Jeremy Zilar
Since 2003
Works in Brooklyn United States of America

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I am an artist an photographer living in Brooklyn, NY.
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Re: randomness


Color's Torrid Function! wrote:

>--does the inclusion of random elements in an artwork
>indicate a certain ontology of the art experience?
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>--why introduce random elements into art?
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It is the dialog that we have with the process of observing of
ourselves. The observed self, or the object, performance, process being
created is a clear reflection of ourselves, and when we are able to gain
that distance, we become more aware of what is going on inside, we make
changes,. and then we correct the reflection to mirror ourselves once
again.
Randomness does not occur. It is a controlled element that somehow
figures in to the image that we have of ourselves.
Even when things do happen by chance, we immediately incorporate that
action into the image and judge it's relationship to the whole, and
juxtapose the whole to ourselves. If it doesnt fit, we remove it.

>--are we, when creating art, STILL simply mimicing
>non-man-made pneomena?
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Hearing this,.. makes me question you ideas about nature,. and man.
Isnt Man-Made a phenomena of nature?

>--are these even the right questions?
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they are always the right questions.
-jeremy

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DISCUSSION

Re: Steve Kurtz on Fox


fox has been wierd lately...
people have been commenting on how they have been supportive of very
liberal leanining issues lately.
HMMmmmmm

it is something to watch.
-me

eduardo@navasse.net wrote:

>I also saw the report while channel surfing. The website has also been
>updated with more information: http://www.caedefensefund.org/overview.html#070804
>where some scientists actually comment on the situation.
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>Eduardo Navas
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>>Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 20:42:00 -0400 (EDT)
>>From: Joy Garnett <joyeria@walrus.com>
>>To: list@rhizome.org
>>Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Steve Kurtz on Fox
>>Reply-To: Joy Garnett <joyeria@walrus.com>
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>>um, that's right, I actually was watching that thing called "Fox News"
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>>ever heard of it? Spawn of Satan. Anyway, they had the whole thing, the
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>>whole story. They painted Steve as a victim, referred to him respectfully
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>>as "the professor" and basically pegged the government's actions as
>>desperate measures to save face. They had snippets of supportive
>>interviews. Even Fox thinks it's a pile of steaming shit. Fuckin' Hell.
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DISCUSSION

-/+


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It is so much easier to communicate with someone I dont relate with at
all, than someone I share a great deal of things in common with.

-me

http://silencematters.com/shhhh/2004/06/blog-post.html

DISCUSSION

Re: Blog vs Board (re: Blogging Survey)


I dont understand RSS enough,. but it seems like it would be a happy
medium in between the two.
And besides, any system has flaws, which will ultimately be exploited
and used to create beautiful havoc. And if those flaws are not being
exploited, then we will be here to see that they are.
Let it change and evolve, and move on.
I am more interested in seeing what things come out of a change, than
what could come from using the same tired methods.

-jeremy

Lee Wells wrote:

>Rob:
> I agree.
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>On 7/10/04 11:10 AM, "Rob Myers" <robmyers@mac.com> wrote:
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>>On 10 Jul 2004, at 15:41, Lee Wells wrote:
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>>>Art is not about blogging.
>>>Blogging is about art.
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>>There's always "Whistler's Blogger"...
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>>More seriously there's Belle du Jour (etc.), blogs as literature
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>>I *don't* think Rhizome Raw would be better as a blog. I like the
>>peculiar mix of press releases, ASCII art and chit-chat that is this
>>list. I like the volume of traffic. And I like the semi-private nature
>>of the list. Rhizome Raw would be a late and redundant entry to the
>>blogging arena. As a mailing list it's something very special.
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>>- Rob.
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Blog vs Board (re: Blogging Survey)


LIZA did a fine job today of sewing together a series of posts on this
subject. I felt like i was reading a blog. I enjoyed reading them, but i
became turned off to the whole thing after a while.
She made me take a look at RSS. I dont really understand what it is
yet,. but she got my curiosity peaked.
I do know that i like recieving Rhisome via email for the very fact that
i feel like i am in a neutral environment. (this is just an illusion in
my head)

however, i could easily see my self taking part in a rhizome blog if the
discussion were ALIVE.

I am looking forward to helping out in any way possible. I would like to
get something going.

Jason Van Anden wrote:

>This discussion, by it's very existence, actually does a good job of illustrating why I brought this topic up.
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>How would this discussion be realized on a blog?
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>How would you know about it?
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>Who would be motivated to contribute to it?
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>The thoughtful contributions from the membership have motivated me to contiue to participate in this ongoing discussion. I feel like I have spent my time well.
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