Jason Van Anden
Since 2004
Works in Brooklyn, New York United States of America

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Jason Van Anden is a new media activist, artist, inventor and robot maker. His creations are exhibited internationally, receiving recognition in the art, science, technology and gaming communities. More about Jason and his work can be found at his website www.smileproject.com.
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DISCUSSION

iPhone therefore ... nevermind


Dear Mr. Jobs,

Its the developers stupid!

In a recent interview with the NYT (links follow) you mentioned that
no third party development for the iPhone would be allowed ... your
reasoning being that you don't want the developers to screw up
Cingular's phone network (I am paraphrasing but this is the jist).
This is pretty lame. Let's be honest, this is not a QC issue, you
want to control the software revenue (video, ring tones, music,
games, applications, etc...)

Of course you are entitled but the way this is bound to play out is
some other cool device with a different OS sporting the same features
will spring up - except it will be open to third party development
and someone from outside Apple's brain trust will create a killer app
for it instead and so on. Kind of like what happened in the early
90's - remember?

This is as absurd as only selling music on iTunes created by Apple
employees.

Please think different!
Jason Van Anden
Software Developer and Visual Artist
www.smileproject.com

Great opening discussion on Slashdot:
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid/01/12/0430200&from=rss

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/11/technology/11cnd-apple.html?
_r=1&oref=slogin

On Jan 11, 2007, at 1:46 PM, T.Whid wrote:

> More on this:
> <http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/10/apple-vps-confirm-no-3rd-party-
> iphone-apps/>
>
> On 1/10/07, Rob Myers <rob@robmyers.org> wrote: Jason Van Anden wrote:
> > Any word out there on 3rd party development for the iPhone ... yet?
>
> People have only been out of NDA 24 hours. Give them time. ;-)
>
> > I suppose if the browser supports javascript there are some
> possibilities - but specifically I am interested in Flash or Java
> development.
>
> I think that the desktop widgets system introduced with 10.4 were
> targeted at precisely this kind of device. So that's JavaScript +
> their
> canvas class.
>
> - Rob.
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DISCUSSION

iPhone therefore iAm?


Any word out there on 3rd party development for the iPhone ... yet?

I suppose if the browser supports javascript there are some possibilities - but specifically I am interested in Flash or Java development.

Jason Van Anden
www.smileproject.com

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Re: New on post.thing.net


... in the context of Rhizome at any rate.

i++

On 11/29/06, Jason Van Anden <jason@smileproject.com> wrote:
>
> list is to social capital as blog is to social capitalist
>
> i++
>
>
>
> On 11/29/06, Don Relyea < don@donrelyea.com > wrote:
> >
> > First off post.thing.net looks cool and I have book marked it for
> > further reading.
> >
> > annie abrahams wrote:
> > > I am against blogs
> > > I am for lists
> > I am for both. In the context of encouraging discussion, Annie is right
> > though, lists still win over blogs hands down. To me blogs and lists serve
> > two different purposes. In my mind, blogs are for publishing thoughts and
> > various stuff like music, new projects and so on. My blog is sort of my
> > personal podium. Comments make blogs a little more interactive but its a
> > pain to keep up with the spammers. Lists seem more ripe for discussion. I
> > think it is that way entirely because you have to make a conscious decision
> > to go to a blog to experience it, with email lists the discussion lands in
> > your email box.
> >
> > Just a thought... it would probably not be too tough to make RAW
> > discussions both. A moderator/super user could flag certain threads as
> > "discussion" and a script could plop them into a blog format. Comments could
> > then be sent back to RAW. Then we would get the www search and syndicated
> > benefits of blogs with the email delivery of lists. I guess it is already
> > sort of this way with the searchable text objects and RAW post form. Hmmm.
> >
> > Jim Andrews wrote:
> > > what are the urls of blogs you visit fairly often?
> >
> > Chris Ashley's Blog
> > http://chrisashley.net/weblog/
> >
> > Tom Moody's Blog
> > http://www.digitalmediatree.com/tommoody/
> >
> > Thinking About Art
> > http://thinkingaboutart.blogs.com/art/
> >
> > Turbulence.org Blog
> > http://turbulence.org/blog/
> >
> > Wooster Collective (street art)
> > http://www.woostercollective.com/
> >
> > Generator Blog (fun generators)
> > http://generatorblog.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Patently Silly (bizarre patents, very funny)
> > http://www.patentlysilly.com/
> >
> > and of course my personal blog about art, my projects, my music and my
> > kids.....
> > http://www.donrelyea.com/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi
> >
> > Regards,
> > Don Relyea
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jason Van Anden
> http://www.smileproject.com
>

