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Re: were you trying to enjoy some nordic netarttoday?


Salt saltlakkris (saltliquorice) is the best.

Yes! artistic politics rather than political art!

Hinn 29.08.2002 kl. 19:33 ritadhi Max Herman:

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>
>
> links into nordic countries.
>
>
> Here's a picture of me in a nordic fjord:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/Conf2001.html
>
> I like SuperPiratos Saltlakrids, you still got those over there?
>
> Against the Nimzo you have to take with the queen on c3 and make
> numerous one-square queen moves. Plus my friend broke his ankle, toes
> are all green like a Terbruggan. I think green skin means "the undead."
>
> Also re Coco, I think politics should be more artistic, being a subset
> of art. Or, is politics the domain of force and "the possible"
> (Rice/Webber) only? I don't like that idea because it creates a large
> black hole of misery and fate.
>
> Pilot to bombadier, pilot to bombadier; bombs away buddy.
>
> ++
>
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Re: were you trying to enjoy some nordic netart today?


Yes, and if you try getting a chart of the Icelandic ports it says the
information doesn't exist. It looks like the other countries have other
connections coming in but for us, if the Cantat3 goes, we're out of
business.

I always thought the data was supposed to find itself a different route
but that doesn't appear to be the case for Iceland. Oh well.
Hinn 29.08.2002 kl. 18:54 ritadhi Ivan Pope:

> If you look at the map here (http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/), there=

> are
> at least three gigabit plus links into nordic countries. One comes
> through
> the UK. One down into Europe. I dont understand how you can be
> disconnected
> by losing one link, but then what do I know ...
>> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: were you trying to enjoy some nordic netart
>> today?
>>
>> I was wrong, they haven't fixed it yet. We're still on satellite. It
>> was
>> probably just the fact that there's less traffic in the evenings.
>> Anyway.
>> This satellite thing is slooowww when you have a whole country trying
>> to use
>> it at the same time. They have been talking about setting up another
>> line
>> for a couple of years now but it costs millions of dollars. I don't
>> know
>> about the linked wireless thing. There's no problem with inner country
>> connections. We can still see each other, we just can't see the rest
>> of the
>> world. Except in slow motion.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark River" <mriver102@yahoo.com>
>> To: "Ivan Pope" <ivan@ivanpope.com>; "Pall Thayer" <pall@fa.is>;
>> <list@rhizome.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: were you trying to enjoy some nordic netart
>> today?
>>
>>
>>> linked wireless area networks. no more fiberoptics.
>>> just a thought.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Ivan Pope <ivan@ivanpope.com> wrote:
>>>> I think the nordic countries should club together
>>>> and get a second line put
>>>> in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Due to a major malfunction in the so called Cantat3
>>>> underwater fiberoptic
>>>> line most of the nordic countries have been pretty
>>>> much limited to local net
>>>> traffic today. Likewise, anyone trying to view a
>>>> nordic webpage most likely
>>>> ran into problems. Here in Iceland they did manage
>>>> to setup a backup
>>>> connection via satelite links but it's been really
>>>> slow. The Cantat3 handles
>>>> network connections for Iceland, the Faroe Islands,
>>>> the UK and most of
>>>> Scandinavia. But they appear to have fixed it now so
>>>> go ahead and enjoy some
>>>> nordic netart today.
>>>>
>>>> Pall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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http://www.this.is/pallit
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Re: Re:


I'm no lawyer but Rhizomes decision to reward someone a grant probably
doesn't have anything to do with any kind of law except for what is
agreed to in a contract. I doubt that Rhizome has any legal grounds for
revoking the grant, which is what it sounds like VR wants them to do. If
VR feels cheated out of his share of some money then he'll have to take
that to court himself. This whole ordeal really has little to do with
Rhizomes integrity since they awarded the grant in good faith. What
happened to VR is something that happens to lots of people. They do
something, forget to make sure that their rights to the work are
protected, someone else steals it from them and makes some money. I
think the only thing you can do about it is make sure it doesn't happen
next time. It's a big fat bummer but that's life.

Pall

Hinn 26.08.2002 kl. 16:23 ritadhi John Klima:

>
> hi v & all,
>
> for the sake of argument, i'm going to continue to assume
> "collaborative" means an equal share. i'm also trying to look at the
> problem in the abstract and not the specifics of this case.
>
> vishal R wrote:
> ...
>
>> However, if it is still construed that this a co-authored work, I do
>> not understand how one of them can start building on it without the
>> others permission and without informing him/ her. Is that not
>> unethical, if not illegal? Specially when the co-authors have not
>> abandoned the project, or are deceased, or become mentally or
>> physically unstable and incapable of executing the project.
>>
>
> firstly, nothing is "illegal" here if there wasn't an agreement about
> ownership/authorship in the first place. this can be nothing more than a
> verbal agreement, and then it goes off to a civil court where it gets
> resolved. not likely in this situation so the question becomes a purely
> ethical one. if, lets say, me and my wife have a baby and then a
> divorce, who gets the baby? unless she or i is a complete incompetant,
> we both do. perhaps my ex-wife keeps and cares for the child but i still
> have visiting rights. whether she likes it or not, i can take the kid to
> the zoo without her.
>
>> How can we both - she and me "also" - develop something independently
>> which is based on a common premise which is the basis of the work? It
>> would be like a film project with a co-written film script which one
>> of the collaborators steals and starts making a film on. When the
>> other guy tries to make a film on the same script the work would lose
>> its credibility and the respectability and merit for its uniqueness.
>> Then it would become a fight between who releases their film first.
>> The second guy will get totally discredited, be looked upon as
>> plagiarizer etc.
>>
>
> that's a bad example because that kind of thing actually happens all the
> time, and when money is at stake, it goes to court. but back to the
> ethical issue, if author A takes the script to a studio who endorse it
> and want to make the movie, does author B have the right to reject the
> offer even if author A finds it acceptable? under normal circumstances,
> A and B would hash it out and some conclusion would be reached. however,
> if B is completely unreasonable, thinks that script is worth 3 million
> instead of 1 million and refuses to accept anything less, what recourse
> is available to author A who feels like 1 million is plenty good enough?
> so to me, it seems that the converse isn't right either.
>
> yes, its not so nice if partner A takes a collaborative piece and
> develops it independently, but its also not so nice if partner B
> categorically refuses to allow it.
>
>
> best,
> j
> + nungu shmungu
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Pall Thayer
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artist/teacher
Fjolbrautaskolanum vidh Armula (www.fa.is)
http://www.this.is/pallit
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Re: Flash Explores New Angles


I saw this guy present some of his stuff a couple of months ago and he
had some really nice pieces but I agree. This was not one of the better
ones.

Hinn 20.08.2002 kl. 20:34 ritadhi t.whid:

> i'd like to go on record that i hated this piece. i didn't watch half
> of it. extremely boring.
>
> if i had been on a dialup, i'd have felt totally ripped off as opposed
> to just ripped off ;-)
>
> > > http://www.iamstatic.com/randy/love_me
> > >
> > > randy Knott
> > >
> > > http://iamstatic.com
> > >
> > >
>
> --
>
> <twhid>
> http://www.mteww.com
> </twhid>
>
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Pall Thayer
myndlistamadhur/kennari
artist/teacher
Fjolbrautaskolanum vidh Armula (www.fa.is)
http://www.this.is/pallit
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Shameless self-promotion:

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