Any thoughts on this Death?

>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>To: Max Herman <[email protected]>
>CC: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 03:04:32 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Also this Death:
> >
> > http://www.darkzen.com/Articles/meansofauthorization.htm
>
> No comments.

This reminds me of why you are worthless:

Soen Shaku, the famous Rinzai Master who was D. T. Suzuki's teacher,
commenting on Zen satori[5] states, "To say the Buddha had a satori
experience sounds as if we are talking about a Zen monk, but I think it is
permissible to say that a monk's attaining satori corresponds to the
Buddha's awakening effortlessly."[6] Here we see that Zen satori is equated
with the historical Buddha's great enlightenment, the very zenith of
Buddhist attainment. Since the Master/roshi represents the Zen institution,
it does not require too big a leap of imagination to make the correspondence
between the present day Zen institution and the historical Buddha by laying
the groundwork for the lineage convention.

The well known Chinese Ch'an teacher, Master Sheng-yen also said
of the Zen Master, "it should be remembered that the mind of the master is
ever pure… and even if the master tells lies, steals, and chases women…,
he is still to be considered a true master as long as he scolds his
disciples for their transgressions."[7]

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Death, you have to answer the question, what do you think about it?

I don't 'have' to answer the question.

> You are just lying if you say you have no thoughts on it.

No, I am not. I have no thoughts whatsoever.

> A coward avoiding the question.

Not at all. I simply have no thoughts.


> Look at the url. Your egoless mind sees absolutely nothing?

What my mind sees is for me to know. I am not obliged to tell you what
it is. I'm not even obliged to convert it to thoughts.

> Do you think the url is good or bad?

I have no thoughts on the matter.

> Go and watch the Nader video.

No.

> Your ricketty tinny consciousness sees nothing?

My consciousness is neither ricketty, nor tinny.
You're being a pathetic bully.

> I think you confuse loveless stagnation

Babe, that'd be you. I am hardly loveless,
and hardly stagnant.

> and cowardly self-justification with enlightenment.

My dear. You just described yourself.
Baby, you're not authority on enlightement.
You're–again–a perfect example of a dictatorial ape,
as it emerges in an atmosphere of a lack of actual
valid spiritual connection.


> I will be finding many more questions for you.

Good for you.

> You of course are too cowardly to answer.

I don't owe you any answers. Cowardice hasn't got anything to do for
you. And since you're making references towards the Q & A which I do,
those were intended ina way which is clearly over your 'head'.

> You are a dirty, sleazy, Baker-roshi pigfucker.

You're speaking about yourself, Max, love.

> Did you already know that serial music was nazi code? I bet you didn't.

Um, that was an urban legend.

> Also, what do you think of www.geocities.com/genius-2000/SFMOMA82700.html?

I have no thoughts.

> What do you think of albalux.com/g2k/pv? Also, what do you think of
> genius2000.net?

Nothing.

> Also, do provide a list of the wonderful masters that you think are capable
> of changing the world, what they are doing to achieve this, and be very
> specific.

No intentions–you're not that deserving.

> You also said it was important to have a "welding of man and machine,"

No, I didn't. I made a statement that if there is to be a non-damaging
symbiotic relationship between current technology and humans, it is to
occurr in the US. I didn't say it is a goal, nor did I use the term
*welding of man and machine*.

> which is a quite crapola sentiment or goal.

It isn't. It's perfectly valid, but I will not tell you why.

> You also said the USA is the only country

No, I said that they are most favorably capable of dealing with it.
Which is true. Like it or not.

> who can achieve this because Europe is "weak."

Europe is weak. wake up.

> I think you feel insignificant

I'm sure you *think*. You don't know how to think.
I feel perfectly fine, and no I don't suffer from your
self-pity.

> and your assistance is repulsive to me.

But of course.

> Therefore I am going to tumble you.

No, you aren't. You're going to talk crap,
and act like a bully. You'll likely even label that as some sort
of revolutionary taunting-strategy in your brain.

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Get out of my face Death and never ask a favor or respect from me again.

Who do you think you are? I never asked you for your respect.
Your 'respect' is worthless.

> You are banned from being on my side in any capacity.

I don't take sides. I'm banned? I think I refused your side recently.

> I look upon you as worthless garbage.

Ok, Breton.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Which you are.

No, sorry, i am not a 'preacher'. I haven't preached anything.


> I detest your effete Russophilic mysticism.

Uh, sorry. There is no *Russophillic mysticism* here.

> You are like Rasputin, a sickening freak of your own creation.

All freaks are of their own creation, baby.
As for Rasputin, he's nothing that you understand.
Just like british poetry.

> Yes keep saying that if you like to. "Max Herman is a petty preacher and
> Genius 2000 is his sermon."

Not a matter of liking. It's what you are.

> However, you have exhausted my goodwill

Chuckle. You have no goodwill.

> and now I have you on my list for neutralization.

Yes you bully all who don't rally under G2K.
Tell us something new.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist] wrote:

> Is that the best comeback you have?

For you, yes.

> Thought you might give a little fun.

No such intention.

> Try creativity when you get a chance.

I am creative when appropriate. This is not one of those moments.
I am interested in precision, that is all.

> Ridicule only works when it is funny and creative.

Apply this to yourself, love. I am not 'ridiculing'.
Nor is ridicule ever 'creative'.

> Talk to you later, much later.

You hurt my feelings. You think you're that important,
that talk to you later, much later is meaningful?

