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a small new work IV


Fourth in a series of small self portraits.
This has sound.

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michael

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DISCUSSION

Re: War


Eryk
In my experience every act of protest , of resistance
makes a difference.
Furthermore every act of resistance is a living
memorial to the Rachel Corries of this world.
Here in the UK it's clear that protest has made the
prosecution of war harder for the government and hence
made it easier for us to go on resisting.
In Turkey it's abundantly clear that the popular
demonstrations stopped the first attempt to station US
troops there.
People should not forget the experience of Vietnam:
the most powerful nation in the world humbled by a rag
tag peasant army, a protest movement at home and a
revolt in it's own armed forces.
Nothing has essentially changed -it still remains the
case that "we are many -they are few". What we mustn't
do is either lose heart, believe their "we are all
powerful" propaganda or start to feel guilty about the
amount that we are able to do -through guilt lies
paralysis.
So concretely what can people do ?
Find fellow minded war resisters, build activity
against the war, however small ( the first
demonstrations against the Vietnam war were tiny),
link up with other local and national organisations
who are doing the same thing, draw ever widening
circles of people in.
Sounds simple, and in one sense it is, but in
practice it requires thought and perseverence.
Actually this time in terms of the movement we start
from a much *higher* level than ever before: 15th Feb
in particular was a world historic day.
Of course the movement in the real world is messy , is
awkward and is populated by human beings who
consistently fail to conform to our preconceptions but
of course it is precisely the murders of those sorts
of folk we are struggling to prevent.
I was out this morning handing out flyers at our local
college to organise a protest rally the day when ( as
it now looks will happen) war comes.
The response from the 16-19 year olds was brilliant.
Here are some jpegs

http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/picket/picket.html

of a picket of our pro war MP that happened here on
Saturday - about 70 people at it's height,
overwhelmingly supported by passers by, a modest event
but one which forms a further link in the chain of
resistance.
If I thought it was not possible to struggle ( and
eventually successfully) for a decent world I would
not want to be alive.
best
Michael

--- Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> Rachel Corrie got run over by a bulldozer when she
> stood with a bright
> orange jumper and a bullhorn in front of a
> Palestinian home that was being
> demolished.
>
> That means I have lost my right to sit around and
> complain whilst doing
> nothing. In fact, in light of Rachel Corrie, I have
> to wonder if I actually
> even give a shit about war. Because if I cared, I
> could be in front of a
> Palestinian bulldozer too.
>
> I would love to think I do, and I think a lot of
> other people do too, but I
> for one do nothing except write emails and complain
> about it, and that seems
> to me, a hell of a lot like not caring. This is not
> something I am proud of,
> but it is something I want to understand. If I knew
> what empathy was instead
> of pretending I knew what it was because I know how
> to commiserate, I might
> be better at it, but that is an essential gender
> difference between men and
> women. It's no excuse though, however I can say that
> I don't really know how
> to make myself feel empathy.
>
> Rachel Corries murder to me is as huge as September
> 11th. It is the totally
> comprehensible sequel. An American who has no ties
> to Palestine except for
> her own outrage at Palestinian slaughter goes to a
> non violent protest in an
> area that most people literally kill to get out of,
> and then she is
> deliberately run over by an Israeli Tractor. Our
> "allies" are Nazis, and I
> am sitting outside Auschwitz writing emails about
> how bummed out I am by it,
> pretending that makes a difference- or that any
> action "against war" is
> going to make any difference. Maybe there is
> something beautiful in false
> empowerment, but I don't know what it is anymore, in
> fact, all of it seems
> like pissing on thier graves. I want to know what
> the alternative is to my
> own apathy, the apathy I have when I am not
> pretending I am a compassionate
> person, because a compassionate person does more
> than this. Is it part of my
> own work to just sit aside and look at how I look at
> it until I am blue in
> the face? The desire to rush out and control the
> things I don't like is
> overpowering sometimes. I don't know what the right
> thing to do about it is.
> But I know that it isn't writing about it on a
> mailing list, which seems to
> be the big thing these days.
>
> Iraqi men and women may be huddled together waiting
> for bombs to drop on
> thier heads; or to have all your oxygen sucked out
> by a "daisy" cutter, but
> thier life means so much to me that I- a moderately
> well known internet
> artist- wrote an email about it, so they should be
> grateful. Better yet,
> maybe I will make some art about it. That will
> really elevate thier deaths
> by transformation.
>
> I have this creeping suspicion lately that GW Bush
> actually "knows" that war
> is bad! Also that war is pretty useless, but that he
> is choosing to do it
> anyway, because he can, and because he really
> believes it is better for the
> world that he does it, and that he isn't even really
> thinking about the oil
> so much as what a good place this planet will be
> when Saddam is gone. So I
> don't know if GW Bush is "overhearing" our
> conversations at rhizome, but if
> he is, I think I should try to say something even
> more relevant than how bad
> war is, since like I said, I think he knows, in fact
> he probably knows more
> than all of us know. But you know what, I know
> pretty much a lot of stuff
> about war, and GW does too, and I am not doing
> anything, so I guess I can't
> expect GW to, either.
>
> What I would like to be is to simply become a place
> where war stops. Because
> peace is pretty awesome, sure, people know that,
> too, usually. Peace is cool
> because no one is trying to control anyone and no
> one is super crazy hung up
> on right or wrong or what should be or what
> shouldn't be and what roles
> people are supposed to play in thier own lives. But
> like I said, people know
> peace is cool and they know that clouds are nice to
> look at. But peace is
> awesome because you can do it yourself by creating a
> place where there is no
> war. For me, that is going to be my head. This is
> probably going to be
> pretty hard really, but I have a sneaking suspicion
> that even working on
> that will be a lot more productive than what I have
> been doing, which is
> sending emails to a bunch of people who have no
> power over the course of the
> war, and reading a lot of stuff so that I can be
> well informed about the
> stuff I am doing nothing about. I think between the
> two choices, the
> decision I want to make is pretty obvious.
>
> Cheers,
> -er.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rachel Greene" <rachel@rhizome.org>
> To: "rhizome list" <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:14 PM
> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: New Art Ideas Update
>
>
> > > since it seems to be a slow day here on Rhizome,
> > >
> > thanks dude. I don't know about anyone else, but I
> am so gutted by the
> news
> > I can't really think straight.
> >
> > We didn't even elect this guy! And his arrogance
> and disregard for public
> > opinion -- it often doesn't seem real.
> >
> > My last white hope is that senators will en masse
> resign causing an
> internal
> > crisis, a la British Minister Cook, but that IS
> completely unlikely.
> >
> > politically depressed, rachel
> >
> > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re:hypertext work


