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That's true. But even a myspace page can look like this
http://www.myspace.com/roglok

Many tools also have presets:
http://www.dennisknopf.net

there's multiple ways of "not designing" something if you think about it. It's always a decision, no?

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Did someone say beer? I'll definetely be there.

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Here's why that embeddded youtube video makes sense: It's from the 90s (not 80s!) and as you can see it has the same euphoria about technology as the net art of that time. The reason why it looks "bad" today is the same reason why 90s net.art looks "bad" today (even though you're right that "bad" turned into awesome)

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seriously dude, they post quicker than i can look!


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Erika: Certainly. (See "It's very rhizomatic but it's also a mess to read"...)
There's a very interesting discussion about wether media art even exists, but it's in German :(
http://www.mail-archive.com/rohrpost@mikrolisten.de/msg02075.html

Tom can you give an example for such "element[s] of conscious opposition to old-guard net art practice"? I agree that a lot of the good new shit is "looking back to '60s (text-centric, gallery-centric) conceptual art for models", I often wonder why. Artist websites seem to imitate aesthetics of a gallery, white, clean and neat. This is something I will never understand, since in my eyes the web is about everything BUT that form of presentation. It even clashes with a post-post modern attitude where everything is equally meaningful. Looks like everyone's trying to hide behind the eminent authenticity of conceptual and minimal art, since clearly nobody knows where net.art should go.

I have to admit however, that I love all the new stuff (such as my own hehe) and it's level of communication. But it's easy to like it: it's like riddles and the key to the answer is your own cultural competence. Everytime you "get" such a piece of art, it's a feeling of success. And that's always positive (only if the difficulty level is not too low and "everybody" could get it). And if it even appears waterproof concerning authenticity (due to a conceptual aspect) whattaya know; it's art!