Fluently English!Is that what you want?
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Death, you have to answer the question, what do you think about it?
>
> I don't 'have' to answer the question.
>
> > You are just lying if you say you have no thoughts on it.
>
> No, I am not. I have no thoughts whatsoever.
>
> > A coward avoiding the question.
>
> Not at all. I simply have no thoughts.
>
>
> > Look at the url. Your egoless mind sees absolutely nothing?
>
> What my mind sees is for me to know. I am not obliged to tell you what
> it is. I'm not even obliged to convert it to thoughts.
>
> > Do you think the url is good or bad?
>
> I have no thoughts on the matter.
>
> > Go and watch the Nader video.
>
> No.
>
> > Your ricketty tinny consciousness sees nothing?
>
> My consciousness is neither ricketty, nor tinny.
> You're being a pathetic bully.
>
> > I think you confuse loveless stagnation
>
> Babe, that'd be you. I am hardly loveless,
> and hardly stagnant.
>
> > and cowardly self-justification with enlightenment.
>
> My dear. You just described yourself.
> Baby, you're not authority on enlightement.
> You're–again–a perfect example of a dictatorial ape,
> as it emerges in an atmosphere of a lack of actual
> valid spiritual connection.
>
>
> > I will be finding many more questions for you.
>
> Good for you.
>
> > You of course are too cowardly to answer.
>
> I don't owe you any answers. Cowardice hasn't got anything to do for
> you. And since you're making references towards the Q & A which I do,
> those were intended ina way which is clearly over your 'head'.
>
> > You are a dirty, sleazy, Baker-roshi pigfucker.
>
> You're speaking about yourself, Max, love.
>
> > Did you already know that serial music was nazi code? I bet you didn't.
>
> Um, that was an urban legend.
>
> > Also, what do you think of
www.geocities.com/genius-2000/SFMOMA82700.html?
>
> I have no thoughts.
>
> > What do you think of albalux.com/g2k/pv? Also, what do you think of
> > genius2000.net?
>
> Nothing.
>
> > Also, do provide a list of the wonderful masters that you think are
capable
> > of changing the world, what they are doing to achieve this, and be very
> > specific.
>
> No intentions–you're not that deserving.
>
> > You also said it was important to have a "welding of man and machine,"
>
> No, I didn't. I made a statement that if there is to be a non-damaging
> symbiotic relationship between current technology and humans, it is to
> occurr in the US. I didn't say it is a goal, nor did I use the term
> *welding of man and machine*.
>
> > which is a quite crapola sentiment or goal.
>
> It isn't. It's perfectly valid, but I will not tell you why.
>
> > You also said the USA is the only country
>
> No, I said that they are most favorably capable of dealing with it.
> Which is true. Like it or not.
>
> > who can achieve this because Europe is "weak."
>
> Europe is weak. wake up.
>
> > I think you feel insignificant
>
> I'm sure you *think*. You don't know how to think.
> I feel perfectly fine, and no I don't suffer from your
> self-pity.
>
> > and your assistance is repulsive to me.
>
> But of course.
>
> > Therefore I am going to tumble you.
>
> No, you aren't. You're going to talk crap,
> and act like a bully. You'll likely even label that as some sort
> of revolutionary taunting-strategy in your brain.
>
>
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
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Pathetic idiot!
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From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > You sound just like a dirty kulak or degenerate mobster.
>
> No, I don't. And either are only characters you've read about,
> and never met.
>
> > Here is you:
>
> No, that isn't me, and hasn't got anything to do with me, Max.
> Nor are you qualified to make such judgements.
>
> > Oh man you have no illusions do you.
>
> No I do not.
>
> > Perhaps your Buddhism is not really Buddhism.
>
> I have no 'my Buddhism*. Buddhism is Buddhism.
> It's not my preferred mythological construct, but I understand it.
>
> > In fact I would venture that you are wound tighter and are more
> > arrogant than the hacks you say are everywhere.
>
> The hacks are_ everywhere. And you are one of them.
> And no, I'm extremely relaxed.
>
> > You are useless.
>
> That would be you. I_ am not useless.
>
> > Your comments were extremely weak and lame however.
>
> No, they weren't. They were precise and accurate.
>
> > You spelled "dissolution" wrong.
>
> I didn't. You're picking on typos.
>
> > I think you are frustrated that there aren't any more good teachers like
the one you had.
>
> I am not frustrated over anything, Max.
>
> > And you truly must realize this is why you are a dead ender.
>
> No, Max. In fact, I've clearly stated that these teacher structures
> are dissolved for a reason, and that this dissolution is necessary.
> And unlike you, I do understand why it was, and why it is no longer
> relevant.
>
> > You probably like Zhirinovsky,
>
> I don't like nor dislike. Not familiar with the personage.
>
> > and think that all your Russian boilerplate
>
> I have no russian Boilerplate.
>
> >(orchestration for dummies like 1812) is really great and underrated.
>
> The strict lord of Death bids them dance.
> Anyone who knew anything about anything.
>
> > Your understanding of development is truly Czarist and paltry.
>
> No, it isn't. And like most hacks, you're using cultural
> background to degrade and manipulate. Bravo.
>
> >> The last person to call me a control freak
>
> You are a control freak, Max.
>
> > was a vain, lying nymphomaniac.
>
> And I am not. You're still a control freak.
>
> > I am ranking you with her now.
>
> Yes, I'm sure you feel the need to lump and degrade people.
> It makes you 'feel better' and your ego expand.
>
> > You seem to find the USA's strength in its weapons and money.
>
> No, I don't. Nor have I ever stated that. The opposite, I've clarified
> that the US's strength is the population, as well as cultural
> structures, the loose grasp of genetic and cultural condition
> on the people involved. Avoid attempting to put words in my mouth I've
> never said, baby. And go peddle your idiological opportunist
> *America sucks* attitude elsewhere. It's cheap, stupid, and
> unintelligent.
>
> > Enjoy a hard return slap from me to you, a vestigial analyst.
>
> You'd like to do that, won't you? What a pity you can't even get close.
>
> > I don't have any of the ways, or the one way? Which is it? You are a
gross
> > and unpleasant being like Rasputin.
>
> Sorry baby. I'm nothing like Rasputin. Not that you even begin what
> Rasputin was.
>
> > Cockroach wine.
>
> Cheap sloganish attitude.
>
> > Do not ask me to treat you as friendly again.
>
> I've never asked you to be friendly. I don't care for your friendship.
> Good grief, you're self-important.
>
> > Your truths are of the lowest order.
>
> Sorry–quite the reverse. Nor are you a qualified judge of
> the order of Truths.
>
> So, why don't you froth a bit more?
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
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On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> You are an idiot nonpareil.

Hardly.

> The matter is the eminent falshood of your attributions to Zen mastery.

No, it isn't.

> Your Iaido is little more than pumping iron and self-mortification.

That is iaijutsu. You know nothing of Iaido. There's no
'pumping iron' involved nor self-mortification.
Pathetic. You peddle your idiotic opinions on any issue
you know nothing about.

> No wonder you blame

I don't blame.

> all problems on people not

What are you talking about dear? I have no problems.
You're the one with the problems. THEM. Changing the World.
Saving humanity.

> doing what you did. I have met a hundred chumps like you.

You're talking about yourself Max. You're the one 'pumping iron'
and harrasing people for not buying G2K: I certainly do not
advocate that people do what I do, moreso I've stated clearly
that most are not fit or qualified for it. I have no problem
with that either.

> I think you are extremely punchy.

You can't think.

> You are corrupt but you smell it not.

Hardly. You simply don't care to hear the truth about yourself.

> You disgust me.

Tsk. You'll make yourself sick, baby.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> You sound just like a dirty kulak or degenerate mobster.

No, I don't. And either are only characters you've read about,
and never met.

> Here is you:

No, that isn't me, and hasn't got anything to do with me, Max.
Nor are you qualified to make such judgements.

> Oh man you have no illusions do you.

No I do not.

> Perhaps your Buddhism is not really Buddhism.

I have no 'my Buddhism*. Buddhism is Buddhism.
It's not my preferred mythological construct, but I understand it.

> In fact I would venture that you are wound tighter and are more
> arrogant than the hacks you say are everywhere.

The hacks are_ everywhere. And you are one of them.
And no, I'm extremely relaxed.

> You are useless.

That would be you. I_ am not useless.

> Your comments were extremely weak and lame however.

No, they weren't. They were precise and accurate.

> You spelled "dissolution" wrong.

I didn't. You're picking on typos.

> I think you are frustrated that there aren't any more good teachers like the one you had.

I am not frustrated over anything, Max.

> And you truly must realize this is why you are a dead ender.

No, Max. In fact, I've clearly stated that these teacher structures
are dissolved for a reason, and that this dissolution is necessary.
And unlike you, I do understand why it was, and why it is no longer
relevant.

> You probably like Zhirinovsky,

I don't like nor dislike. Not familiar with the personage.

> and think that all your Russian boilerplate

I have no russian Boilerplate.

>(orchestration for dummies like 1812) is really great and underrated.

The strict lord of Death bids them dance.
Anyone who knew anything about anything.

> Your understanding of development is truly Czarist and paltry.

No, it isn't. And like most hacks, you're using cultural
background to degrade and manipulate. Bravo.

>> The last person to call me a control freak

You are a control freak, Max.

> was a vain, lying nymphomaniac.

And I am not. You're still a control freak.

> I am ranking you with her now.

Yes, I'm sure you feel the need to lump and degrade people.
It makes you 'feel better' and your ego expand.

> You seem to find the USA's strength in its weapons and money.

