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BIO
Patrick Lichty is a digital intermedia artist, writer, and independent curator of over 15 years whose work comments upon the impact of technology on society and how it shapes the perception of the world around us. He works in diverse technological media, including activism, printmaking, kinetics, video, generative music, and neon. He is Editor-in Chief of Intelligent Agent, an electronic arts/culture journal, part of the activist group The Yes Men, and operates IALA Gallery in Baton Rogue, Louisiana.
Re: Net Art Market
I may or may not have replied, not because I consider it poison (which I
don't), but mainly in that I don't feel it asks any questions that
aren't out there from conceptualism.
Selling ephemeral art is not new, but it remains problematic.
Now, Toshio Iwai is selling New Media through game art like
Electroplankton (GameBoy DS) which is pretty popular in Japan.
Patrick Lichty
Editor-In-Chief
Intelligent Agent Magazine
http://www.intelligentagent.com
1556 Clough Street, #28
Bowling Green, OH 43402
225 288 5813
voyd@voyd.com
"It is better to die on your feet
than to live on your knees."
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From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf
Of Jason Van Anden
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:59 AM
To: list@rhizome.org
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Net Art Market
I posted a topic a while ago requesting "payment schemes for
digital/online art, sucessful or not". I got one email back -
privately.
I have a few theories as to why this topic may be considered poison, but
then again maybe it was bad timing or my choice of title. At any rate,
I feel this is a vitally important issue so I am giving it another try:
Does anyone out there know how to sell digital art? Examples would be
appreciated. If you consider this a toxic topic - could you clue me in
as to why you feel that way?
Jason Van Anden
www.smileproject.com
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don't), but mainly in that I don't feel it asks any questions that
aren't out there from conceptualism.
Selling ephemeral art is not new, but it remains problematic.
Now, Toshio Iwai is selling New Media through game art like
Electroplankton (GameBoy DS) which is pretty popular in Japan.
Patrick Lichty
Editor-In-Chief
Intelligent Agent Magazine
http://www.intelligentagent.com
1556 Clough Street, #28
Bowling Green, OH 43402
225 288 5813
voyd@voyd.com
"It is better to die on your feet
than to live on your knees."
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf
Of Jason Van Anden
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:59 AM
To: list@rhizome.org
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Net Art Market
I posted a topic a while ago requesting "payment schemes for
digital/online art, sucessful or not". I got one email back -
privately.
I have a few theories as to why this topic may be considered poison, but
then again maybe it was bad timing or my choice of title. At any rate,
I feel this is a vitally important issue so I am giving it another try:
Does anyone out there know how to sell digital art? Examples would be
appreciated. If you consider this a toxic topic - could you clue me in
as to why you feel that way?
Jason Van Anden
www.smileproject.com
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Re: adobe acquires macromedia
I can see things like Freehand folding into Illustrator. Adobe has the
ace
in Illustrator, there. I'm not aware of an Adobe tool, however, that's
comparable to Director--except Flash. But Flash is mainly for Web stuff
and
interesting as it is, it doesn't have the framerate that you can get in
Director. Nor the granularity. And the extensibility via Xtras. Nor 3D.
Nor
access down to the pixel concerning bitmaps. Nor the range of the
Director
audio API.
-> Yes, but that might not mean that Adobe might not 'somehow' see that
Director might not be a viable line. As mentioned, I think Director has
a solid niche; I'm just wondering.
Since Adobe doesn't have anything like Director, it's a question of
whether
they think the day has come that Flash can fulfill the needs of the
Director
market, and whether the Director market is big enough to bother with.
-> On the nose. Another scenario is to spin off Director to another
company.
The answer to the second, well, I hear
Flash outsells Director ten to one. So I suspect that the market size
will
be the more problematical issue. But I think Director has been making
money.
Nowhere near as much as Flash. But it isn't a losing business
proposition.
Yes, but it might not be as profitable as Adobe wants. Again, something
to watch.
Atode,
Patrick
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in Illustrator, there. I'm not aware of an Adobe tool, however, that's
comparable to Director--except Flash. But Flash is mainly for Web stuff
and
interesting as it is, it doesn't have the framerate that you can get in
Director. Nor the granularity. And the extensibility via Xtras. Nor 3D.
Nor
access down to the pixel concerning bitmaps. Nor the range of the
Director
audio API.
-> Yes, but that might not mean that Adobe might not 'somehow' see that
Director might not be a viable line. As mentioned, I think Director has
a solid niche; I'm just wondering.
Since Adobe doesn't have anything like Director, it's a question of
whether
they think the day has come that Flash can fulfill the needs of the
Director
market, and whether the Director market is big enough to bother with.
-> On the nose. Another scenario is to spin off Director to another
company.
