Tom Moody
Since 2002
Works in New York, New York United States of America

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Joel,
It's hard work. A critic would take Vijay's description of 4chan, Olia's description of Vernacular 2.0, blog commentary on Paddy's and my blogs and whatever else is on table, including the surf clubs themselves, and break down the work described in those sources according to whether it is studio practice, post-studio practice, or techno-socializing. Personally I think the level of criticism is higher than ______, you just have to look at a lot of sources.

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That comment was addressed to T.Whid, not Tracky.

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I made fun of you on the earlier thread for egging Ed on in his "smackdown" of a poor artist, after you indignantly defended a "smackee" on my blog. You chose to be grievously insulted and have been harping on me harping ever since. No one can follow any of this at this point, so we just seem like two empty paper bags berating each other (to quote Noel Coward). I think we should avoid all contact in the future. When we do the panel next month we should sit at opposite sides of the table.

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Vijay,
Allow me to compliment you some more on the post about the Chans, you really caught the vibe well and communicated what was interesting (but also f-ed up) about the site. I knew about oekaki--some beautiful little drawings have been done in that medium--but the term "weaboo" was new to me (although I knew about Japan obsessives) and I will have to look up Shoop Da Woop and motivator posters (or maybe not). I have been lazily accessing Chan material secondhand mostly through the journalpics GIF scraper, so I could only guess at the running gags (no pr0n pun intended). I think an earlier (as in, late '90s) template for this activity was the Church of the Subgenius website. Basically any crazy, sick idea could be done as long as the subject was JR "Bob" Dobbs, "Connie," or some other church icon. At some point one has to give props for the activity even if the practitioners don't intend it as "art." Measuring the distance between the chans and the surf clubs is a fascinating topic, not the end of discourse as some would have it.
Best, Tom

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I misquoted myself--it was "4chan, 7chan, etc" not "Chan, 7Chan, etc..." (I changed the c to lower case after the fact.)