No, I don't. Nor have I ever stated that. The opposite, I've clarified
that the US's strength is the population, as well as cultural
structures, the loose grasp of genetic and cultural condition
on the people involved. Avoid attempting to put words in my mouth I've
never said, baby. And go peddle your idiological opportunist
*America sucks* attitude elsewhere. It's cheap, stupid, and
unintelligent.

> Enjoy a hard return slap from me to you, a vestigial analyst.

You'd like to do that, won't you? What a pity you can't even get close.

> I don't have any of the ways, or the one way? Which is it? You are a gross
> and unpleasant being like Rasputin.

Sorry baby. I'm nothing like Rasputin. Not that you even begin what
Rasputin was.

> Cockroach wine.

Cheap sloganish attitude.

> Do not ask me to treat you as friendly again.

I've never asked you to be friendly. I don't care for your friendship.
Good grief, you're self-important.

> Your truths are of the lowest order.

Sorry–quite the reverse. Nor are you a qualified judge of
the order of Truths.

So, why don't you froth a bit more?

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> This reminds me of why you are worthless:

I am not worthless, however you are. And you will remain so,
until you change your attitude. And your behavior will continue
to be the source for wars.

As for your paragraph about other people,
it's not relevant to me. Nobody is *like* other people.

And please avoid sticking your hands in things you know
nothing about, such as Iaido, and Zen.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>To: Max Herman <[email protected]>
>CC: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 03:31:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Get out of my face Death and never ask a favor or respect from me again.
>
> Who do you think you are? I never asked you for your respect.
> Your 'respect' is worthless.

I'm just saying, don't ask me for it again. I think you are a dirty liar
and sickening monster of bad dreams. I'm Max Herman. You asked me to
listen to your wisdom respectfully. Now you will have to coerce my respect,
and even then, I will die insulting you while you torture me with your
Rasputin lies and other coercive tactics.

>
> > You are banned from being on my side in any capacity.
>
> I don't take sides.

Oh really, big fuckin deal. Mr. Independent. Only sociopaths talk like
you. Plus you are attacking what I have already achieved, and undermining
my ability to achieve more, so I have to consider you dangerous and
poisonous.

>I'm banned? I think I refused your side recently.

Yeah but now you're banned even if you change your mind. You're unreliable
and untrustworthy. You are a dirty predatory liar. You won't get a chance
to refuse it again. You're fired. Maybe one day I'll be egoless and
successful and you'll want a favor and I'll say "hey fuck you bitch."

>
> > I look upon you as worthless garbage.
>
> Ok, Breton.

Who's Breton? Like I could give a fuck. "Karei Kandinskij Death42; told
Max Herman he was an egotistical bully who only made things worse by trying
to pimp other people into buying G2K."

But I guess you want to keep it ongoing, so yeah now I got one more punk-ass
slasher to look out for. "Beatles? White Album? Revolution?"

>
>`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42 Is a dirty frontin' liar. He did
>say "welding of machine and man." He's a pig.




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>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>To: Max Herman <[email protected]>
>CC: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 03:33:59 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Which you are.
>
> No, sorry, i am not a 'preacher'. I haven't preached anything.

Yes you have, you dirty liar! You just like to think you're not a preacher.

>
>
> > I detest your effete Russophilic mysticism.
>
> Uh, sorry. There is no *Russophillic mysticism* here.

Yes there is you lying sack of turnips. You said "welding of machine and
man."

>
> > You are like Rasputin, a sickening freak of your own creation.
>
> All freaks are of their own creation, baby.
> As for Rasputin, he's nothing that you understand.

You don't understand anything, just your own filthy lies and postures.

> Just like british poetry.

Yeah you're right I don't understand British/English poetry. Fact is,
you're a sleazy liar and would say anything to appear honest and
knowledgable.

>
> > Yes keep saying that if you like to. "Max Herman is a petty preacher
>and
> > Genius 2000 is his sermon."
>
> Not a matter of liking. It's what you are.

OK, you don't like to say it, you don't dislike it, but you choose to say
"Max Herman is a petty preacher and Genius 2000 is his bullying sermon of
crap." I just want to be accurate and methodical so you can't come steppin'
later and say "Oh I never said 'Max Herman is a petty preacher.'"

Because we all know you are denying you said "welding of machine and man can
only come from the US." Because you lie, lie, lie. You're a liar.

>
> > However, you have exhausted my goodwill
>
> Chuckle. You have no goodwill.

Chuckle. Yes I do.

>
> > and now I have you on my list for neutralization.
>
> Yes you bully all who don't rally under G2K.
> Tell us something new.

Well, what's new is that you are dirty liar who I will neutralize by
confirming that you are in fact a liar who said "welding of machine and man
can only come from the US, because Europe is weak."

>
>`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42 Is an ignorant liar




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On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> I'm just saying, don't ask me for it again.

I never asked for it to begin with.

> I think you are a dirty liar

You can't think. And–there are no lies.

> and sickening monster of bad dreams.

No, don't like your unconsciousness? I'm shocked.

> I'm Max Herman.

No. max Herman is a tag.

> You asked me to listen to your wisdom respectfully.

I didn't.

> Now you will have to coerce my respect,

I don't care for your respect, max–you're not capable of it.
Nor do I 'coerce' people, unlike you.


> and even then, I will die insulting you while you torture me with your
> Rasputin lies and other coercive tactics.

Excellent. I love martyrs.

> Oh really, big fuckin deal. Mr. Independent.

Slighting remarks.

> Only sociopaths talk like you.

Absolutely not.

> Plus you are attacking what I have already achieved,

You haven't achieved anything.

> and undermining my ability to achieve more,

Sniff.

> so I have to consider you dangerous and poisonous.

Right. Nothing to threaten the fragile ego.

> >I'm banned? I think I refused your side recently.
>
> Yeah but now you're banned even if you change your mind.

I don't intend to change my mind. I like it fine as it is.

> You're unreliable and untrustworthy.

Sorry. I am perfectly reliable and trustworthy.
I simply don't intend to play your game. Nor have I
offered any services to you, so that you'd know
whether I am reliable and trustworthy. You simply
want people following your orders.

> You are a dirty predatory liar.

I am not a liar. Nothing wrong with being predatory.
The Universe is predatory–wake up, rabbit.

> You won't get a chance to refuse it again. You're fired.

Sorry. You don't 'own' or 'employ' me so you cannot 'fire me'.

> Maybe one day I'll be egoless and
> successful and you'll want a favor and I'll say "hey fuck you bitch."

Yeah. Especially when you're 'egoless'.

> > Ok, Breton.
>
> Who's Breton? Like I could give a fuck.

<laughing> Not important, love.

"Karei Kandinskij Death42; told
> Max Herman he was an egotistical bully who only made things worse by trying
> to pimp other people into buying G2K."

That's how it is, Max.

> But I guess you want to keep it ongoing, so yeah now I got one more punk-ass
> slasher to look out for.

Babe, the punkass slasher is you.

> >`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42 Is a dirty frontin' liar.

Not at all.

> He did say "welding of machine and man."

Nope.

> He's a pig.

You're childish and imbecillXic.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Yes you have, you dirty liar!

No, I haven't.

> You just like to think you're not a preacher.

Not at all.


> Yes there is you lying sack of turnips. You said "welding of machine and
> man."

No, dear. I didn't. You're pathetic.

> You don't understand anything,

I understand a great deal.

> just your own filthy lies and postures.

The only one lying here is you Max. And posturing as well.


