Tom Moody
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The Rematerialization of Art


I must have missed Cao Fei that, Jaume Plensa, Jenny Holzer, John Simon, Lincoln Schatz, Cory Arcangel in the Whitney and NewMu this year. I will go back and check.

Jenny Holzer got her start tacking truisms up on New York phone poles, not in the new media sphere.

Rather than a show about packaging/marketing, it would seem better to pair new media sphere artists with non, and not make a big deal about what you're doing.

An example off the top of my head: pair Douglas Gordon's 24 hour Psycho with Cory Arcangel's Slow Tetris. This bootstraps Arcangel into the discourse of a known "media art genius" from the gallery side and he comes off rather better for the comparison, because his piece is more cheeky/fun. The theme is "time in media," not sales.

Not saying this isn't being done with Arcangel--it is (maybe even with those pieces, I forget). My point is that's a better way to bring art into the computercentric world the rest of us live in than these circle the wagons exhibitions.

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One bug with this comment software (in addition to the delay in the comment counter, which Paddy Johnson noted today) is that if you refresh you can end up reposting, as I think you just found out.
Written before reading your repl(ies).

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Hi, Patrick,
"one thing this show asks is whether New Media has been accepted as Contemporary Art (i.e. become part of the gallery/museum world), whose practices have been accepted, how that fits into the current contemporary dialogue, and how does that relate to larger "mainstream" art historical traditions."

That's three things. Taking the questions in turn the answers are:

1. No. (See my comment above about the current Whitney and NewMu surveys)

2. The galleries have their own idea of media art--it's mostly video but there is sometimes a computer component (tabulating data, etc.). The computer is not front and center, it is usually in the back story.

3. Computercentric art has not been accepted into the mainstream and won't be as long as shows are only "about" packaging/marketing. We need more than that to be inspired (e.g "a NeoPop resurgence"). You are providing context after the fact for a show with a weak premise. Maybe Domenico should have consulted you before organizing the show.

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Correction: I have talked with Paul Slocum about presentation issues on the blog and elsewhere and I talked a bit with Olia Lialina about it, but that may have just been by email. So it's not accurate to say that several artists in your show have discussed this on my blog. Paddy Johnson, Michael Bell-Smith and I had a lengthy confab about the content issues of being "geeks in the gallery" on her blog if you want to check it out.

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Thanks, Domenico,
Re: your disappointment in Rhizome, I had hoped that Ed might pop in to defend the show he recommended so you didn't have to do it yourself, but it seems he has also left the building.
We've discussed these issues at length on my blog (including with several artists in your show, hence the first person plural). I will spare you a long list of links.
You are "preaching to the choir," as we say here in America.
You have organized your show around a defensive idea, and that is never a good idea.
If you make the ideas sexy and package them reasonably well, the rest will follow. Talking about the packaging is only interesting if it raises content issues with respect to the work. That might have been an interesting topic.