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The Harry Potter of the Digital Avant Garde." - Pieter van Bogaert, of the Belgian Newspaper "TIJD", 09/03/02.

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Re: If Bill gates wrote this, he IS a genius ...


Liza Sabater-Napier wrote:

>>
>> Rule 1: Life is not fair - get used to it
>

Rule 1: Life is not fair- do everything in your power to change this,
even if you spend
years and your accomplishments are miniscule.

>>
>> Rule 2: The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will
>> expect
>> you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.
>

Rule 2: The world won't care about your self-esteem. Your
accomplishments are
beautiful enough in private. There is no need to convince anyone else.

>> Rule 3: You will NOT make $40,000 a year right out of high school.
>> You won't
>> be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.
>

Rule 3: You will NOT make $40,000 a year right out of high school. You
won't be a
vice president with a car phone until you earn both. Alternatively, you
could accept
mere contentment and a sense of well-being, a feeling of continuous
living without
any disconnection. Or yeah, "a car phone."

>> Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.
>

Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, drop out of high school and
hitch hike
cross country, sleep in hostels or park benches and learn. Never have a
boss.

>> Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your
>> grandparents had
>> different word for burger flipping -- they called it opportunity.
>

Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your grandparents
had a different
word for burger flipping- they called it opportunity, and they spent
thier entire lives as
burger flippers in the mistaken and delirious hope of some day getting
promoted to
manager.

>> Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine
>> about
>> your mistakes, learn from them.
>

Rule 6: If your parents messed up, it's not your fault, so don't whine
about thier
mistakes, learn from them.

>> Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are
>> now.
>>
>> They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and
>> listening to you talk about how cool you are. So before you save the
>> rain
>> forest from the parasites of your parents' generation, try delousing the
>> closet in your own room.
>

Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are
now.

They got that way from paying bills, getting used to life being unfair,
and being
expected to produce something before they could feel content with life.
So before
you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parents' generation,
try delousing
the closet in your own room, and then ask yourself: Which do you prefer,
a clean
room, or a better world?

>> Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but
>> life has
>> not. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll
>> give
>> you as many times as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't
>> bear the
>> resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.
>

Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life
has invented
an imaginary hierarchy of success which allows it to dictate winners and
losers. In some
schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as many
times as you want
to get the right answer. This is exactly how you are expected to find
happiness.

>> Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off
>> and
>> very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. Do
>> that on
>> your own time.
>

Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off
and very few
employers are interested in helping you find yourself. Don't work for
any of them.

>> Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually
>> have to
>> leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.
>

Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. If you think it is, maybe you are
better off
listening to "Bill Gates" give you "advice" over the internet.

>> Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
>

Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are they are a low rank wage slave
working
code for a company that doesn't appreciate the sacrifices they made to
please
thier overbearing parents.

DISCUSSION

Re: If Bill gates wrote this, he IS a genius ...


Liza, I really really hope you are joking?

-e.

Liza Sabater-Napier wrote:

> Sometimes these things are apocryphal but this list of rules is so good
> everyone should keep it around ...
>
>
>> Bill Gates' Speech to MT. Whitney High School in Visalia California.
>> Worthwhile reading for anyone. Love him or hate him, he sure hits
>> the nail
>> on the head with this!
>>
>> To anyone with kids of any age, or anyone who has ever been a kid,
>> here's
>> some advice Bill Gates recently dished out at a high school speech
>> about 11
>> thing they did not and will not learn in school. He talks about how
>> feel-good,politically correct teachings created a generation of kids
>> with no
>> concept of reality and how this concept set them up for failure in
>> the real
>> world.
>>
>> Rule 1: Life is not fair - get used to it
>>
>> Rule 2: The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will
>> expect
>> you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.
>>
>> Rule 3: You will NOT make $40,000 a year right out of high school.
>> You won't
>> be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.
>>
>> Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.
>>
>> Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your
>> grandparents had
>> different word for burger flipping -- they called it opportunity.
>>
>> Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine
>> about
>> your mistakes, learn from them.
>>
>> Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are
>> now.
>>
>> They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and
>> listening to you talk about how cool you are. So before you save the
>> rain
>> forest from the parasites of your parents' generation, try delousing the
>> closet in your own room.
>>
>> Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but
>> life has
>> not. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll
>> give
>> you as many times as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't
>> bear the
>> resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.
>>
>> Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off
>> and
>> very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. Do
>> that on
>> your own time.
>>
>> Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually
>> have to
>> leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.
>>
>> Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
>>
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DISCUSSION

Re: duplicate posts?


I've had double posts for months, plus delayed emails- sometimes up to
three months old,
arriving en masse to my inbox. I always thought it was Alex Galloway's
subtle way of
reminding me of what an ass I am sometimes, since inevitably the posts
are sent from when
I am in the middle of bitching about something or other, but then it
occurred to me that
I am simply always bitching about something or other. [Is "bitching" -
the word- offensive?
If so, is "Kvetching" a workable substitute, meaning-wise?]

Cheers,
-e.

Judson wrote:

>> have other people been receiving duplicate email from RAW?
>
>
> a few repeats, not all, but wasn't alex doing something with the server?
>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re: RHIZOME_RARE arti-smoking:3,000,001 web page


the history of tobacco, in america esp., is simply not as black &
white as
the anti-smoking moralists would like us to believe."

