Steve Kudlak
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[Fwd: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: 'Kill the patriarch, not net art - you muppets...']


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Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: 'Kill the patriarch, not net art - you
muppets...' From: steve.kudlak@cruzrights.org
Date: Mon, July 26, 2004 12:09 am
To: "mark cooley" <mgc868f@smsu.edu>
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I am kind of amused and saddened by all of this. This happened
a couple of years ago in the zine community. What it really meant
is that one or two of the luminaries decided he (rarely she) kind
of woke up one day and decided "the thrill is gone".

I know this will sound like sour grapes, but some years ago, well
it was around the time of the Loma Preita Earthquake (1989) someone
academics mainly art and lit types gave a conference on "cyberspace" and
some of us techies submited proposals but none of us got accepted because
we didn't fit "Gibson's vision" who was the author William Gibson of
Cyberpunk Science Fiction Fame at the time. It certainly did not relate to
how "cyberspace" was evolving at the time. Now luckily a local person
with better academic art credentials than I produced a pretty good book on
how cyberspace as evolving through the local
tree structureed(think threaded message mode) computer bulliten
boards in the local (Santa Cruz, California 1980s-1990s era).

Now I am techie, and I left my academic art side in stasis i.e. I was
probably still am a printmaker)...From my world view the technology is
finally getting rich enough and powerful enough that really reaaly
interesting stuff could be done, so it is hard to say it is dead.

In ways it is just beginning, this was why I was/am still so alramed with
the intrusion of the federal government into the doings of the the CAE
(Creative Arts Ensemble). I was hoping that a full and rich interaction
between the arts and biological sciences would start.

I dunno whether this whole think of declaring patricarchs is kind
of a high arts thing or something. I know that Bill Joy has made
all sorts of declarations about technology. I now that Bill Gates
makes his statements about technology and Linus Torvaldis and Richard
Stallman propose perfectly viable alternatives and no one takes any of
their statements as "the last word". But I notice that "X is Dead" is a
favourite proclamation of people in the arts and alternative
communities. Why would one person presume so much power over things? Seems
kind of arrogant to me.

