Here are a couple good places to start. How can these theories be applied
towards a new ideology. What are the foundations already in place that can
be modified to apply to a new international movement (art/political/etc)http://www.un.orghttp://www.nothingness.org/http://www.critical-art.net/http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/visfront/vizindex.htmlhttp://www.earth-today.com/
I can only understand in part how our understandings of Revolution differ
and what went on in Belgrade and the rest of the region you live in. I ask
questions to myself about location and what is my part in all of this, an
American artist living in New York City.
As a US Army veteran of the Gulf War. As an Earth First Activist, a Husband.
I think we all must define our locations within ourselves, Where do we
stand, where are we flexable.
I would like to think about this some more and get back to you.
Hows the weather in Belgrade today. It was pretty nice here in NYC. I think
people on the streets are a bit nervous with 911 coming up in a couple days.
I pray nothing happens again.
on 9/9/02 5:31 PM, manik at firstname.lastname@example.org
I'm not so glad that you "agree".Insted I realy expect something alse.What
is problem?You agree with what?First of all is to make conversation clear as
it posible."Revolution"!Where?On net.?In art
generaly,world/words,sociaty,economy...What power do we need to make that
word understabile?What's our resource,or where can we find them?What is
object/subject of our atention?I live in very hard place(Belgrade,Serbia)and
so caled "revolution"two years ago was joke.But war and bombing
was'n.There's many levels of understabile "reality".I dont know.For
begining,I sugest something interesting:"Anti-tecnologies of Resistance"from
Alexander Brener&Barbara Schurz-http://subsol.c3.hu/subsol_2/contributors/brenertext.html
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: I second that notion (Stop the hate, spread
I totally agree
on 9/9/02 8:44 AM, manik at email@example.com
That's we want:to show endles stupidity of ad infinitum ego trips.REVOLUTION
is key word.But,we wonder how to aproach to this term "revolution"(in generl
way),without make playground?Also,we stadied about posibiliti to "make
revolution".Tricky thing(see R.Barthes, for example).In MANIK-s case chat
with Kandiskij was sucesfully way to make clear important issue.This person
was kind of triger for reaction like yours,and,posibly somebody alse.So,we
dont hate,actualy I like hisreric&fluxfull people like karei,but he/she is
wery artistic(it's nice,on some twisted way).If somebody answer to this
atempt to make posible dialogue about revolution(whatewer it is),we are goin
to be carefuly listeners.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lee Wells <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: Joao Pedro <mailto:email@example.com> ; firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:05 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: I second that notion (Stop the hate, spread the love)
I do wonder why artists have such a hard time getting along with each other.
Please put your egos to rest and lets all try to be constructive towards
Critique dont insult. For the most part this list is great but I really hate
having to delete most of the messages due to childish rants and raves. I
think we are above the level of an aol teen chat room.
I hope the others that have been sitting on the rhizome fringes will come
forth and let the kids know enough is enough. We've got a revolution to
The time was now, now its then!
on 9/8/02 5:19 PM, Joao Pedro at email@example.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Joao Pedro <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>
Cc: Oliveira Pereira <mailto:email@example.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 10:06 PM
Subject: RHIZOME RAW: affirmation against reaction
Some people seems haven't nothing better to do than insulting each other,
in a negative reaction, with a segregatives sentences or with the famous
"no", the terrible "no" than i reject in absolute!
You know one thing? This expression of reaction, make me laugh, with a
Dionysus joy, the affirmation of live and i said: be positive, making
things, don't insulting, don't answer to another with the fascist "no"!
Joao Pedro firstname.lastname@example.org http://oliveirapereira1.no.sapo.pt