So, smoking won't kill me, because it has had a varied and rich impact
on American Culture? Let's look at it this way; tobacco companies have
aimed at hollywood stars and films, trying to get them to smoke- any
brand, just to smoke, period- because it increases the chic factor of
smoking. Artists who smoke accomplish the same thing. They are making
tobacco out to be "hip" and so inadvertently sell the image that art =
smoking in black turtlenecks. The idea that people would be upset about
an artist challenging this stereotype- a stereotype that helps to sell
cigarettes
and the faux "rebellion" that cigarettes represent- is just as weird as
people
complaining about a show for young artists being "exclusive." [Wasn't
"net.ephemera" limited only to New York based artists? I didn't see GH
declare "I guess there's no-one outside of NYC that could possibly have
any good ideas."]

Smoking is a major health issue. Why would anyone have a problem with
this fact being represented, when all the rest of the information about
tobacco
comes from the tobacco companies? I guess if you are really pro corporate
then you could have a right to disagree, but encouraging people not to
become
addicts to one more spoke in the capitalist bullshit machine is
certainly not
reprehensible?

As for Moralism- I'm not sure if avoiding tobacco is presented all too
often
as "the high road" or some path to God; from the works I've seen it's
pretty
much been a straightforward message: Smoking is a suicidal act; increases
your risk for cancer, turns your teeth yellow, gives you bad breath, makes
you smell bad, etc. Best case scenario is lung problems in your old age.
It's
unhealthy, and the effects of not being healthy far outweigh the effects of
"looking cool". Smoke if you want, but don't complain that someone is
making
a statement that barely even balances the major impact that tobacco has
had,
up to very, very recently, on our culture. It's got less to do with
"morals" -
morals being an idea of "right and wrong"- and more to do with "ethics" and
whether health is more important than image.

I don't see how encouraging people to be healthy is suddenly fascist; nor do
I see why artists with a point of view- "imposing strange rules on
others of
how the world should be" - is any different or more dangerous than a mass
media marketing campaign that convinces kids to smoke? Anything that is
seen as "rebellion" that is actually a way of killing yourself or making
complacency
easier deserves a strong reaction from artists. Unfortunately, they're
usually
mired in these attitudes and would not for a second be honest enough to
question the very faux-rebellion they have fallen for themselves.

-e.

t.whid wrote:

>> i really don't understand which human approach you can rely on to
>> dare to
>> express calls like >>>>>>>>>> "Arti- Smoking", art for a smoke-free
>> world
>> project. <<<<<<<<<<<<
>> i really ask myself whether such plain moralistic attitude is the right
>> basis to give to children or which is worse - to die from lung cancer
>> through smoking or to spend a whole life in such a moralistic
>> attitude, thus
>>
>>imposing strange rules on others how the world should be
>>
>> - actually we are
>> talking about highly sensitive and at the same time political issues,
>> and me
>> personally, i cannot see how i could ever go along with such
>> attitudes being
>> proposed by the arti-smoking project. i am sorry.
>>
>> http://www.kanonmedia.com/portfolio/sp01.htm
>
>
>
> i agree with kanonmedia. (full disclosure: i'm a smoker.)
>
> the history of tobacco, in america esp., is simply not as black &
> white as the anti-smoking moralists would like us to believe.
>
> it's probably quite easy to get public funding for art pushing an
> anti-smoking agenda.
>
> one won't get it for this sort of art:
> http://www.mteww.com/number100/00to02mtaa
>
>

DISCUSSION

Re: The Humiliation of the Word


Well, there's the big idea of images being a predominantly second hand
experience-
Television, newspaper photos, etc- which removes the possibility of
emotional
connection. Watching tape of events that have already occurred are less
immediate
and therefore less emotionally relevant. But this is true of any second
hand experience-
language, "the word" which is called as a substitute- is also a system
of reports, more
landscape painting than actual landscape. The idea that "real life is in
the streets" should
be read as "life is first hand experience."

The word and the image are both used to evoke, convey, or portray
emotion, and
art, it would seem, would best be utilized as a method of turning image
into experience,
and writing, should be writing to create experience. The reporting of
experience is not
altogether a terrible thing, I don't think. It's just the way stuff is.

-e.

Jess Loseby wrote:

>is it because i'm getting older that I can't read proposals like this without
>the word 'bollocks!' slipping out? I can't be bothered to argue at nine
>o'clock in the morning other to say that that the author has obviously be
>locked in a cage where no artwork, film or photographs have been
>allowed .Someone who sincerely believe that images can't 'probe the
>depths of human experience' is just disabled in some vital and
>fundamental way....
>J.
>
>
>>thought some on this list may find this of interest ...
>>
>>The Humiliation of the Word
>>In this book Ellul argues that "Images" are limited to the realm of the material and the practical and cannot probe the depths of human experience, to go beyond the surface of reality. Therefore a society based on image will be a shallow society, incapable of finding deep truths. A society
>>
>based upon "Word" however, has been debased inour culture, but is able to cnvey truth like images can't. It is open to interpetation and is flexible.
>
>>
>>
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