Have Fun,
Sends Stve

> very nicely put marc. it is ironic that the essay that sparked alot of
this death business "the death of the author" can be read itself as an
attack on capitalism, authenticity and avant-gardism. oh well...
>
> good luck with the new gallery space - sounds great.
>
> mark
>
>
> marc garrett wrote:
>
>> Hi mark,
>>
>> I agree...with you. I am so bored with all this shoulder jumping via
institutionally led propoganda.
>>
>> Yep - Vuk Cosik can say whatever he wants, but it certainly is not
reflecting the reality of what is actually going on right now in many
of
>> our lives as practicing networked/relational artists, and soft
>> groups.
>> Surely this is all about claiming a section of history, (yawn) yet
again, taking away the 'authenticity' of what many of us are actively
continuing without the insecure need of institutional justification.
Killing and placing a flag on that mythical 'hermitcally sealed' moon,
>> just so one's name can be seen in lights as part of the delusory
spectacle, instigated by provincially minded academics, and tired and
worn out institutionally dissatisfied dependents. A sad state of
affairs
>> indeed. It is a very interesting time - and we can observe now more than
>> ever where people's real intentions lie...
>>
>> We are in the process of setting up a gallery in London, UK called HTTP
>> (The house of technological termed praxis), and we are already filled up
>> with a whole year of artists/soft groups who are actively involved with
>> with net art, sound art and relational art; young and old. We set up
this gallery, because we feel that fine art and connected
>> institutions
>> and some curators have failed in democratizing, showing what is of value
>> out there, we are left with no other choice but reclaim what has been
taken away from networked creatives by institutionally bound power
hungry centralists, with an aim re-balance the ever changing picture
out
>> there. And what is great about this is that we are getting a lot of
genuine interest from new, independent fine art groups, nationally and
>> locally and people, who would not normally view net art, and things
related - so all of this 'trying to kill' is a tactic to place
>> certain
>> people on thrones, and it does nothing that is positive or
>> progressive
>> to open up debate, or even empower the fluidity of the artist,
>> curator
>> or connected creatives, or culture in the wider context.
>>
>> Let those who rode the dot.com boom who are have run out of
>> imagination
>> and fresh verve, fizzle out inside their bursted, restrictive bubble -
>> who in reality were obviously desperately reliant on capitalist-led
trappings and a need for historical mirrors to see themselves rather
than the larger picture, reflecting a weakness and failure to
>> transcend
>> canon-led protocls - yes, may be they are dead. But there are plenty
more who are vibrant and alive, and they are the ones who will teach
the
>> so called encased 'heroic period' - DEAD gurus, how to move beyond
lip-service. There is a lot going on, and it is linked to non-linear
behaviour, flexible manouvering, and beyond the remits of imposed
gate-keeping.
>>
>> And yes - history will unfold...and it will not be fine art or
>> singular
>> 'minded', visionless academics who will be looked upon positively as new
>> histories/stories are declared, but the ever flourishing expansionist
individuals and groups, who are exploring their, collective,
>> collaborative, and authentic, re-evalutaing progressions of a
>> socially
>> networked, and relationally 'embodied' creative world, beyond
>> institutionally directed mythologies - the real heroes (if there is such
>> a thing anymore).
>>
>> 'Kill the patriarch, not net art - you muppets...'
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >"Like Vuk Cosik (the father of net art) is saying, NET ART IS DEAD !
>> (4) it is dead because the context where net art was produced doesn't
exist anymore...
>> >But on the other I still think that some art form would and will be
>> produced in interactions with Internet, but we cannot call it 'net art'
anymore ! I do and I will also...
>> >But at the same time I decided to jump into the most 'prestigious',
>> 'serious', 'outdated' and 'unpolitically correct' media on an ironical
way: 'Paintings' ! Many artist came from paintings to net art by using
on the screen the paintings iconology and metaphor (5),"
>> >
>> >At the risk of opening up the "death of net art" debate again. It
>> seems that you are saying that you switched from net art to
>> painting-the-net because the context for net art was dead, but, one
could argue that the context for painting was dead when the photograph
was developed over a hundred years ago, yet you are calling what you do
"Painting." So why do artists who use networks as an approach to
making art have to rename the practice? Why not rename what you do
something else besides "painting?"
>> >
>> >Personally, i think this whole "the death of net art" stuff stinks of
>> avant-gardism, which one may think died with Modernism, but i guess
both myths are alive and well. the myths vary but often go something
like this... declare the practice that you do extinct (along with
everyone doing it) and go on to the NEXT LEVEL (which in this case is
something much older and arguably out of date than net art) and then
declare yourself THE FIRST to do that. but i say art only exists as a
simple hierarchical timeline if you want to be reductionist (and a
modernist). If the newness of painting exists in the subject as you
suggest (painting what has never been painted) then why does the