> > Just like british poetry.
>
> Yeah you're right I don't understand British/English poetry. Fact is,
> you're a sleazy liar and would say anything to appear honest and
> knowledgable.

Not at all. I am honest, and I am quite knowledgeable.
And that is not subject to your opinion.

> OK, you don't like to say it,

I neither like nor dislike.

> you don't dislike it, but you choose to say "Max Herman is a petty preacher and Genius 2000 is his bullying sermon of
> crap."

And so it is.

> I just want to be accurate and methodical so you can't come steppin'
> later and say "Oh I never said 'Max Herman is a petty preacher.'"

Not likely that I'll do that.

> Because we all know you are denying you said "welding of machine and man can
> only come from the US." Because you lie, lie, lie. You're a liar.

Sorry, max. I said nothing of the sort. You're simply slandering.

> Chuckle. Yes I do.

Nope. You haven't an ounce of 'good' or 'will'.

> Well, what's new is that you are dirty liar

Sorry, max. I am not a liar.

> who I will neutralize by confirming that you are in fact a liar who said "welding of machine and man

I never said that phrase.

> can only come from the US, because Europe is weak."

Nor did I make a causal relationship between these two statements.

> >`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42 Is an ignorant liar

Not at all. You're an idiotic bully Max.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Holy shit! I peek in, while on a trip, what do I see? A incarnation of
mortality claiming to be an incarnation of immortality playing "I know you are,
but what am I?" games with Max.

Children should be seen and not heard.

ZEN and GOD are just three letter words to fight fear. It is all majik
formulas u c.

–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist] wrote:

> Holy shit! I peek in, while on a trip, what do I see? A incarnation of
> mortality claiming to be an incarnation of immortality playing "I know you are,
> but what am I?" games with Max.

Right.

> Children should be seen and not heard.

Speak about yourself, love.

> ZEN and GOD are just three letter words to fight fear.

What fear my dear?

> It is all majik formulas u c.

That would seem applicable to your use of [lang]uij.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

>
> Speak about yourself, love.
>

You love me? Oh my god, I just told my wife and she got so jealous. We decided
to invite you over for dinner to see if you would fit in our little family.
But then, we remembered, when you chew your fingers to the bone, what do you
get, boney fingers. We don't like boney fingers, and as a death head I am sure
yours are much too thin for us.

> What fear my dear?

Are you shining headlights into my face and hoping I freeze so you can shoot
me? That was a good question from a dead head.

>
> That would seem applicable to your use of [lang]uij.
>

Pretty much mine, yours, and Theodore's. Though some mix the chemicals better,
drop less tubes, and don't cause explosions.

–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

You are Max without Genius!
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > This reminds me of why you are worthless:
>
> I am not worthless, however you are. And you will remain so,
> until you change your attitude. And your behavior will continue
> to be the source for wars.
>
> As for your paragraph about other people,
> it's not relevant to me. Nobody is *like* other people.
>
> And please avoid sticking your hands in things you know
> nothing about, such as Iaido, and Zen.
>
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
> -> post: [email protected]
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>

Jeb svaju mat!
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > I'm just saying, don't ask me for it again.
>
> I never asked for it to begin with.
>
> > I think you are a dirty liar
>
> You can't think. And–there are no lies.
>
> > and sickening monster of bad dreams.
>
> No, don't like your unconsciousness? I'm shocked.
>
> > I'm Max Herman.
>
> No. max Herman is a tag.
>
> > You asked me to listen to your wisdom respectfully.
>
> I didn't.
>
> > Now you will have to coerce my respect,
>
> I don't care for your respect, max–you're not capable of it.
> Nor do I 'coerce' people, unlike you.
>
>
> > and even then, I will die insulting you while you torture me with your
> > Rasputin lies and other coercive tactics.
>
> Excellent. I love martyrs.
>
> > Oh really, big fuckin deal. Mr. Independent.
>
> Slighting remarks.
>
> > Only sociopaths talk like you.
>
> Absolutely not.
>
> > Plus you are attacking what I have already achieved,
>
> You haven't achieved anything.
>
> > and undermining my ability to achieve more,
>
> Sniff.
>
> > so I have to consider you dangerous and poisonous.
>
> Right. Nothing to threaten the fragile ego.
>
> > >I'm banned? I think I refused your side recently.
> >
> > Yeah but now you're banned even if you change your mind.
>
> I don't intend to change my mind. I like it fine as it is.
>
> > You're unreliable and untrustworthy.
>
> Sorry. I am perfectly reliable and trustworthy.
> I simply don't intend to play your game. Nor have I
> offered any services to you, so that you'd know
> whether I am reliable and trustworthy. You simply
> want people following your orders.
>
> > You are a dirty predatory liar.
>
> I am not a liar. Nothing wrong with being predatory.
> The Universe is predatory–wake up, rabbit.
>
> > You won't get a chance to refuse it again. You're fired.
>
> Sorry. You don't 'own' or 'employ' me so you cannot 'fire me'.
>
> > Maybe one day I'll be egoless and
> > successful and you'll want a favor and I'll say "hey fuck you bitch."
>
> Yeah. Especially when you're 'egoless'.
>
> > > Ok, Breton.
> >
> > Who's Breton? Like I could give a fuck.
>
> <laughing> Not important, love.
>
> "Karei Kandinskij Death42; told
> > Max Herman he was an egotistical bully who only made things worse by
trying
> > to pimp other people into buying G2K."
>
> That's how it is, Max.
>
> > But I guess you want to keep it ongoing, so yeah now I got one more
punk-ass
> > slasher to look out for.
>
> Babe, the punkass slasher is you.
>
> > >`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42 Is a dirty frontin' liar.
>
> Not at all.
>
> > He did say "welding of machine and man."
>
> Nope.
>
> > He's a pig.
>
> You're childish and imbecillXic.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
> -> post: [email protected]
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What do you meen where you are?About 500 persons is there.What's your
ambicion?To show someboby what hawe you learn in your pathethic
life?Go&live,dead slawe!
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Yes you have, you dirty liar!
>
> No, I haven't.
>
> > You just like to think you're not a preacher.
>
> Not at all.
>
>
> > Yes there is you lying sack of turnips. You said "welding of machine
and
> > man."
>
> No, dear. I didn't. You're pathetic.
>
> > You don't understand anything,
>
> I understand a great deal.
>
> > just your own filthy lies and postures.
>
> The only one lying here is you Max. And posturing as well.
>
>
> > > Just like british poetry.
> >
> > Yeah you're right I don't understand British/English poetry. Fact is,
> > you're a sleazy liar and would say anything to appear honest and
> > knowledgable.
>
> Not at all. I am honest, and I am quite knowledgeable.
> And that is not subject to your opinion.
>
> > OK, you don't like to say it,
>
> I neither like nor dislike.
>
> > you don't dislike it, but you choose to say "Max Herman is a petty
preacher and Genius 2000 is his bullying sermon of
> > crap."
>
> And so it is.
>
> > I just want to be accurate and methodical so you can't come steppin'
> > later and say "Oh I never said 'Max Herman is a petty preacher.'"
>
> Not likely that I'll do that.
>
> > Because we all know you are denying you said "welding of machine and man
can
> > only come from the US." Because you lie, lie, lie. You're a liar.
>
> Sorry, max. I said nothing of the sort. You're simply slandering.
>
> > Chuckle. Yes I do.
>
> Nope. You haven't an ounce of 'good' or 'will'.
>
> > Well, what's new is that you are dirty liar
>
> Sorry, max. I am not a liar.
>
> > who I will neutralize by confirming that you are in fact a liar who
said "welding of machine and man
>
> I never said that phrase.
>
> > can only come from the US, because Europe is weak."
>
> Nor did I make a causal relationship between these two statements.
>
> > >`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42 Is an ignorant liar
>
> Not at all. You're an idiotic bully Max.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
> -> post: [email protected]
> -> questions: [email protected]
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>
>

