Michael Szpakowski
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Re: Fwd: http://www.furtherfield.org/mgarrett/turmoil/


..& that's great too! -what a productive time
furtherfield are going through.
michael
> and this. from. marcGarrett. of further.field!
> http://www.furtherfield.org/mgarrett/turmoil/

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Re: alijazeera blocked-Rushing past the local news


that's a great piece of work Ruth!
michael
--- ruth catlow <ruth.catlow@furtherfield.org> wrote:
> Rushing past the local news
> explores emotion in information, and links to local
> news around the world.
>
>
http://www.furtherfield.org/rcatlow/converse/documents/rushing.htm
>
> ruth
> www.furtherfield.org
>
> Michael Szpakowski wrote:
>
> > yep -I tried a whole number of url's and the only
> one
> > which comes up is the russian one.
> > Nice to know our rulers have such confidence in
> the
> > freedom of speech they claim to defend.
> > michael
> > --- "marc.garrett" <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
> > wrote:
> > > Blocked...
> > >
> > >
> > > http://english.aljazeera.net/
> > >
> > >
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Re: alijazeera blocked


yep -I tried a whole number of url's and the only one
which comes up is the russian one.
Nice to know our rulers have such confidence in the
freedom of speech they claim to defend.
michael
--- "marc.garrett" <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
wrote:
> Blocked...
>
>
> http://english.aljazeera.net/
>
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Re: Trivial Connections [excuse the up-its-own-backside intro]


that's fantastic Jess! - visually stunning and a
really rich piece of work. You have a painter's eye (
a compliment, in my book)
michael

--- Jess Loseby <jess@rssgallery.com> wrote:
> Trivial Connections Jess Loseby
>
http://www.rssgallery.com/trivialconnections/trivialconnections.html
>
>
>
> Trivial connections is a networked installation,
> which maps the comparisons between
> the network in its frustrations, attention to
> triviality and repetition as absurdly
> compatible to the female domestic routine. The
> networks positioning as primarily a
> communication medium is signifed by the babble of
> children, the movement of
> individuals within the bitstreams as playful

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Get your "NO WAR" on


Clearly you'e have to be massively deluded to think
tht by one's art alone a difference can be made.
Artists are not ,however ,somehow magically insulated
from the world outside and I personally find it
heartening that there is so much discussion of that
outside world here - it's not like it excludes
discussion of art.
I don't understand why people think it's so difficult
to take a stand and simultaeneously be an artist -I
don't go to demos , or organizing committees or
whatever & say "I'm an artist" - I go as a human being
.
I absolutely agree that art is not at it's best when
it's simply agitational -that's why although I have
been deeply involved in the anti war movt, I've made
little work directly about it.
One last point over the "No War" page - fine - put up/
don't put up whatever you like -it's not a contest-
but if your conscience tells you this war is wrong
then do *something* about it.
A start would be the marches in NY and London ( and
I'm sure elsewhere) this Saturday.
regards
michael

--- FeeDickson@aol.com wrote:
> Artists can obviously make a response to war, but
> there is little point in
> them ranting about how bad they think it all is.
>
> 'Even worse is to get all introspective, 'oh god, I
> am so impotent in the
> face of all this horribleness'. Yes we are, but so
> what, we always were.
>
> If you believe in art and in your art, you need to
> go on doing what you have
> always done and not become an activist just because
> there is this
> overwhelming media story about.'
>
> Couldn't agree more. If you want to be a
> polittician, go be one. If you want
> to be a protest marcher, go be one. I f you want to
> instigate social changes,
> go and do it. Just don't please delude yourself you
> can change the world
> through your 'art', especially in these days of
> cynicism (the general
> public's cynicism towards art in particular). These
> days are gone, if indeed
> they ever exsisted.
>
> Art is not social work. Art is not even
> particularly socially relevant,
> especially in it's 'highest' forms. The artist's
> role is not to reform the
> world but reflect it, hopefully in new and thought
> provoking ways. To believe
> otherwise is naivete at it's most extreme.
>
> I wrote earlier (poss accidentally didn't post to
> the list en masse) that I
> thought this was an art forum, not an american news
> forum. I am still
> frustrated by the number of irrelevant links posted.
> This does not mean I am
> politically unaware or hiding from the issues - I am
> just not convinced that
> the american media's take on the upcoming conflict
> should be the main topic
> for discussion on a new media arts forum.
>
> Having said that, I would say that I watched 5 hours
> unadulterated uncensored
> solid debate in the British house of commons
> yesterday prior to their vote to
> go to war. I began watching sceptical, I came away
> asured that whatever I
> thought of the decision made personally, those 600+
> elected men and women had
> crosssed political boundaries to wrestle with their
> own consciensces, the
> views of their constituents, and the future
> consequences of their actions
> before voting. They may not have made the decision I
> liked, but I was at
> least reasssured that democracy lived, rhetoric
> still existed in the best
> platonic sense, and that my home country at least
> did not decide their course
> of action arbitrarily, dependent on the views of the
> few above the many.
> Living in France as I do right now, I no longer need
> to hide my head in shame
> as much...I don't think their actions have been
> particularly well thought out
> or debated quite so extensively.
>
> Enough said . Is this list about politics or art?
> they are not, however much
> artists may like to believe it, in any way closely
> affiliated. Use your views
> to feed your art, don't waste my PC time with links
> I can get elsewhere.
>
> Fee
> <A
>
HREF="http://www.pbase.com/fee">http://www.pbase.com/fee</A>
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