newness of net art exist in the context of the technology? ...and on a
related note the whole "Father of Net Art" stuff is so patriarchal and
boring.
>> >
>> >respectfully
>> >
>> >mark cooley
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Valery Grancher wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>"Webpaintings": 1998-2004
>> >>After net.art on 1998, my personal view...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>If you look art history and how it is dealing with paintings, you
>> can
>> >>perceive that the main topic is always the subject painted on
>> canvas:
>> >>From Giotto to today. Paintings has dealt with physical subject,
>> dealt
>> >>with sometimes narration or no narration, and has interacted with
other media like photography or with just its materiality and
iconology...
>> >>For artist from my generation, we grew up with video games and
computers. The first iconology I perceived were icons from interface
and software. The screen has defined a new window and has killed the
camera obscura. The screen is not reflecting and difracting the
>> light
>> >>like pigment but is generating electronic light. So today how to
>> paint
>> >>something ? The skill doesn't matter. The main topic is to paint
something that nobody painted before you (Miltos Manetas (1)). And
>> in
>> >>my case, I would like to add: to paint something by defining a new
iconoly (painting semiology)...
>> >>Some peoples from my art public were surprised on 1998 to see that a
conceptual artist like me who was one of the first to use internet
media on 1994, 4 years later during the time when Net Art was really
the most successfull art practice, is taking brush to produce images
on canvas !
>> >>I would say that I always perceived internet as a dynamic process, a
network space where nothing may be freezed. Internet is dealing with
new concept of time and space, and is defining on another way human
identity and phenomenolgy. Net art is a process.This media has
>> evolved
>> >>from 1998 until today to a huge market where we cannot find any TAZ
(Hakim Bey (2)) like on 1994 when net art was conceived! The web and
internet is today a space where branding icons are bringing a new
>> kind
>> >>of consumerism (the hyperconsumerism) where also language may be
commercialized ("google adwords", C. Bruno (3)) , a new kind of
>> 'pop'
>> >>with its visual signs, logo, VIP and so on, so on...
>> >>Like Vuk Cosik (the father of net art) is saying, NET ART IS DEAD !
(4) it is dead because the context where net art was produced
>> doesn't
>> >>exist anymore...
>> >>But on the other I still think that some art form would and will be
produced in interactions with Internet, but we cannot call it 'net
art' anymore ! I do and I will also...
>> >>But at the same time I decided to jump into the most 'prestigious',
'serious', 'outdated' and 'unpolitically correct' media on an
>> ironical
>> >>way: 'Paintings' ! Many artist came from paintings to net art by
>> using
>> >>on the screen the paintings iconology and metaphor (5), in my case I
felt clearly that the only thing to do was to reverse the process:
How should be paintings during internet time ? How to use computer
iconology in paintings ?
>> >>I think quite differently than some painters of my generation: I
>> said
>> >>that we should paint something which was never painted before...
>> that
>> >>is true... but painting is also a language and is not dealing with
just images and subject and that's why I'm talking about iconology.
>> I
>> >>deeply think that the only way to paint a painting in our internet
time should not be to paint computers objects (still life) but what
computers has brought in our reality theater, to paint what computer
technology has changed in our way of seeing. That's why I choosed to
paint website screen, computer screen, computer codes. By doing
>> this,
>> >>I try to show that the computer iconology is changing all the time
>> and
>> >>paintings are perfect Flat Dead Things which are freezing the topics
painted. The result is that the paintings produced are always
reflecting dead icons: The design of the website are changing all
>> the
>> >>time, the software are changing also, and this is the same for the
codes...
>> >>Otherwise, I would say that the internet screen are little bit like
landscape and still life. These pictures are osbsolete, and were
>> used
>> >>so much that we cannot define anything specific, but at the same we
are always fascinated by them. This is like a sunset, this is a
>> stupid
>> >>and very kitsch 'cliche', but all the time by facing this natural
phenomenon we are always fascinated because a specific and undefined
detail inside this phenomenon is catching us: Miltos Manetas is
calling it "Neen"(6).
>> >>I will finish by saying that this is the first time in history that
human is consuming language and iconology like daily products: I
defined my own way of seeing by being confronted to my generation
computer iconology, but my son will get another way of seeing by
>> being
>> >>confronted to other technologies iconology.
>> >>We jumped from the 'nature' phenomenology based on nature perception
to cyber-phenomenology based on technologies interactions with our
perception !
>> >>
>> >>Valery Grancher
>> >>http://www.nomemory.org
>> >>http://www.nomemory.org/webpaint
>> >>http://www.nomemorybazaar.com
>> >>
>> >>N.B: This text will be published in my book "internet drawing" on
>> fall
>> >>2004 onestarpress editions: http://www.onetsarpress.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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DISCUSSION