Learn to be pusy,because you know that you are one.Jeb svaju mat!
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
<[email protected]>
Cc: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance]
Art[ist] wrote:
>
> > Holy shit! I peek in, while on a trip, what do I see? A incarnation of
> > mortality claiming to be an incarnation of immortality playing "I know
you are,
> > but what am I?" games with Max.
>
> Right.
>
> > Children should be seen and not heard.
>
> Speak about yourself, love.
>
> > ZEN and GOD are just three letter words to fight fear.
>
> What fear my dear?
>
> > It is all majik formulas u c.
>
> That would seem applicable to your use of [lang]uij.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
> -> post: [email protected]
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>

Wake up Max.
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
<[email protected]>
Cc: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance]
Art[ist] wrote:
>
> > You love me? Oh my god, I just told my wife and she got so jealous.
>
> What a pity.
>
> > We decided to invite you over for dinner to see if you would fit in our
little family.
>
> Thanks, but Ill have to decline.
>
> > But then, we remembered, when you chew your fingers to the bone, what do
you
> > get, boney fingers.
>
> Right. How clever of both of you.
>
> > We don't like boney fingers, and as a death head I am sure yours are
much too thin for us.
>
> Most certainly.
>
> > Are you shining headlights into my face and hoping I freeze so you can
shoot
> > me? That was a good question from a dead head.
>
> Ne. You're simply knee-jerking.
>
> > Pretty much mine, yours, and Theodore's.
>
> Ne.
>
> > Though some mix the chemicals better,
> > drop less tubes, and don't cause explosions.
>
> Maybe you should take cue from them?
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
> -> post: [email protected]
> -> questions: [email protected]
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>
>

Because he want to bee only one on Rhizom.
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
<[email protected]>
Cc: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance]
Art[ist] wrote:
>
> > Is that the best comeback you have?
>
> For you, yes.
>
> > Thought you might give a little fun.
>
> No such intention.
>
> > Try creativity when you get a chance.
>
> I am creative when appropriate. This is not one of those moments.
> I am interested in precision, that is all.
>
> > Ridicule only works when it is funny and creative.
>
> Apply this to yourself, love. I am not 'ridiculing'.
> Nor is ridicule ever 'creative'.
>
> > Talk to you later, much later.
>
> You hurt my feelings. You think you're that important,
> that talk to you later, much later is meaningful?
>
>
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
> -> post: [email protected]
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>

==> Je vous demande de vous arreter !!!!

big up to edouard balladur !!!!

bobig [artiste du dimanche et du soir apres le boulot]
http://www.bobig.com


—– Original Message —–
From: "manik" <[email protected]>
To: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>; "Max Herman"
<[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> Pathetic idiot!
> —– Original Message —–
> From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
> To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>
>
> > On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
> >
> > > You sound just like a dirty kulak or degenerate mobster.
> >
> > No, I don't. And either are only characters you've read about,
> > and never met.
> >
> > > Here is you:
> >
> > No, that isn't me, and hasn't got anything to do with me, Max.
> > Nor are you qualified to make such judgements.
> >
> > > Oh man you have no illusions do you.
> >
> > No I do not.
> >
> > > Perhaps your Buddhism is not really Buddhism.
> >
> > I have no 'my Buddhism*. Buddhism is Buddhism.
> > It's not my preferred mythological construct, but I understand it.
> >
> > > In fact I would venture that you are wound tighter and are more
> > > arrogant than the hacks you say are everywhere.
> >
> > The hacks are_ everywhere. And you are one of them.
> > And no, I'm extremely relaxed.
> >
> > > You are useless.
> >
> > That would be you. I_ am not useless.
> >
> > > Your comments were extremely weak and lame however.
> >
> > No, they weren't. They were precise and accurate.
> >
> > > You spelled "dissolution" wrong.
> >
> > I didn't. You're picking on typos.
> >
> > > I think you are frustrated that there aren't any more good teachers
like
> the one you had.
> >
> > I am not frustrated over anything, Max.
> >
> > > And you truly must realize this is why you are a dead ender.
> >
> > No, Max. In fact, I've clearly stated that these teacher structures
> > are dissolved for a reason, and that this dissolution is necessary.
> > And unlike you, I do understand why it was, and why it is no longer
> > relevant.
> >
> > > You probably like Zhirinovsky,
> >
> > I don't like nor dislike. Not familiar with the personage.
> >
> > > and think that all your Russian boilerplate
> >
> > I have no russian Boilerplate.
> >
> > >(orchestration for dummies like 1812) is really great and underrated.
> >
> > The strict lord of Death bids them dance.
> > Anyone who knew anything about anything.
> >
> > > Your understanding of development is truly Czarist and paltry.
> >
> > No, it isn't. And like most hacks, you're using cultural
> > background to degrade and manipulate. Bravo.
> >
> > >> The last person to call me a control freak
> >
> > You are a control freak, Max.
> >
> > > was a vain, lying nymphomaniac.
> >
> > And I am not. You're still a control freak.
> >
> > > I am ranking you with her now.
> >
> > Yes, I'm sure you feel the need to lump and degrade people.
> > It makes you 'feel better' and your ego expand.
> >
> > > You seem to find the USA's strength in its weapons and money.
> >
> > No, I don't. Nor have I ever stated that. The opposite, I've clarified
> > that the US's strength is the population, as well as cultural
> > structures, the loose grasp of genetic and cultural condition
> > on the people involved. Avoid attempting to put words in my mouth I've
> > never said, baby. And go peddle your idiological opportunist
> > *America sucks* attitude elsewhere. It's cheap, stupid, and
> > unintelligent.
> >
> > > Enjoy a hard return slap from me to you, a vestigial analyst.
> >
> > You'd like to do that, won't you? What a pity you can't even get
close.
> >
> > > I don't have any of the ways, or the one way? Which is it? You are a
> gross
> > > and unpleasant being like Rasputin.
> >
> > Sorry baby. I'm nothing like Rasputin. Not that you even begin what
> > Rasputin was.
> >
> > > Cockroach wine.
> >
> > Cheap sloganish attitude.
> >
> > > Do not ask me to treat you as friendly again.
> >
> > I've never asked you to be friendly. I don't care for your friendship.
> > Good grief, you're self-important.
> >
> > > Your truths are of the lowest order.
> >
> > Sorry–quite the reverse. Nor are you a qualified judge of
> > the order of Truths.
> >
> > So, why don't you froth a bit more?
> >
> > `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
> >
> > + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
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> >
>
>
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On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Fluently English!

That must be it. I guess you really read my posts.

Now won't you start on how I'm a capitalist English-enforcing-nazi?

It'll look nice to my illiterate-rich-NVKD-weaponsbuilding-Russian-
mafia-uniform.

> Is that what you want?

I think I stated clearly that I don't 'want' anything.
On numerous occasions.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Pathetic idiot!

You certainly are. Tell us something new.
k

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> You are Max without Genius!

I'm neither 'max' nor am I a 'genius' nor do I inspire towards
the achievement of such 'titles'. But you certainly lack a lot
in intellectual development if you think that I am Max.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Jeb svaju mat!

