Tom Moody
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Vijay,
Allow me to compliment you some more on the post about the Chans, you really caught the vibe well and communicated what was interesting (but also f-ed up) about the site. I knew about oekaki--some beautiful little drawings have been done in that medium--but the term "weaboo" was new to me (although I knew about Japan obsessives) and I will have to look up Shoop Da Woop and motivator posters (or maybe not). I have been lazily accessing Chan material secondhand mostly through the journalpics GIF scraper, so I could only guess at the running gags (no pr0n pun intended). I think an earlier (as in, late '90s) template for this activity was the Church of the Subgenius website. Basically any crazy, sick idea could be done as long as the subject was JR "Bob" Dobbs, "Connie," or some other church icon. At some point one has to give props for the activity even if the practitioners don't intend it as "art." Measuring the distance between the chans and the surf clubs is a fascinating topic, not the end of discourse as some would have it.
Best, Tom

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I misquoted myself--it was "4chan, 7chan, etc" not "Chan, 7Chan, etc..." (I changed the c to lower case after the fact.)

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See what I mean, M.River?

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M.River, re: "sometimes I get the feeling that you think Rhizome or people on it are out to get you"

Uh, you mean like referring to my comments as "silly trolling," as an out of control T.Whid did? Ed Halter also indulged in the T-word. I never did that to commenters I respected on my blog, when it had comments. Not sure I would call it being "out to get me." Being impolite, yes.

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Afterthought, from my blog: "Vijay Pattisapu has an informative rundown in the Rhizome.org discussion forum on Chan, 7Chan, etc.--collective sites of posts by mostly anonymous users that serve as breeding grounds for animated GIFs and other "meme" art. Some have furrowed their brows wondering how that kind of anarchic creative energy, native to the world wide web, can be translated into capital A art. But they have not furrowed their brows enough for some other people, as can be seen on the same Rhizome thread.