Re: U.S. Warns of Outbreak of Flu Outbreak this Fall, Before November Presidential Elections


Es(t) Spanglish joke on el silly readers.....
Al -Getya? hmmmm perhaps it some got their
barcode mitzvah wrong and never properly became a LAN?
Maybe Allah is trying to get the humans to lighten up
and stop doing in one another.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

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[Fwd: Re: [CAE_Defense] after browsing critical art's site]


Note This Issue Popped UP on the CAE Defense List.
I thought I'd run it by here. Have Fun, Sends Steve

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Subject: Re: [CAE_Defense] after browsing critical art's site
From: "Steve Kudlak" <chromazine@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, July 17, 2004 10:43 pm
To: CAE_Defense@yahoogroups.com
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The same thought has been drifting through my mind .
When I listened to the NPR report this afternoon there,
which I have on tape, so I can play back and get all the
names correct, I was struck that many of the LE (Law Enforcement)
folks still kind of felt that they were in some way "right" that
these very various dangerous things and it was good they
were discovered and such a tough astand was taken.
So I think you have asked a good question and it would be
nice to discuss that somewhere. If it is not reasonable here
then maybe we should start another group or somrthing to
discusss these and/or other iissues relating to encounters
between Art and Authority.

This does scare me, because it seems that the only socities that
in the past that sought to heavily regulate art were those that were
dictatorial or authoritarian I am starting to get worried that there is
a movement in the same of protecting people from terrorism to
actually try to control the materials that artists may use and the areas
that they can explore. This seems to be the tone of the investigators they
were alarmed that artist had these materials.

My thought is there might have been some initial reason to be a little
rattled just due to circumstances, but that after that, it should have
been a "whoops we are sorry, it looked a little spooky, look at it from
our side, and sorry for the intrusion on your life."

I wonder if the fact that it was Buffalo that had something to
do with it. I noticed that local newspaper editorial folks were
pretty much pro police and one person actually chided Steve
Kurtz as if he were a child that needed corrected.

So indeed I would love to hear more "philosophical discussion"
to stretch those words a bit. about all these things. I mean the
CAE was something I viewed as a positive force, that there would
evolve a rich sort of dialogue between Arts/Science and Technology. Right
now it seems that CAE and folks like that were talking the
first baby steps in the right direction. I am worried that this attack of
anti-terrorist paranoia will shut this useful area of inquirt down.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

P..S. I have deiced to split up my message and I will publish the second
part if it a little later all going wrll. This will involve my ideas why
the authorities
got so bent out of shape. (OH WELL I'LL PUT IN A HALF THOUGHT OUT PRECIS)

I will admit that I am littlle biased here. The biomedical knowledge
conveyed to first responders is limited and to be honest sort of
watered down a bit to make it clear and easily understanable.
Part of the problem is that it is thought that these people have to make
quick decisions. Eductational levels vary but to be honest
the best that can be counted on country wide is 8th or 9th grade. When I
have looked over cicrucula for fire responders such as
fire and police a lot of it is based on large amounts of rote learning
and memorization to get a certificate. None of this involves having a rich
and detailed and appreciative understanding of life sciences.

This I think correspondens with a suspicipous world view that these people
are trained to have picked up on the job this can cause strange results.
For awhile until it was understood some neighbors once thought I was
building a drug lab whereas I was just making my own vanilla.

Umnderstanding microbiology and biology in general is something
that requires some trarining and forethought. The Aniterrorism people lack
this. Worse yet they maybe trained like drug enforcement people are
trained. In other words they say the perti dishes, pippettes and
biological equipment as paraphernalia.. So they are working in that mode.
They can't see them as just plain old tools like their police radio and
other forenesis eqiupment. Every once in awhile there would be someone
would try to float a bill in congress that would make posession of lab
equipment illegal.

I don't know how to proceed from here. Is it possible to explain to these
people
that just because someone has some equipment that seems a bit strange,
has some
writings that sound a tad "reolvutionary" and maybe it is best we haul
them in and
bive them all a good scare. Besides these are just effete university
nebbishes that
got too much money to do silly things will we brave people who protect
their unappreciative asses can get our newe engine funded. Don't laugh I
have heard
something very close to this in conversation.

