Patrick Simons
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Works in Falmouth United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

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revolting peasants


GW is visiting us this week and we've got nothing to wear!
He's come such a long way and worked so hard to make us feel included and special.
I have been wondering how best to welcome him and show just how much we support his paternalism and ...well, all encompassing single mindedness and visionary, evangelical drive for a new world ...order.
Perhaps a sing along, a cheeky, self deprecating cockney ditty,or a piece of contemporary popular culture, something that best shows our ironic but edgy sense of humour, something from the football terraces perhaps, something which references the understated nature of the visit to old blighty, something which shows our gratitude and is an expression of our awareness that without him we simply would not be the best dressed aircraft carrier in the west.
Just imagine it 100,000 faces beaming, arms waving , the verse which comes to mind is the old soccer favourite..

"You're going home in a fucking am-bu-lance

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Re[2]: RHIZOME_RAW: finding net.art in the rhizome artbase


Im with Eric
this is not in the spirit of the artbase at all.
How about a vote on the worst five attempts to represent lottery funding, we could all vote on it ..and then vote on the best five responses to the idea ..and then we could al do some work
Patrick

Eryk Salvaggio wrote:

>
>
> I never agreed to enter my work into a competition when I allowed my
> work to
> be shown on Rhizome's servers (for no compensation.) Nor am I
> comfortable
> with the idea of any artists work "competing" in a populist pony show
> without thier permission.
>
> -e.
>

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Re: more resentment...


Lewis LaCook wrote:

> Francis Hwang wrote:if that's not ideal than we can hope that a)
> > Rhizome gets more funding so I can hire help or b) Francis gets
> > less
> > incompetent. Either way, the lack of sig generation was not a
> > conscious
> > policy decision. Sometimes code rots.
>
>
> don't be so hard on yourself, francis----
>
> yes, sometimes code DOES rot---it's not political, and it's not
> indicative of any desire for hegemony (like much of this discusssion
> is)--
>
> bliss
> l

Dear Rhizomers

Perhaps the role of rhizome has changed, perhaps there is a sense that a simplistic reductionism has found its way into the focus of the discussion about its role and our collective access to the decision making process.
I have never found the lack of any democratic constitution or stake holding rights with rhizome to have been problematic, I have always understood the club type make up of the organisation/service to be fairly explicit and straightforward.
I have also continued to contribute to the continuation of it, despite the change from donation to subscription, and while I still have reservations about the accessability of subsciption based organisations, I still do not expect to be more involved in the driving forward of the organisation/service than I was before.
I suggest that whilst there may well be greater attention paid to the arts by state apparatus during times of greater political unrest, (though considering the levels of imperialist expansionism we are seeing at the moment, the level and potency of any organised resistance is laughable), the suggestion that it is political coercion which is leading the political agenda at rhizome is overly reductionist and quite honestly over stating the extent to which rhizome has ever been politically active, in any sense or that it is, or has ever been a coherent voice against dominant cultural ideology, be that American, US/UK, Nato, Western, Capitalists.... based. I have always percieved rhizome to be a rather nice but cosy liberal, bourgeois, organisation and there is nothing wrong with that, its just that it seems to be a much bigger and probably futile task to change it (how do you storm a site/sever?) rather than form a seperate body, with a constitution and open organisation from its inception instead. This would hopefully allow a new structural form to develop which would not have the percieved failings of rhizome and also would not allow this to drift into a strange war of words which never quite seems to explicitly find its voice,... or something, perhaps

patrick