--
Jason Van Anden
http://www.smileproject.com

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Re: New on post.thing.net


list is to social capital as blog is to social capitalist

i++

On 11/29/06, Don Relyea <don@donrelyea.com > wrote:
>
> First off post.thing.net looks cool and I have book marked it for further
> reading.
>
> annie abrahams wrote:
> > I am against blogs
> > I am for lists
> I am for both. In the context of encouraging discussion, Annie is right
> though, lists still win over blogs hands down. To me blogs and lists serve
> two different purposes. In my mind, blogs are for publishing thoughts and
> various stuff like music, new projects and so on. My blog is sort of my
> personal podium. Comments make blogs a little more interactive but its a
> pain to keep up with the spammers. Lists seem more ripe for discussion. I
> think it is that way entirely because you have to make a conscious decision
> to go to a blog to experience it, with email lists the discussion lands in
> your email box.
>
> Just a thought... it would probably not be too tough to make RAW
> discussions both. A moderator/super user could flag certain threads as
> "discussion" and a script could plop them into a blog format. Comments could
> then be sent back to RAW. Then we would get the www search and syndicated
> benefits of blogs with the email delivery of lists. I guess it is already
> sort of this way with the searchable text objects and RAW post form. Hmmm.
>
> Jim Andrews wrote:
> > what are the urls of blogs you visit fairly often?
>
> Chris Ashley's Blog
> http://chrisashley.net/weblog/
>
> Tom Moody's Blog
> http://www.digitalmediatree.com/tommoody/
>
> Thinking About Art
> http://thinkingaboutart.blogs.com/art/
>
> Turbulence.org Blog
> http://turbulence.org/blog/
>
> Wooster Collective (street art)
> http://www.woostercollective.com/
>
> Generator Blog (fun generators)
> http://generatorblog.blogspot.com/
>
> Patently Silly (bizarre patents, very funny)
> http://www.patentlysilly.com/
>
> and of course my personal blog about art, my projects, my music and my
> kids.....
> http://www.donrelyea.com/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi
>
> Regards,
> Don Relyea
>

--
Jason Van Anden
http://www.smileproject.com

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Re: New on post.thing.net


I like the fact that Annie Abrahams was taking a stand - making a deliberate
choice to invest the time she has for written communication in an informal
collective list (like here) rather than be turned into an(other) amateur
columnist in the blogsphere. Her reasoning made me even more happy. HG's
intentions are pure to be sure - but blogs cause a brain drain on
communities such as Rhizome. I read blogs too - but I prefer the Rhizome
list. I rarely wander over to the mtaa site - but I read posts here many
times a day.

M. River, I wish you felt the same way so I would see more of you.

Best,
Jason Van Anden
www.smileproject.com

On 11/29/06, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> annie abrahams wrote:
>
> > I am against blogs
> >
> > I am for lists
> >
> > I won't participate, no blog for me.
> > unless a participative blog as the noblog of jim punk (cannot find a
> > link, has it disappeared?
> >
> > I hope other women also will leave the blogs to men and will try to
> > invest lists again
>
> "Misunderstanding is fundamental of human beings. We cannot read anothers
> brain. We are like submarines progressing by the information of our own
> internal monitors but unable to see what is really going on. In every
> tentative to understand another human being, we have to let in unknown
> information, that has the potential to destabilize us. That's dangerous, and
> so most human beings prefer a misunderstanding attitude over an
> understanding one." Annie Abrahams 1997 2005
>
> I like blogs
> I like lists
> I like email
> I like vlogs
> I like phologs
> I kind of like myspace...kind of...
> I like code
> I like web 2.0
> I like flickr...kind of
> I like del.icio.us
> I like the net
> I like rhizome
> I like the thing
> I like art
>
> and so on...
>
>
>
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http://www.smileproject.com