Perhaps Federal Law Enforcement people are just a bit too arrogant? Can
we explain
anything to them? Is that being too idealistic? Should we ask our
representatives to pass
an "artistic freedom to use biological material act?" I mean these
questions are going to have
to be answered. I mean this is pretty close to the most egrergious use
made of the Patriot Act
and the "September 1tth Excuse" that has been made. Does anyone have any
ideas?

By the way I may post this to Rhizome Raw....

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Anyt Fiorelli wrote:

>Hello,
>i have been browsing the site of critical art ensemble
>and i was wondering what was it exactly the attorney
>and fbi are deranged by in the activities of this
>group. not exactly what is they claim against like
>fraud or other , but what are your feeling they are
>distrubed by in their activity. what kind of paranoia
>is it triggered by? : is it a general impression on
>the group, or rather something in their political
>thinkings which you could interpret or explain?
>
>i am sending this not knowing if the group is
>interested to join such like on answering these
>question, i am here on an other continent and i don't
>think the issue has been debated here. thanks.
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DISCUSSION

Re: more on Outfoxed & Fair Use...


Thanks for bringing this up and for those who have
posted the stuff about the "Induce Act". Those of us
who are caught up in how awful the BUsh Administration
is. often forget (or at least I tend to do) that even
liberal/lefty democrats can end up supporting rather
awful things when it comes to copyright and fair use.
I am going to write a number of my represenatives snarly
letters about these issues.

Have FUn,
Sends Steve

>
> Copyfight
> July 14, 2004
> Seltzer on "OutFOXed"
>
> Copyfight co-author Wendy Seltzer has concluded the below-referenced
> online colloquy on fair use and academic publishing; below, a snippet on
> the fair use argument for using Fox News clips to criticize the company's
> reporting:
>
>
> Question from Lloyd Davidson, Northwestern Univ.:
> Robert Greenwald's new film, Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on
> Journalism, will probably attempt to escape copyright infringement
> lawsuits against his use of significant excerpts from Fox's news programs
> by claiming that critical and satirical use of such material is protected.
> Whether you have seen the movie or not, do you think that such a
> significant use of material could ever have a chance of being protected
> from copyright infringement suits based on such a defense?
>
> Wendy Seltzer:
> While I haven't seen the film, I'd argue strongly in its favor as
> protected fair use -- whatever political angle it takes. I'd similarly
> defend a critic of Michael Moore's who wanted to use excerpts from
> Fahrenheit 9/11. So long as the excerpts are used in the process of
> criticism, and not merely gratuitously, they serve a purpose different
> from that of the original work and don't substitute for the original's
> commercial market. In today's multimedia environment, you can't
> effectively criticize newsmakers without using materials in which they may
> claim copyright. We need to ensure our critics have access to the same
> tools and technologies that their targets have.
>
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Re: Re: Re: Blog vs Board (re: Blogging Survey)


ActuaLLy, you found of my neat patented idea, as he says with that
sense of self inflation that we internet folks seem to have, that is
to have a sort of art blog, which would include all sorts of collages,
maybe even shudden, shudder poetry.

But there are somethings that I can think can only be done easily
by blogs. For example "The Steve the Artist amd Bob the Genetic Science
Person being doggedly persued by the FBI, which seems to want to pin
something on them, no matter how thwey do it on them, just to keep up
the reputation of "WE ARE THE FEDS DON'T MESS WITH US; IF YOU DO YOU WILL
BE SORRY; WE WILL MAKE SURE OF THAT..." In addition to Steve (another one
not me)and Bob there is a small publisher called Autonomedia whose works
have been subpoena'd and as far as I can tell don't have flashy lawyers to
help them. Last I heard Steve and Bob had Paul Cambria Jr.who is wodely
and
highly thought of in many circuits (I know it sounds more news hound like to
say circles but I likr circuits:)

But I am worried about things like Autonomedia, becuase it was Autonomediz,
zines(the paper kind that came by mail), Loompanics and C-SPAN that kept
me emotionally and intellectually alive, and maybe even assured my physical
survival while I was pretty much bed ridden for a periof of aboutr 9 months
with the loving care of my Aunts Mary and Anna, whose phsyical care pulled
me through. Along with Doctor Chuck-Dude's 50mcg/hr Duragesic preszcriptions
that made pain a distant if not totally unpresent thing...See this is
getting blog-like already...BUT TO ME IT IS THESE LITTLE THINGS LIKE
ZINES,
AUTONOMEDIA AND LOOMPANICS THAT ADD TO THE BIG THINGS LIKE CARE AND KINDNESS
AND PRESCRIPTIONS THAT MAKE THINGS LIVE SURVIVAL POSSIBLE.

