I think I've made my point. Next topic.
Joseph Franklyn McElroy Said,
"I don't give it away, I license it freely to the world. I don't care much
if some are crumbs are made...but if someone finds a gold mine, I reckon I
will be knockin' at their door."
on 8/3/02 11:19 AM, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance]
Art[ist] at email@example.com
> Quoting firstname.lastname@example.org:
>> Hi Joe
> Oh no, not Joe. Joseph if you please. Joe I left in forgotten trees.
>> I see and understand where you are coming from and for the most part am down
>> with what you are saying. I did introduce my statements playing dr. evil.
>> But for instance I am not a corporation and outside of Lawyers for the
>> Creative Arts, I do not have a lawyer.
> Da point is that the DA position is well known and easily argued. But "I am
> going git my lawyer and sue" stuff doesn't really wash - only the rich and
> powerful can do it. So da poor devil advocates need to stop a usin' dem
> fighting words. It is like dem trees I forgot, all bark.
>> But why should WE...working artists let others make money off of our hard
>> work and ideas. Art is a business, this is how I pay the rent. Its fraud that
>> most galleries take 50% commission for doing basically nothing (No other
>> business in the world that takes such high commission) I'm not a trust fund
>> kid that doesn't need to worry about paying the bills. It takes time and
>> money to make art, upgrade computers, play the game to get the deal that
>> pushes us forward. I look forward to the day i dont need to worry about money
>> or the game. Believe me I give my art and Ideas away freely most of the time,
>> but that is my choice. I believe its your choice too.
> I don't give it away, I license it freely to the world. I don't care much if
> some are crumbs are made...but if someone finds a gold mine, I reckon I will
> knockin' at their door. My pov, if individually we worry about control so
> it don't really mean a hill of beans, however, when that control becomes
> corporate, looking for every little patent and copyright, using the
> artists right" as political cover, we end up getting this repressive and
> unequal society.
> So I stop using the "I want what's coming to me" stance.
>> All I'm saying is WE need to cover ourselves so that We're not taken
>> advantage of. I'm only talking about the large multinational corporations but
>> also by the budding little indy-cool business men and woman that have already
>> had a taste of a little money through the internet boom.
> Man, we are all taken advantage of on a regular basis...life would become
> unbearable if we couldn't find little ways to take advantage of each other.
> Legislating every thing into non-advantage taking is again repressive.
>> Property is an issue. Ideas are another. It is the system that is currently
>> in place. A system that doesn't need to be brought down, but a system that
>> need to be reconfigured for NOW. The Squats were burned down a long time ago
>> and even if they were'nt, I'm not willing to live with the junkies anymore.
>> Been there, done that, thank you.
> Ideas are squats. Should be free for everybody.
>> Oh and by the way, even though the end of the world may be near, It aint
>> happenin for a while so we should figure out how to get dinner tonight and
>> breakfast in the morning. Ever wonder how to take out a tank without heavy
> A practical person, I see. Lets compromise because this is how the world
> works. Dig large holes.
>> Watch out for those sun spots they make folks do strange things.
> I don't need em.