yes- it's beautiful.
thanks for pointing it out.
michael
--- doron golan <doron@computerfinearts.com> wrote:
> I like the work of michael atavar. it's simple,
> delicate and poetic. check out 'thethingasitis'.
> http://www.atavar.com/thethingasitis/
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
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DISCUSSION

a small new work


The latest in what seems to be becoming a series of
small self portraits.
This one has sound.
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michael

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DISCUSSION

Re: Some New Work


Ivan
I think 'Clutter' is an extraordinarily beautiful
piece of work.
I'm not sure how much a description of how it's made
either adds or subtracts from that beauty for me - I
seem to remember you saying somewhere you were
interested in the crossing points between the digital
and the material ( forgive me if I misquote you from
memory). Clutter has such a powerful feel of
materiality.
It seems perverse to say that the Guantanamo bay piece
is also beautiful -but the main image, with its
collage like feeling gives an overpowering sense of
the fragility of those human beings whom our allies
are torturing there -I don't know whether that's an
intentional resonance of the title- and in that sense
in it's affirmation of the humanity of those victims I
think it is 'beautiful'.
I'm a bit confused by the calling up other pages thing
here, I'm not sure the image itself isn't so strong
that you ought to take the risk of being unidiomatic
for the net or whatever.
Anyway, work in progress or no, I found the pieces
very moving.
Michael
--- Ivan Pope <ivan@ivanpope.com> wrote:
> 3 new net.works
> Clutter and Cabinet are webcam installations.They
> currently sit in my studio. They are designed to go
> into live spaces, but do not as yet have anywhere to
> go. They are both somewhat unstable, with good
> reason. If they don't seem to be alive, come back
> later. That is the nature of the net, and that is
> the nature of my work.
> Fragile is an html installation that also, and more
> specifically, has instability built into it. I
> thought I might as well get it out now, even though
> it is a work in progress.
> Thanks,
> Ivan
>
> Clutter
> Mixed media installation with web cams and computer.
> 200 x 200 x 200 cm. A round table is covered with
> collected bric a brac. The table can be manually
> rotated. Two webcams view the surface of the table,
> one from each side. Every three minutes the active
> camera changes. Every six minutes an image is
> uploaded in sequence to the work. 100 archival
> images are laid end to end, increasing in size by
> six pixels at each image. These images form a look
> back at the recent history of the table. It takes
> ten hours for the entire sequence to renew. The
> table is only rotated when I am in the space, and
> then intermittently. I also move the clutter on the
> table occasionally.
> http://www.ivanpope.com/cams/twincams/history2.html
> http://www.ivanpope.com/cams/clutter/
>
>
> Cabinet
> A glass cabinet containing a webcam on a motorized
> pod and an assortment of toys. The webcam is
> controllable from the web.
> Visitors from the web can look around and take
> pictures. They are looking both internally and
> externally at the cabinet. In other words, visitors
> to the cabinet in the analogue world become part of
> the exhibit in the digital world. Visitors from the
> street see the cabinet and its contents. They also
> see the webcam in motion as digital visitors come
> and go. They can also see the web view of
> proceedings on the computer screen.
> http://81.86.241.132:8090/remote6/
> http://www.ivanpope.com/cams/cabinet/index.html
>
> Fragile
> It is in the nature of our systems to be fragile.
> I thought this would be a simple work that played on
> the fragile nature of the web and entangled a
> comment on the limits of power. I am interested in
> the nature of broken. That the web never works
> properly, but that this is its design and also one
> of its joys. Further, it seems that the breaks in
> the web are incomprehensible to us, that we never
> really can understand where things went: possibly
> because we dont understand where they came from in
> the first place.
> http://www.ivanpope.com/fragile/index.html
>
>
> --
> Ivan Pope
> ivan@ivanpope.com
> www.ivanpope.com
> www.tochki-inc.com
>
> "Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes
> the fear of death"
> Hunter S. Thompson
>

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