Steven Read
Since 2004
Works in Denver, Colorado United States of America

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Community


Good ideas! There is alot of new coding needed here, so I feel rhizome would need to open its arms and delegate some of these tasks to the community coders out here. Otherwise this stuff will never happen.
Steve

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Re: Re: Re: Community


Good suggestions on artbase. The way I remember it, was that many, perhaps most, artbase submissions were accepted in a moderated manner. The difficult question is how and how much to filter the submissions. My 2 cents is to moderate at various levels, but in general leaning towards accepting most things into the system.
1. moderate most (light filter) into artbase
2. moderate a few (heavy filter) to other levels (reBlog and ?)
3. no moderation of artbase submissions into raw

Most importantly - just keep art moving through the system, and not just reBlog. Let members contribute art to the system! Otherwise they'll post it elsewhere and rhizome may only eventually get it via reBlog and even then its not necessarily member-oriented content.

Steven Read

> A related possibility I'd like to (re) raise is the idea of opening up
> the
> ArtBase so that all submissions are accepted, and ones selected by
> Rhizome
> are tiered. This has been considered on this list before and I return
> to it
> now as it seems relevant in Iight of this conversation. An open/tiered
> system would seem to combine what artists want from the ArtBase, as
> well as
> enabling it to grow faster. But its also a change to a system that
> hundreds
> of people have submitted to as is -- these things are complicated to
> change.
>
> First, of course, we want to make sure the ArtBase is working smoothly
> as
> is, but I just raise this to see if RAW subscribers generally have any
> opinions on it.
>
> Other suggested -- and more minor changes -- to the ArtBase in its
> current
> iteration could include posting all submissions to RAW so the
> community gets
> to see them even if they are not approved, and perhaps to see if site
> editors would also like to be artbase curators.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On 10/6/06 4:05 PM, "Rob Myers" <rob@robmyers.org> wrote:
>
> > Steve OR Steven Read wrote:
> >
> >> On the art base...
> >> I'm sorry your system to accept art into the art base has been
> broken for a
> >> year. I'm sorry it has not been a rhizome priority to remedy it.
> >
> > Can anyone from the community help fixing the art base?
> >
> > Don't ask what Rhizome can do for you, ask what you can do for
> Rhizome.
> >
> > We make the community. If the community isn't what it could be then
> we
> > know who to blame.
> >
> > - Rob.
> > +
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at
> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>

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Re: Re: Re: Community


Rob Myers wrote:

> Steve OR Steven Read wrote:
>
> > On the art base...
> > I'm sorry your system to accept art into the art base has been
> broken for a year. I'm sorry it has not been a rhizome priority to
> remedy it.
>
> Can anyone from the community help fixing the art base?
>
> Don't ask what Rhizome can do for you, ask what you can do for
> Rhizome.
>
> We make the community. If the community isn't what it could be then
> we
> know who to blame.
>
> - Rob.

Rob, you are quite right here. In fact, I would love to help rhizome and the art base. But, a couple years ago I did offer to volunteer and was helping out some as superuser. Then, when new staff came on board, I was asked to step down. I was going through a busy period and creating lots of work and shows, and my volunteer 'performance' had slowed down. I wanted to keep volunteering in general, which I mentioned, but to be honest I was rather rudely and quickly shoved off the system. I also tried to put in a comment or two about the changes to the site, that info didn't seem welcome either. So does the rhizome really want volunteer help? They sure didn't seem to want it then. I'm getting mixed messages.

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Re: Community


On the anniversary festival...
I saw no advance call for entries, call for involvment, call for help, call for jury, call for community, none. I don't think I missed the posts, as I just searched your archives, they don't exist. All the posts were after the festival had been planned and the participants set. Just look at all those events. Sure would have been nice to know they were coming and to know that maybe we could get involved. All privately invited participants. Not even one was an open community call of any kind. The Keylines...seeded again by privately invited participants. I wonder why only about 5 posts have been made in total? The Time Shares, again all privately invited curators. There were little to NO community calls for participation. This 'community' participation you speak of is totally manufactured. It's the classic 'art mafia' scenario. And now, this is the part where the loud-mouthed dissident (me) is taken to the back alley and shot in the head.

On the art base...
I'm sorry your system to accept art into the art base has been broken for a year. I'm sorry it has not been a rhizome priority to remedy it.

DISCUSSION

Re: Community


Uh oh, it’s turning into a rhizome bashing party!

I have only been around here for about 2 years. I have watched the 'community' feeling dwindle. I can't bitch too much because I'm sort of a loner and not usually one to jump into communities in general. But what has caused this reduction besides the commission stuff, and is disappointing, is the end of the 'art base'. I don't know if the reason is because of manpower funding or because of regime change strategy decisions, but about a year ago they stopped accepting things into the art base. The rhizome front page used to be mostly MEMBER art projects that were newly added into the art base. It was member content. And it was exciting to see all the new member art coming in and to see it discussed here. That is gone. Decisions were made to change to a reblog system of mostly external NON-MEMBER content. I voiced my opinion about that decision when it was made. I was slapped down, and for one reason or another was asked to resign as a 'superuser' helper. (Apparently I wasn't posting often enough to be useful as a FREE volunteer resource) Now the site its mostly digested information from other blogs and sources. I don't need that, I have a free bloglines account already thank you.

The art base claims to still be in operation. But how many pieces have been added to it this year? About 5. It used to be at least 10-20 pieces per week. Now it’s pretty much gone. And there has been little to no explanation. And I am quite sure the members were submitting hundreds and hundreds of pieces to the art base this year. They appear to have been completely ignored.

Then they do an anniversary festival, all in NYC it seemed. Suffice to say I didn't feel at all any sense of 'community' involvement with this festival. I could have missed something with that, but it seemed to me to be conceived and implemented in a vacuum.

I would like to renew my membership when the time comes, but the reasons are disappearing. I feel my money is not going to help any 'community', but instead to help a select few NYC insiders, which I am not 'lucky' enough to be one of. They don't seem to want our community, or they simply can't afford it anymore.


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