the search for the "next thing" is a healthy process as long as it's not the only one.

different disciplines have different hearts and follow different paths. maybe converging, but different.

if you look at it from a certain (limited) point of view: painting is "old", sculpture is "old", music is "old". but is it true?

if we answer yes, we're probabily filled up with too many concepts, too much in a hurry, too embedded in The Context.

tools are tools. cost them 3dollars or a million. be them ancient or futuristic.

i love art that is expression of its time. i also love classical art, but i Love that which is contemporary.

but the "new" and the "contemporary" can be found in a violin just like it can be found in a neural network.

salvatore [xDxD]
www.artisopensource.net

Eric Dymond wrote:

> > The cheque is in the mail, worry not. But if you had taken my
> advice,
> > you'd have a credit card from MOMO or the MET and this wouldn't be
> an
> > issue.
> > I can help you out for now, but you have to take the institutions by
> > the jugular if you ever expect to have financial independence. They
> > have your money. It's yours, not Damien Hirst's, Eric Fischl's or
> any
> > number of 20th century hacks who have their claws in the side of the
> > money bearing institutions.
> > After all, the whole art world is just another mediated scam, take
> > control! You're a mediated artist! It should be your specialty by
> now.
> and maybe, just maybe you should remind them that the clock on the
> wall tells me that that the 20th century is over. Its already 2006,
> time to forget the past and learn to deal with the new century.
> Money will gravitate to those who act.

:)
take institutions by the jugular?
you probably hit the right spot: either someone does it for me, or i don't want to have anything to do with the institutions.
or with the "real" world itself, as a matter of fact :)
i'm probably fed up with everything. possibly, i was born fed up.
we have everything we need to abolish nations, governments, institutions, television, consumism. yet we sit and obey.
better than "to abolish": to realize that they are fake structures, forced on us to control.
we wear/eat/consume stuff that causes death all over the world. knowing it.
we get brainwashed since we're born. we think that we have to be tall, slim, sexy, muscolar.
we're told that only specific lifestyles bring "success".
we're told that we have to take medicine X and Y to feel allright.
we're told everything and its contrary 2 days later, and yet we believe.

learn to deal with the new century?
why not forget this century, and everything else, and just do what we want and makes us feel good?
we have the power for it. bypass mcluhan, bypass TAZ, bypass baudrillard.

maybe we'll meet in jail.
i hope they have fiber net conenctions in there.

salvatore

Eric Dymond wrote:

>> Viva la Revolution!
> No..., I just want thier money, wouldn't corporate fraud be a better approach?

mind fraud is the best approach. but it's slow. can you afford a 20-years long strategy?

> I want all the money institutions spend on physical art going to net art
> (not just .5% of their contemporary budget) , and I don't care about purist beliefs,
> or democracy, or loss of community, I just want the money.
> And not some chump change from a net start-up, I want to get a hold of the big budgets
> and make T. Whid as famous as T. Cruise, Alexis Turner as famous as J-Lo,

don't all of us want it, in the end.

it's sad, though. maybe we should just do like mick jagger & C. : use tons of drugs, go around
half naked, having sex with whoever's in range, and live some revolution, instead.
but we're sons of a different time, and souls don't move as sincerely as in the 60s and 70s: everyone's
too fucked up persuing their false needs and beliefs.

you know what? maybe we should just design a "scientology" thing, mess their minds up a little
more and live long and prosper. it just needs time . a 3D religion? a god made of software automas?
a diet in which neural networks tell you what to eat?

> and every other poster to this forum as well.

i'm late with my rent: can i have a couple of hundreds in advance?

please? :)

i put them all online

for a happier internet.

http://www.artisopensource.net/giocattoli/

as usual: get your cpu ready for a sweat: it's an awful lot of math to be
performed inside a browser :)

on windows, view them on firefox, if you can, as they perform quite better.

salvatore [xDxD]

>Why not hack culture, you meet more people that way ;-)

:) i actually tried breaking into culture, once.. they seriously pretended
me to work for free, making stuff that would later get their own names written
on it.

so i thought: i'm doing it for free? well let's at least make some laughs
out of it, and that's where my software automas stared doing strange stuff,
as if they were drunk.

sometimes someone actually understands what they do, far from my self-conceived
idea that it is instead very clear what the stuff_i_make does.

and this, maybe, is the problem for it all: understanding. either you strike
a precise spot, where people *knows* what you're doing, and that precise
thing hits their colelctive imaginaries, as well, or you don't get nothing,
apart from the appreciation and welcomed criticism of your peers. and thanks
god_or_whoever_for_him for the existence of peers.

in the end: i'd rather hack a bank, instead. one with nice leggy female clerks
in it :) ... working on the fetish of it :)

salvatore

>-- Original Message --
>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 01:03:42 +0100
>From: marc <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
>To: list@rhizome.org
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Commission Voting: Finalist Ranking
>Reply-To: marc <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
>
>
>Why not hack culture, you meet more people that way ;-)
>
>m.