That's nice. Have an apple.
Tell us about your ego-less nationalistic knee-jerk attitude again.
What a shame for slowenian kultur.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> What do you meen where you are?

You can't read?

> About 500 persons is there.

And?

> What's your ambicion?

I don't suffer from false self-importance masquerading as 'ambition'.

> To show someboby what hawe you learn in your pathethic life?

I have no intention whatsoever of 'showing what I have learned'.
Secondly, my life is not pathetic–while yours likely is.

> Go&live,

Sorry babe. I have and I do. More than you'll ever know.

> dead slawe!

So what other slowenian propaganda is stuffed in your brain?

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Learn to be pusy,

No thanks. But feel free to follow your own advice.

> because you know that you are one.

I know nothing of the sort. Petty slowenian dictator.

> Jeb svaju mat!

Right.

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Because he want to bee only one on Rhizom. —– Original Message

No, I want total Slowenian domination :)

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Or this also Death:
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-bold-0009/msg00059.html


>From: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:25:18 -0500
>
>
>
>
>fluff2k
>
>by Max_Herman, 09.05.02 12:57 pm
>
>Maxherman: Have you ever seen a penis of a Baboon, or a Mandrill?
>well welchsonnyo,
>funny you should ask since not only have I seen one, I'm sucking lickin' on
>one now!
>Yep, me and Jesse Ventura's son Tyrel !
>
>OH is this thread not about my WWW.fluffer2000.org?
>yummy
>
>
>
>
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Also this Death:

http://www.darkzen.com/Articles/meansofauthorization.htm


>From: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:29:46 -0500
>
>
>
>Or this also Death:
>http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-bold-0009/msg00059.html
>
>
>>From: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>>Reply-To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: RHIZOME\_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>>Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:25:18 -0500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>fluff2k
>>
>>by Max\_Herman, 09.05.02 12:57 pm
>>
>>Maxherman: Have you ever seen a penis of a Baboon, or a Mandrill?
>>well welchsonnyo,
>>funny you should ask since not only have I seen one, I'm sucking lickin'
>>on one now!
>>Yep, me and Jesse Ventura's son Tyrel !
>>
>>OH is this thread not about my WWW.fluffer2000.org?
>>yummy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Here's another one Death:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/15221


>From: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected], [email protected]
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:57:46 -0500
>
>
>
>Also this Death:
>
>http://www.darkzen.com/Articles/meansofauthorization.htm
>
>
>>From: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>>Reply-To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>>Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:29:46 -0500
>>
>>
>>
>>Or this also Death:
>>http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-bold-0009/msg00059.html
>>
>>
>>>From: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>>>Reply-To: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: RHIZOME\_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>>>Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:25:18 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>fluff2k
>>>
>>>by Max\_Herman, 09.05.02 12:57 pm
>>>
>>>Maxherman: Have you ever seen a penis of a Baboon, or a Mandrill?
>>>well welchsonnyo,
>>>funny you should ask since not only have I seen one, I'm sucking lickin'
>>>on one now!
>>>Yep, me and Jesse Ventura's son Tyrel !
>>>
>>>OH is this thread not about my WWW.fluffer2000.org?
>>>yummy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-bold-0009/msg00059.html

None whatsoever. Thanks for asking.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> fluff2k
>
> by Max_Herman, 09.05.02 12:57 pm
>
> Maxherman: Have you ever seen a penis of a Baboon, or a Mandrill?
> well welchsonnyo,
> funny you should ask since not only have I seen one, I'm sucking lickin' on
> one now!
> Yep, me and Jesse Ventura's son Tyrel !
>
> OH is this thread not about my WWW.fluffer2000.org?
> yummy

Nope. Thanks for sharing. Curious if you've ever met or spoken to
Jesse Ventura, however.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Here's another one Death:
>
> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/15221

Certainly am familiar with contemporary 'business' pilfering of Zen.
New Age is a flourishing business in the States, and one that is
not very affected by 911. Exceptional money-making opportunities.

Contemporary US & North American perversions of various world religions,
philosophies, theories, and practices is not unfamiliar to me.
However, it's not Zen. Nor is the trendy Buddhism actually Buddhism.

I already commented on this: in the atmosphere of removal of
actual teachers, and dissolition of spiritual lines, there are all sorts
of hacks, and including the prevailing attitude of everyone being
a petty preacher.

G2K not an Exception.
Eryk Salvaggio also.

There are ways to 'save the human story' baby, but you don't have it.
`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist] wrote:

> You love me? Oh my god, I just told my wife and she got so jealous.

What a pity.

> We decided to invite you over for dinner to see if you would fit in our little family.

Thanks, but Ill have to decline.

> But then, we remembered, when you chew your fingers to the bone, what do you
> get, boney fingers.

Right. How clever of both of you.

> We don't like boney fingers, and as a death head I am sure yours are much too thin for us.

Most certainly.

> Are you shining headlights into my face and hoping I freeze so you can shoot
> me? That was a good question from a dead head.

Ne. You're simply knee-jerking.

> Pretty much mine, yours, and Theodore's.

Ne.

> Though some mix the chemicals better,
> drop less tubes, and don't cause explosions.

Maybe you should take cue from them?

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Death, you have to answer the question, what do you think about it?

You are just lying if you say you have no thoughts on it. A coward avoiding
the question.

Look at the url. Your egoless mind sees absolutely nothing? Do you think
the url is good or bad? Go and watch the Nader video. Your ricketty tinny
consciousness sees nothing?

I think you confuse loveless stagnation and cowardly self-justification with
enlightenment.

I will be finding many more questions for you. You of course are too
cowardly to answer. You are a dirty, sleazy, Baker-roshi pigfucker. Did
you already know that serial music was nazi code? I bet you didn't.

Also, what do you think of www.geocities.com/genius-2000/SFMOMA82700.html?

What do you think of albalux.com/g2k/pv? Also, what do you think of
genius2000.net?

Also, do provide a list of the wonderful masters that you think are capable
of changing the world, what they are doing to achieve this, and be very
specific.

You also said it was important to have a "welding of man and machine," which
is a quite crapola sentiment or goal. You also said the USA is the only
country who can achieve this because Europe is "weak."

I think you feel insignificant and your assistance is repulsive to me.

Therefore I am going to tumble you.

Max Herman

++


>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>To: Max Herman <[email protected]>
>CC: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 02:25:43 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> >
>http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-bold-0009/msg00059.html
>
>None whatsoever. Thanks for asking.
>
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Get out of my face Death and never ask a favor or respect from me again.
You are banned from being on my side in any capacity. I look upon you as
worthless garbage.




>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>To: Max Herman <[email protected]>
>CC: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 02:26:56 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > fluff2k
> >
> > by Max_Herman, 09.05.02 12:57 pm
> >
> > Maxherman: Have you ever seen a penis of a Baboon, or a Mandrill?
> > well welchsonnyo,
> > funny you should ask since not only have I seen one, I'm sucking lickin'
>on
> > one now!
> > Yep, me and Jesse Ventura's son Tyrel !
> >
> > OH is this thread not about my WWW.fluffer2000.org?
> > yummy
>
> Nope. Thanks for sharing. Curious if you've ever met or spoken to
> Jesse Ventura, however.
>
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Is that the best comeback you have? Thought you might give a little fun. Try
creativity when you get a chance. Ridicule only works when it is funny and
creative. Talk to you later, much later.

–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

> >
> > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/15221
>
>I already commented on this: in the atmosphere of removal of
>actual teachers, and dissolition of spiritual lines, there are all sorts
>of hacks, and including the prevailing attitude of everyone being
>a petty preacher.

