Patrick Simons
Since the beginning
Works in Falmouth United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

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new work


http://www.gloriousninth.com/flaming.html

Glorious Ninth
Flaming (our/your/their rage) 2004

All debate about ownership and empowerment, democracy and accountability, long term perspectives and global, environmental issues are trodden underfoot and a chilling efficiency in dehumanising whole societies and populations, is allowed to remove any possibility of debate and empathic shared existence with those about to die.

Flaming (our/your/their rage) is a release of anger and frustration against the powerful. Power and rage smashes a country already suffering. A lack of power to control everything provokes this rage. Artist, activist, freedom fighter, terrorist - where do our liberal values start and stop? Rage of the new yorkers, rage of america as they experienced violation. Rage at our collective lack of insight and our/your/their crouched/couched response. Rage that they/you/we want revenge. Rage at the twittery of politicians, their sell-out, and our stupidity to think they might be something they could be. Rage at our own hypocrisy. Rage at the defeat of the left, and at the utter abandonment of real hope. Rage at the inadequacies of intellectual arguments. Rage that there isn't an easy answer. Rage that it’s complex and there's not enough time in a life-time. Rage that there's no serious debate about what we actually want and about how it can be achieved and about how we understand the world.

What is dished out from our representatives is simplistic, fundamentalist medieval crap. How can it be that I am either with you or against you? How can the means justify the ends justify the means? How can there be an axis of evil? How can this axis of evil shift so much that it obliterates ‘allies’ who ‘stood by our side’ so recently. How can this be the path of righteousness and the act of a democratic society when carpet bombing, depleted uranium shells and the full might of the very latest technologies - which we spend so much time discussing in terms of the alienating nature of its inherent logic - is used to incapacitate people/countries/societies in the name of progress and future generations?

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Internet Art Survives, But the Boom Is Over -NY times


So,.......

If history is dead, narrative is dead, art is dead, culture is dead, ideology is dead, class is dead, the cold war is dead, modernism, net art is dead..
.......

does that mean that...

capitalism , dialectical materialism , cultural resistance, class antagonism, propaganda, American cultural dominance and hegemony,

are dead?

of course it doesn't.

Does it mean that net art as Greenbergian self referencing high (with a post mod twist) modernism is now exposed as the surfacey decadent irrelevance that I think a lot of this community felt it to be , is dead, then did it ever leave the test tube really because what was its' purpose beyond providing a medium for cultural- media-communication theorists to dabble in the experience of creative activity to make some stuff .

The idea that a self appointed group of pioneers, a heroic avant garde could be so self aware and self conscious, that all that is left to them is to announce their own demise seems right some how.

If it is true for net art as a vague collectivity, however, then surely it should be forced out, replaced by something new and more culturally relevant, of our time...

not handing in its' employment card and retiring to the suburbs.

Unless it has been nothing more than that all the time.

the net art that inspired me to get involved in this medium was exciting, critical and of the time, not painfully self aware and directionless.

Those of you who will now fight over the claims to have sounded its deathknell first look frightened and shallow, dilettantes.

Patrick
G9

abe wrote:

> http://www.linkoln.net/neversaydie.jpg

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Re: whitney biennial


Now now.......

Perhaps it might be nice to have a "new american" category,
you know.. Iraqi/ Guantanamo/Hiatian.

We all want our cultural institutions to be in line with our cultural producers, don't we?

M. River wrote:

> > That's so American of them.
> >
>
> LOL, true. Although they do have an ever changeing idea of what
> "American" is. And that, I think, is positive in the end.

DISCUSSION

Re: artport gate page February 04:


What is a Salvaggio?.

Eryk Salvaggio wrote:

>
>
> Napier, I hear he's good, but he's no Salvaggio.
>

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: silly bill, syllables are for kids.


Ock tha noo

too right my son

Mac Romeedya

marc garrett wrote:

> It's always great to see the small person stand well against the
> bigger ugly
> guy.
>
> marc
>
>
>
> > So homonyms are now covered by the DMCA?
> >
> > Microsoft Takes on Teen Over Web Site
> > AP
> > Mon Jan 19, 8:05 AM ET
> >
> > VANCOUVER, British Columbia - Mike Rowe thinks it's
> > funny that his catchy name for a Web site design
> > company sounds a lot like Microsoft.
> >
> > The software giant, however, is not amused.
> >
> > "Since my name is Mike Rowe, I thought it would be
> > funny to add 'soft' to the end of it," said Rowe, a
> > 17-year-old computer geek and Grade 12 student in
> > Victoria, British Columbia.
> >
> > Microsoft Corp. and its attorneys have demanded that
> > he give up his domain name, the Vancouver Province
> > newspaper reported Sunday.
> >
> > Rowe registered the name in August. In November, he
> > received a letter from Microsoft's Canadian lawyers,
> > Smart & Biggar, informing him he was committing
> > copyright infringement.
> >
> > He was advised to transfer the name to the Redmond,
> > Wash.-based corporation.
> >
> > "I didn't think they would get all their high-priced
> > lawyers to come after me," Rowe said.
> >
> > He wrote back asking to be compensated for giving up
> > his name. Microsoft's lawyers offered him $10 in U.S.
> > funds. Then he asked for $10,000.
> >
> > On Thursday, he received a 25-page letter accusing him
> > of trying to force Microsoft into giving him a large
> > settlement.
> >
> > "I never even thought of getting anything out of
> > them," he said, adding that he only asked for the
> > $10,000 because he was "sort of mad at them for only
> > offering 10 bucks."
> >
> > He said family and friends are backing him and a
> > lawyer has offered to advise him for free.
> >
> > He's also keeping his sense of humor.
> >
> > "It's not their name. It's my name. I just think it's
> > kind of funny that they'd go after a 17-year-old,"
> > Rowe said.
> >
> > Company spokesman Jim Desler said Sunday, "Microsoft
> > has been in communication with Mr. Rowe in a good
> > faith effort to reach a mutually agreeable resolution.
> > And we remain hopeful we can resolve this issue to
> > everyone's satisfaction."
> >
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> >
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