The answer to the second, well, I hear
Flash outsells Director ten to one. So I suspect that the market size
will
be the more problematical issue. But I think Director has been making
money.
Nowhere near as much as Flash. But it isn't a losing business
proposition.
Yes, but it might not be as profitable as Adobe wants. Again, something
to watch.
Atode,
Patrick
Re: adobe acquires macromedia
> Oh, yes - I think we can then say goodbye to Director, most likely.
Why?
-> Because Director has been getting less airplay in industry and in the
technical press. One of the sure signs of an application that might be
on the way to discontinuation is a drop in numbers of technical books on
it. I'm not saying that this is a definitive proclamation; merely my
experience over 15-odd years. I sincerely hope it isn't the case, as I
just started seriously using it.
I don't know why Macromedia is letting themselves be acquired by Adobe,
really. Macromedia has the more interesting products, to my mind. I
don't
even use Photoshop anymore; i use CorelPaint. And PDFs are nice very
nice
but please. Adobe just hasn't got the Web or multimedia touch?
-> Exactly. I couldn't agree more. I would not be surprised if this
were not a hostile takeover as well.
As for Director, people have been saying it's gonna die any day now for
years. Yet there's still a lot of serious work done with it online and
offline. Mostly offline, actually. The Director lists are active and
sparklingly intelligent. So I guess we'll see how that goes. Bread
circuses
and mergers.
-> Again, I agree. I hope it keeps hanging on; my bet is that since
it's really the de facto standard for CD multimedia development, it'll
continue on.
ja
http://vispo.com
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Why?
-> Because Director has been getting less airplay in industry and in the
technical press. One of the sure signs of an application that might be
on the way to discontinuation is a drop in numbers of technical books on
it. I'm not saying that this is a definitive proclamation; merely my
experience over 15-odd years. I sincerely hope it isn't the case, as I
just started seriously using it.
I don't know why Macromedia is letting themselves be acquired by Adobe,
really. Macromedia has the more interesting products, to my mind. I
don't
even use Photoshop anymore; i use CorelPaint. And PDFs are nice very
nice
but please. Adobe just hasn't got the Web or multimedia touch?
-> Exactly. I couldn't agree more. I would not be surprised if this
were not a hostile takeover as well.
As for Director, people have been saying it's gonna die any day now for
years. Yet there's still a lot of serious work done with it online and
offline. Mostly offline, actually. The Director lists are active and
sparklingly intelligent. So I guess we'll see how that goes. Bread
circuses
and mergers.
-> Again, I agree. I hope it keeps hanging on; my bet is that since
it's really the de facto standard for CD multimedia development, it'll
continue on.
ja
http://vispo.com
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Re: adobe acquires macromedia
Now, this is very interesting!
I wonder about the cross-overs, such as Fireworks/Photoshop,
Dreamweaver & Adobe's web editor, etc. In My opinion, there iseems to
be a real possibility for horizontal monopoly.
Oh, yes - I think we can then say goodbye to Director, most likely.
Not sure I like this, but then, it's not for me to like.
Patrick Lichty
Editor-In-Chief
Intelligent Agent Magazine
http://www.intelligentagent.com
1556 Clough Street, #28
Bowling Green, OH 43402
225 288 5813
voyd@voyd.com
"It is better to die on your feet
than to live on your knees."
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From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf
Of Jim Andrews
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:14 AM
To: list@rhizome.org
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: adobe acquires macromedia
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2005/adobe_macromedia.html
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID
I wonder about the cross-overs, such as Fireworks/Photoshop,
Dreamweaver & Adobe's web editor, etc. In My opinion, there iseems to
be a real possibility for horizontal monopoly.
Oh, yes - I think we can then say goodbye to Director, most likely.
Not sure I like this, but then, it's not for me to like.
Patrick Lichty
Editor-In-Chief
Intelligent Agent Magazine
http://www.intelligentagent.com
1556 Clough Street, #28
Bowling Green, OH 43402
225 288 5813
voyd@voyd.com
"It is better to die on your feet
than to live on your knees."
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf
Of Jim Andrews
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:14 AM
To: list@rhizome.org
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: adobe acquires macromedia
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2005/adobe_macromedia.html
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID
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Patrick Lichty
Editor-In-Chief
Intelligent Agent Magazine
http://www.intelligentagent.com
1556 Clough Street, #28
Bowling Green, OH 43402
225 288 5813
voyd@voyd.com
"It is better to die on your feet
than to live on your knees.
Truly, Wonder Bread can inspire such miracles.
It is truly a miracle.
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Patrick Lichty
Editor-In-Chief
Intelligent Agent Magazine
http://www.intelligentagent.com
1556 Clough Street, #28
Bowling Green, OH 43402
225 288 5813
voyd@voyd.com
"It is better to die on your feet
than to live on your knees.