The other BIG THING was these things helped supress the CHORUS FROM SO
CALLED FREINDS THAT IT WAS ALL THE SAME EVERYWHERE THAT THERE WAS NO
USE TRYING TO LEAVE THRUST BELT UPPER OHIO VALLEY. ACTUALLY I AM PROBABLY
BEING TOO MEAN; HAVING NEVER SEEN ANYTHING DIFFERENT SO HE PROBABLY HONESTLY
THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CASE.

Anyway that is probably too blog like already....but it is tied in with
why it would be a shame to see things like autonomedia, loompanics or some
zine whih talked about growing bacteria or doingsomething slightly scared to
be shut down, or worse yet,just warmed off.

EVER SINCE I HAVE TOLD PEOPLE THAT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE
STEVE KURTZ AND CAE CASE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME THAT I SHOULD
STAY CLEAR, THAT IF I BECAME SIGNIFICANTLY INVOLVED THEM WOULD FIND
SOME WAY TO MESS WITH ME TOO. I WAS SURPRISED THAT THIS CAME NOT FROM
PEOPLE WHOSE INTERESTS WERE IN BLACK HELICOPTERS, CIA PROGRAMS NAMED
MKULTRA AND MKDELTA BUT BUILDING MANAGERS. OFFICE PERSONS AND SMALL
BUSINESS OENERS.

I have become very interrsted in the whoile hijacking of cultural to give
various entities who want to extend copyrighy more and more and jack
technology around so it has this built in. I mean all this Digital copyright
Sutff could lay the groundwork for what later would be a very Orwellian
MethodFor Controling lots of things. I think that our supposedly liberal
leftie friends in office like a certain Barbara Boxer should haveher
feet held tot to the fire over this one.

In spite of all those failures I am not willing to fall into the old
lefty saw that both parties are the same. I see that as VERY PERNICIOUS
AND CLOSE TO DOWN RIGHT EVIL IN THE CURRENT PRESIDENTIAL SITUATION>
THE CURRENT SITTING PRESIDENT AS DIM-WITTED RELIGIOUS NUT WITH DELUSIONS
THAT HE IS A KING. CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THE OTHER PARTY DID VOTE FOR THINGS
THAT WERE QUESTIONABLE BUT NOW AS LONG AS THEY HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT THEY
ARE STILL A MUCH BETTER CHOICE. NO WHERE NEAR PERFECT BUT I AM WORRIED
THAT IF THE CURRENT POWERS THAT BE REMAIN IN OFFICE OUR ARTISTIC AND SOCIAL
FREEDOMS WILL BE THINGS OF THE PAST SACRFICED ON THE ALTAR OF PROTECTION
FROM TERRORISM.

Note this would have been something that would have been discussed on the
old tree strucured BBS and it would have provoked lots of useful discussion.
I think I will paste it into my blog and see what happens in addition to
posting it to these various mailing lists. But in general it seems out of
place in such places so I am not going to do too much of tHAT.

hAVE fuN,
sENDs Steve

> It seems to me, being very new to the whole blogging thing, that its for
> those that have a desire and the time to say something. Which is cool.
> It doesn't really matter if anyone reads it but just functions as a form
> of
> digital journaling.
>
> Then theres the one with the fan club or the desire for the fan club.
> Some other poor soul can relate (and let me know) to what my sorry ass had
> to say today. Great now I'm not going to blow my head off thanks Buddy.
>
> Some folks have some pretty comprehensive Blogs.
> I imagine they don