manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic
Since 2002
Works in United States of America

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BIO
Belgrade artists Marija Vauda and Nikola Pilipovic have been
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.

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Re: i had no yoko ono


YOKO ONO&PLASTIC ONO MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Cloninger" <curt@lab404.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:46 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: i had no yoko ono

> the meat puppets were my allman brothers
> the minutemen were my mingus
> roald dahl was my robert louis stevenson
> vaughan oliver was my david carson
> nick cave was my bob dylan
> lou reed was my bruce springsteen
> athens georgia was my greenwich village
> entropy8.com was my jodi.org
> neil young was my walt whitman
> lester bangs was my thoreau
> bosch was my dali
> the stooges were my grateful dead
> arvo part was my john cage
> captain beefheart was my duke ellington
> the secret garden was my paradise lost
> terry gilliam was my fellini
> emily dickinson was my ferlinghetti
> augustine was my derrida
> henry rollins was my nietzsche
> radiohead was my sartre
> coltrane was my coltrane
> i had no yoko ono
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DISCUSSION

Re: Liminality


5. Library "Brikolage"
The books we suggest are Georges Battaille

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Liminality


Yes,divide!You are not so stupid as I tought.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
<joseph@electrichands.com>
To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
Cc: <thingist@BBS.THING.NET>; <7-11@mail.ljudmila.org>;
<nettime-l@BBS.THING.NET>; <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:33 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Liminality

> Quoting manik <manik@ptt.yu>:
>
>
>
> > MANIK
> > ...provokes, makes transparent the different indexes of minority
> > (woman-minority, artist-minority, artistic action-minority,
> > number-minority,
> > nation-minority, personality/individual-minority, choice-minority).
Thus
> > it
> > corresponds with my status and life/the production of meaning in that
> > status, in that zone. That is why I decided, once again, to rhetorically
> > advocate the Space /Zone which cannot be inhabited (VERWERFUNG). It is
> > that socially unacceptable space that I choose, mostly isolated but
densely
> > populated and because of all the characteristics necessary in order to
> > define, describe and expand the area of the subject. Aware how much the
> > role
> > of the subject is subversive in regards to cloned and hypnotic social
> > contracts on which the history of gender is in most cases based.
> > Kopakabana-Apocalipsa-Adis Abeba-Stay always with me
>
>
> Lets divide and divide and divide and divide and divide until we find out
there
> is several billion minority groups each composed of one. Then each group
can
> fight for their own religion, country, and shoe style preference.
>
> --
> Joseph Franklyn McElroy
> Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]T
> Electric Hands, Inc
> 212.255.4527
> www.electrichands.com
> joseph@electrichands.com
>
>
>
>
> Did you read all that in a book, or did you make it up all by your own
self.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
> > <joseph@electrichands.com>
> > To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> > Cc: <thingist@BBS.THING.NET>; <7-11@mail.ljudmila.org>;
> > <nettime-l@BBS.THING.NET>; <list@rhizome.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Liminality
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Quoting manik <manik@ptt.yu>:
> > >
> > > > take
> > > > sides.But"Donky always take grass,not gold"(Heraclit,fragment
9).Shall
> > we
> > > > start talking with LIONS,or eat grass? Is up to us.
> > > > MANIK
> > >
> > >
> > > Almost forty years ago, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, who was then serving as
> > Pakistan's
> > > Foreign Minister, famously declared "even if Pakistanis have to eat
grass
> > we
> > > will make the bomb." Since then, India and Pakistan have fought two
> > > conventional wars and now have nuclear weapons poised to complete the
> > short
> > > five-minute arc to the other's national capital.
> > >
> > > Changing the nature of humans will not work, we are neither Lions or
> > Donkeys.
> > > We eat grass and spit fire. It is the vision we follow, the dream of
> > the
> > > future both here and after, how to achieve a
> > comfortable/acclaimed/safe/etc
> > > place in it. The formula/pattern of our lives... we need new life
> > scientists,
> > > creating new visions.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Joseph Franklyn McElroy
> > > Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]T
> > > Take the survey they are all talking about...
> > > http://www.electrichands.com/genius2000
> > > Electric Hands, Inc
> > > 212.255.4527
> > > www.electrichands.com
> > > joseph@electrichands.com
> > >
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DISCUSSION

Re: Liminality


Dear Marc,I'm going to use this oportunity to say something to all
"chat"rhizomers.It was nice to spend some time with you.
We can made endless diskusion about ewerything,but what's the point?I'm
45.obwisly all the athers are younger.My agly&agresive behiwe/stile was with
purpose.So,Max if you want to became genius,pretend that you are.And you
will be one day(S.Daly).Natalie,you are wery sensitive.Hardest for me was to
hurt you.Joseph,off course:you are Popaye The Sailer,also&same time you are
Oliva,whatewer you want to bee.Your hart is full of love and thats most
important.Curt,Plumber is caracter from Peter Weir early film(I dont
remember name,but it's from his Australian period),thank's for your few
words.
Marc,I'm waiting for my translater to see what's exectly in your
message.Anyway,instead diferent point of wiew, I like you all.
Thank you for Oscar.(Tiers,he look et phalusoid phigure,speachless,dan
ewerybady stay on legs.Big aplaus.Tiers in public.)
DEAD END=RISING HOPE
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "furtherfield" <info@furtherfield.org>
To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>; <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Liminality

> Phirst for mann kind is to realized to
> contemplate esential issues how to becam human been."
>
> I agree...
>
> marc
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DISCUSSION

Re: Liminality


Considering time as a speed betwen"not yet"and"not
anymore"(M.M.Ponty;Phenomenologie de la perception,1945)is ,as we see,an
anciant idea.Folowing that issue in "new phaenomenology"way we can find some
interesting things.E.Husserl
prononce his"Third Path"(1914)as a"non objective,as well as non
psychic"way(best source:Jean-Francois Lyotard-La Phenomenologie,1954).He
intend to doo something to stop great war.Butt,we are in XXI century ,in
permanent war.Tran-Duk-Tao("Marxism et Phenomenologie",Revue
internationale,!9??)responde to Husserl:"Generaly, to make Revolution is not
to established new economy.Phirst for mann kind is to realized to
contemplate esential issues how to becam human been."Realy,it's time to take
sides.But"Donky always take grass,not gold"(Heraclit,fragment 9).Shall we
start talking with LIONS,or eat grass? Is up to us.
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
<joseph@electrichands.com>
To: <thingist@BBS.THING.NET>; <7-11@mail.ljudmila.org>;
<nettime-l@BBS.THING.NET>; <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:30 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Liminality

> >From the Greek word limnos, meaning "threshold," liminality describes and
in-
> between time when what was, is no longer, and what will be, is not yet.
>
> It is a rich and creative time, a destructive time. We must form a
vision,
> like unto a religion, yet not one, of a new world that will be.
>
> Our vision will embrace a multi-theism world order, no preference or
priority
> given. Our vision will understand a discipline of selflessness, balanced
with
> the needs of the individual. Our vision will promote an economy of
networks,
> small nodes, less property, more distribution.
>
> Fill in the blanks for us.
>
> --
> Joseph Franklyn McElroy
> Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]T
> Take the survey they are all talking about...
> http://www.electrichands.com/genius2000
> Electric Hands, Inc
> 212.255.4527
> www.electrichands.com
> joseph@electrichands.com
>
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