cannot be, in the=
standardizing language of the power, by her imperative and angry tone that=
we never respected! Sentences from a courthouse? Sorry, but i live very we=
ll without a vision of salvation! And i don't yield up to any pattern, beca=
use i love to be free, free
to think and think is to have power to… I know that's a dangerous thought!

Joao Pedro
[email protected]
http://oliveirapereira1.no.sapo.pt

Doug Lewis:

It's not easy to answer to your question, but i will try.
Nietzsche in XIX century, made the transition between: a philosophy es=
tablished in two fundamental truths that built the ocidental thought, since=
Plato (the principle of identity and the principle of contradiction), and =
a emergent philosophy that give emphasis to live, a vital existence, beyoun=
d good and evil. The classic notion of contradiction, defended that two val=
ues, denying each other, only one could be truth, don't serve Nietzsche. If=
one of the judges is truth, the other is fake, said the logic of the syllo=
gisms, based in the dialectic, like the dialectic used for Plato in their d=
ialogues, to defeat the adversary. On the other hand, for Nietzsche doesn't=
matter if a proposition is truth or fake… If the value would be useful i=
n a vital way, then is rightful to make use of it, even that value being fa=
ke. But Nietzsche don't stop there and said: the philosopher must invent ne=
w values, new meanings. It beahoves us to do the meaning of one thing, in t=
he "praxis", in a vital and affirmative way. Dionysus is the affirmation go=
d. The logical thought is no more a labyrinth of moral (based in one truth)=
, but the labyrinth of live. And in live they are tensions, between potenti=
als (as opposed to a identity) and a tension of this kind is called "value"=
. Not an economic or moral sense, but in a sense of self-invention, pure af=
firmation, a play that only have the purpose of joy, to relieve the tension=
. But there are a danger, if you actualize this potential, over and over, i=
n the same way. If it grows like a image that never change, like a religiou=
s icon, a attractor to all potentiality, then you have a force of power, a =
fascist one. Because that force attempt to impose themself like a identity,=
necessary to all, but they can't resolve all the contraditions, this power=
see enemys everywhere, in a permenent paranoia state. A fascist state is a=
suicide state. Paranoia will killing them.
I don't think that's necessary to resolve the contradiction, between t=
ruth or fake, right or wrong, good or evil, them or us, ally or enemy. Like=
Nietzsche, the artist is beyound that duality of concepts. There are many =
levels of desire, think, knowing… Reduce the complications of desire, int=
o one vision of things, in a "genial" perspective of the world, into the sa=
me "sublime" reality, without alternative, that's the INJUSTICE they can do=
to us! Gore Vidal wrote in "Empire": "The condition of the hell, is not im=
agine that we have a alternative for our lives."
The ability to contradict sometimes is hiden a will of power and that =
will, have two faces: affirmation and denial. And the affirmation of the su=
blime man is a negative force. Because he don't accept another affirmation,=
the "yes" that can answer to own "yes". Dionysus need to be loved. The sub=
lime man is too much perfect and he needs nobody. He judge the others by on=
eself and because of that, think he had solve all the contradiction. He sol=
ved nothing! Her affirmation deny the affirmation of the others. But, you a=
sk me: "We could answer always with a yes?" Of course we can't! We are not =
the "yes men"! That's why is important deny a reactive force, which impose =
the INJUSTICE for all, the force that always say: "You are wrong! We live i=
n the better of the worlds and there's no alternative!" Now, imagine that r=
eactive power, reverse her position, turn upside down and don't say "no" an=
ymore, but "yes" to the differents alternatives: Then, it would be no more =
a fascist state, but a schizophrenic state!
The ability to contradict is important to fight against this kind of in=
justice! If you deny a negative force, to resist and face it, you will make=
a affirmation, a statement that can change the conditions of a particular =
context and, in that case, speak gives a new meaning to reality, a tool to =
dig deeper the indicium of the unsaid, what was behind the oficial version.=
But, more important to speak, is to act! And for that you also need abilit=
y, strategys: Dionysus must be quick and very swift too!
How ever, in a open comunnity like rhizome, i think the essencial is su=
pport, try understand, to relieve and help the nextone. Have a different op=
inion it doesn't mean to have a ego of the size of the world! Contradiction=
between all opinions, gives to us a multiplicity of points of view, and re=
member, the fascist state hate that! That's why i don't comprehend the dogm=
atism, even less, the insult in a place like this and i agree with Lee Well=
s: "Stop the heat, spread love!" We're in the same boat. Let's stay togethe=
r, because together we will undefeatble!


Best regards:

Joao Pedro
[email protected]
http://oliveirapereira1.no.sapo.pt

—– Original Message —–
From: "Doug Lewis" <[email protected]>
To: "'Joao Pedro'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: RHIZOME_RAW: Fw: RHIZOME RAW: A word of warning-don't believe =
in genius


> written with a sublime message left fully intact… Nietzsche spoke about=

> "The ability to Contradict" as a tool for speaking about one's own
> injustices of which they are yet unaware; is it possible?
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