Which you are. I detest your effete Russophilic mysticism. You are like
Rasputin, a sickening freak of your own creation.

>
>G2K not an Exception.
>Eryk Salvaggio also.

Yes keep saying that if you like to. "Max Herman is a petty preacher and
Genius 2000 is his sermon."

However, you have exhausted my goodwill and now I have you on my list for
neutralization.

>
>There are ways to 'save the human story' baby, but you don't have it.
>`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

"It" or "them"? You are just throwing popcorn at me because you wish you
were in the Stanley Cup. I sense that you are nearing burnout as well, like
your dumb-ass friend who spent 20 months in a deprivation tank or whatever
it is your imperious ilk find groundbreaking.

Your ingratiating behavior will no longer be tolerated.

Max Herman

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>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>To: Max Herman <[email protected]>
>CC: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 02:33:16 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Here's another one Death:
> >
> > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/15221
>
>Certainly am familiar with contemporary 'business' pilfering of Zen.
>New Age is a flourishing business in the States, and one that is
>not very affected by 911. Exceptional money-making opportunities.

You are an idiot nonpareil. The matter is the eminent falshood of your
attributions to Zen mastery. Your Iaido is little more than pumping iron
and self-mortification. No wonder you blame all problems on people not
doing what you did. I have met a hundred chumps like you.

I think you are extremely punchy. You are corrupt but you smell it not.
You disgust me.

Max Herman

++

>
>Contemporary US & North American perversions of various world religions,
>philosophies, theories, and practices is not unfamiliar to me.
>However, it's not Zen. Nor is the trendy Buddhism actually Buddhism.
>
>I already commented on this: in the atmosphere of removal of
>actual teachers, and dissolition of spiritual lines, there are all sorts
>of hacks, and including the prevailing attitude of everyone being
>a petty preacher.
>
>G2K not an Exception.
>Eryk Salvaggio also.
>
>There are ways to 'save the human story' baby, but you don't have it.

I don't have one of them or all of them, or is it only one, your Iaido?
Please shove some turnips in your ass and meditate on them.

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Also this Death:
>
> http://www.darkzen.com/Articles/meansofauthorization.htm

No comments.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
>To: Max Herman <[email protected]>
>CC: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?
>Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 02:33:16 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Here's another one Death:
> >
> > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/15221
>
>Certainly am familiar with contemporary 'business' pilfering of Zen.
>New Age is a flourishing business in the States, and one that is
>not very affected by 911. Exceptional money-making opportunities.

You sound just like a dirty kulak or degenerate mobster. Here is you:

Starting in 1983, everyone at Zen Center suddenly wanted to air
long-standing grievances against Richard Baker. His serial liaisons, hardly
unique in the world of high-level American Buddhism, could have been
forgiven, but his chronic untruthfulness about them could not.[3] Nor could
the fact that he had wielded the abbot's corrective stick on students who
were sometimes guilty of nothing more than flirting with one another. As one
of his ex-lovers put it to Downing, "Dick was physically punishing students
for behavior that was his for his entire life as a Zen practitioner.
Essentially, I am above the rules. The rules for you do not apply to me."

A key instrument of progress in the study of Zen is dokusan, or the private
conference with the master. Typically, it is concerned only with identifying
errors in practice and challenging the student to keep on the path of
enlightenment. In the years after Baker took over in 1971, however, dokusans
at Zen Center gradually became more intimate and less private. Students
found that the abbot was leaking their confessions to his inner circle, and
some of them inferred that he was collecting evidence that might be used
against them later. They also sensed that Baker enjoyed humbling them by
scoffing at their professed spiritual gains and thwarting their ambition to
advance on the priestly ladder. "There was always this confusion," said one.
"Is this Zen practice, or is this just a power trip?" Another aggrieved
party reports that Baker used dokusan sessions to convince him that he was
incompatible with his wife

Max,dont be a shame because you are what you are.It's not so bad to be
Genius.
Dont go!
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "manik" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:
>
> > You are Max without Genius!
>
> I'm neither 'max' nor am I a 'genius' nor do I inspire towards
> the achievement of such 'titles'. But you certainly lack a lot
> in intellectual development if you think that I am Max.
>
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
>
>

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Oh,sory Phyrro!

I am not Phyrro.

> Sexstus Empiricus

Wow. You can quote Latin.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Max wrote:
> You certainly are.Tell us something new.

I am not Max, you idiotic imbecile.

> MANIK wrote:
> New!

Could you say that in latin too?

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

I like your stile.Actualy,Max,you are Genius.Now I know that.
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "manik" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
<[email protected]>; "Max Herman" <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:
>
> > Learn to be pusy,
>
> No thanks. But feel free to follow your own advice.
>
> > because you know that you are one.
>
> I know nothing of the sort. Petty slowenian dictator.
>
> > Jeb svaju mat!
>
> Right.
>
>
>
>

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Max,dont be a shame because you are what you are.It's not so bad to be
> Genius.

My genius is only secondary and in service to your genius.
Isn't that the populist stance in Madame Slowenia?

> Dont go!

I don't see anyone leaving.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> No,Bamby,it's not an apple.It's kind of buterfly.Sex,anyway.

101%

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> No,Bamby,it's not a brain.It is an apple.

Right. Am I to take this that you find brains sexy?

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> I like your stile.Actualy,Max,you are Genius.Now I know that.

One behalf of max, I accept. And I sacrifice this.. to the people
of Slowenia!

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Yes,I read your post.With fingers on delete.
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "manik" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:
>
> > Fluently English!
>
> That must be it. I guess you really read my posts.
>
> Now won't you start on how I'm a capitalist English-enforcing-nazi?
>
> It'll look nice to my illiterate-rich-NVKD-weaponsbuilding-Russian-
> mafia-uniform.
>
> > Is that what you want?
>
> I think I stated clearly that I don't 'want' anything.
> On numerous occasions.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
>
>

Slovenia is nice litle country in Europe.Domi/nation?do that
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "manik" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
<[email protected]>; "Max Herman" <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:
>
> > Because he want to bee only one on Rhizom. —– Original Message
>
> No, I want total Slowenian domination :)
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
>
>

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Slovenia is nice litle country in Europe.Domi/nation?do that

Thanks. That was very educational. Tell us more about Slowenia.
Are you sure it's in Europe?


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

No,Bamby,it's not a brain.It is an apple.
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "manik" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:
>
> > What do you meen where you are?
>
> You can't read?
>
> > About 500 persons is there.
>
> And?
>
> > What's your ambicion?
>
> I don't suffer from false self-importance masquerading as 'ambition'.
>
> > To show someboby what hawe you learn in your pathethic life?
>
> I have no intention whatsoever of 'showing what I have learned'.
> Secondly, my life is not pathetic–while yours likely is.
>
> > Go&live,
>
> Sorry babe. I have and I do. More than you'll ever know.
>
> > dead slawe!
>
> So what other slowenian propaganda is stuffed in your brain?
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
>
>

Oh,sory Phyrro!
Sexstus Empiricus
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "manik" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:
>
> > Fluently English!
>
> That must be it. I guess you really read my posts.
>
> Now won't you start on how I'm a capitalist English-enforcing-nazi?
>
> It'll look nice to my illiterate-rich-NVKD-weaponsbuilding-Russian-
> mafia-uniform.
>
> > Is that what you want?
>
> I think I stated clearly that I don't 'want' anything.
> On numerous occasions.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
> -> post: [email protected]
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>
>

Max wrote:
You certainly are.Tell us something new.
MANIK wrote:
New!
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "manik" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:
>
> > Pathetic idiot!
>
> You certainly are. Tell us something new.
> k
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
> -> post: [email protected]
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>
>

No,Bamby,it's not an apple.It's kind of buterfly.Sex,anyway.
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "manik" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Max Herman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:
>
> > Jeb svaju mat!
>
> That's nice. Have an apple.
> Tell us about your ego-less nationalistic knee-jerk attitude again.
> What a shame for slowenian kultur.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
>
>

No,Bamby,there's no total Slowenian.It's only you.All world of words is
yours.
—– Original Message —–
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>
To: "manik" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
<[email protected]>; "Max Herman" <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?


> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, manik wrote:
>
> > Because he want to bee only one on Rhizom. —– Original Message
>
> No, I want total Slowenian domination :)
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
> -> post: [email protected]
> -> questions: [email protected]
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>
>

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> Yes,I read your post.With fingers on delete.

You heart my feelings, really.
It's up to you whether you want to read them or not–
I've no problem with that.
But if you're going to make commentaries about what I write,
yes, I do have a right to expect you to READ it first.

Twit.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, manik wrote:

> No,Bamby,there's no total Slowenian.

No?

> It's only you.

Yep–didn't we go over that already.
I'm the epitome of Slowenian kultur.

> All world of words is yours.

Right–that's what all my posts have been about.
But wait–you don't read them.

Arr. Don't you feel just lovely running around trying to
stab people –and unduly at that?

Such a peaceful, lovable personage(s).
Tell us about love, peace, and creativity again.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance]
> Art[ist] wrote:
>
> > Is that the best comeback you have?
>
> For you, yes.

Oh my poor skewered heart. For you, yes he says in a slow ponderous superior
style. Ah, such a precise angle of the nose and head. he he he

>
> > Thought you might give a little fun.
>
> No such intention.

Never wondered if you had such, I take fun where I find it big brain.

>
> > Try creativity when you get a chance.
>
> I am creative when appropriate. This is not one of those moments.
> I am interested in precision, that is all.

So far, have seen neither, nor know of the latter. How do you measure the
coast of Britain?

>
> > Ridicule only works when it is funny and creative.
>
> Apply this to yourself, love. I am not 'ridiculing'.
> Nor is ridicule ever 'creative'.

Ha Ha Ha

>
> > Talk to you later, much later.
>
> You hurt my feelings. You think you're that important,
> that talk to you later, much later is meaningful?

Are you so insecure as to assume this was aimed at you or an actual description
of when I would get back? Don't worry so much babe.


–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:
>
> > Though some mix the chemicals better,
> > drop less tubes, and don't cause explosions.
>
> Maybe you should take cue from them?
>

As in read my lines? Perhaps I should get a clue Einstien.


–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist] wrote:

> which you co-star in both.

No, you don't: your heart is asleep.
And I don't.


> Puddly poo, I love you.

You don't–and apparently you can't perceive
being called 'love' without sarcasm.

> dress?

More cardboard cutouts snipped.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist] wrote:

> People who love me don't call me idiot (well most of the time they
> don't).

Yes, and love is unconditional acceptance, coddling your imbecilities,
sugar candy, and understanding is OK-aying of your imbecilities.

> Save your pious platitudes for the mass meetings.

I am not pious, babe. Nor do I 'have' any platitudes.
Wishful projection.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

> No, sweetheart. I don't 'miss' anything.
> You're simply convinced that your brain-verbal tricks are_ something.
> And they aren't. There simply isn't anything to understand.
> Must I write the same to you as I did before?
>
> Ok.
>
> Your idea of 'understanding' and 'listening' is a brain-game.
> Listening is when someone, like you, is victimized by the noise in your
> head. Understanding is yours abd others–being mesmerized by that same
> brain chatter.
>
> Like a dog chasing its tail / arse.
> Your idea of 'conversation' is others sniffing your arse and being
> delighted.

Yoda, do you have a light saber? You know me so well from a few emails? I
wonder who is listening to the noise in their head.
–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist] wrote:

> Oh my poor skewered heart. For you, yes he says in a slow ponderous superior
> style. Ah, such a precise angle of the nose and head. he he he

Internal projection.


> Never wondered if you had such, I take fun where I find it big brain.

Er–you're the one with the big brain. I've made no such claims, love.
Or used it more than is necessary–and that's not toooften.

> So far, have seen neither, nor know of the latter. How do you measure the
> coast of Britain?

Precision is not a matter of measurements.
Your pseudo-illiteracy is not convincing–you're jerking back
to pseudo-literate cardboard cutouts.

> Are you so insecure

No, I amnot insecure. But your abrogation of responsibility for what you
do with debasing attempt–is not news.

> Don't worry so much babe.

I am not 'worried' 'babe'. Don't ascribe your inner wishful thinking
to me. And be careful with your verbiage around me.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist] wrote:


> As in read my lines? Perhaps I should get a clue Einstien.

You fancy yourself to be Einstein?
Sorry to hear that.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

> > Oh my poor skewered heart. For you, yes he says in a slow ponderous
> superior
> > style. Ah, such a precise angle of the nose and head. he he he
>
> Internal projection.

I have a big movie projecter in my heart that plays tragedies and comedies, of
which you co-star in both.

> Never wondered if you had such, I take fun where I find it big brain.
>
> Er–you're the one with the big brain. I've made no such claims, love.
> Or used it more than is necessary–and that's not toooften.

Puddly poo, I love you.

>
> > So far, have seen neither, nor know of the latter. How do you measure the
> > coast of Britain?
>
> Precision is not a matter of measurements.
> Your pseudo-illiteracy is not convincing–you're jerking back
> to pseudo-literate cardboard cutouts.

I use them for target practice.

>
> I am not 'worried' 'babe'. Don't ascribe your inner wishful thinking
> to me. And be careful with your verbiage around me.

Are you the nanny who scolds people for using bad words? Do you wear a sexy
dress?

–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist] wrote:

> Yoda, do you have a light saber? You know me so well from a few emails? I
> wonder who is listening to the noise in their head.

You. And you're continuing with it too.
Do you actually think a Star wars cut-out is a
way to interact with people, or knee-jerk pointing fingers
is?

If I lift my finger–the monkey lifts it back.
Mimickry–what profound intelligence.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

No, sweetheart. I don't 'miss' anything.
You're simply convinced that your brain-verbal tricks are_ something.
And they aren't. There simply isn't anything to understand.
Must I write the same to you as I did before?

Ok.

Your idea of 'understanding' and 'listening' is a brain-game.
Listening is when someone, like you, is victimized by the noise in your
head. Understanding is yours abd others–being mesmerized by that same
brain chatter.

Like a dog chasing its tail / arse.
Your idea of 'conversation' is others sniffing your arse and being
delighted.

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:

> On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance]
> Art[ist] wrote:
>
> > which you co-star in both.
>
> No, you don't: your heart is asleep.
> And I don't.
>
>
> > Puddly poo, I love you.
>
> You don't–and apparently you can't perceive
> being called 'love' without sarcasm.
>

People who love me don't call me idiot (well most of the time they don't)
Save your pious platitudes for the mass meetings.

–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[email protected]>:


>
> > As in read my lines? Perhaps I should get a clue Einstien.
>
> You fancy yourself to be Einstein?
> Sorry to hear that.
>

For someone who claims to understand, you sure do miss a lot Einstien.

–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]