I disagree that the nationstate is meaningless outside of the context of online gaming. This collapse of geography is real but occurs simultaneously with actual geography, the idea that one or the other is more relevant isn't true; your internet
login terminal's geography still has an enormous amount of influence on history. Only highly developed western cultures can afford to believe in the collapse of geography, the reality is that global politics will exist on an invisible scale simply
because they can finally manage to function unobserved.

Didn't McLuhan say that our text based media allows us a greater disconnection from the synthesis of all of our senses? A textual medium that pretends to be oral culture is even more disorienting!

-er.

Eric Dymond <dymond@idirect.ca> on Saturday, March 18, 2006 at 11:25 PM -0500 wrote:
>Virilio says, and I paraphrase, "Fukuyama was wrong, history didn't die, Geography collapsed" its all about the speed of communication.
>As well, Virilio points out that The crisis (Accident) in visual art is not an issue in the performing arts. The performing arts are always in time, the visual arts have to elicit the concept of time.
>Beautifully expanding McLuhans prophecies.
>
>Where is my geography when I post to Rhizome? Where is my geography if I play Everquest online with users from India, Germany, Brazil and Canada?
>The history of our interaction is still time based, but the Nation State has no part. How can we write a history of the nation state when noone is interested in that context?
>The failure of history is bound to old conventions (nation state and common geographic interest). With that eliminated, The new geography, the geography of rhizomatic interests takes main stage. Virilio is dead on the mark, and he's as scared as
>the rest of us. Write new histories.
>Have a good weekend!
>Eric
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RSS feed and a built in delicious are forthcoming. Also, I will try occasionally (from now on), to break out of academese.

Thanks, everyone, for caring :)

-er.

Lauren Cornell <laurencornell@rhizome.org> on Monday, January 30, 2006 at 1:26 PM -0500 wrote:
>Good news! Do you have an RSS feed?
>

I'm not sure:

http://www.weedshare.com/

-e.

Intellectual Property isn't a silly idea, it's just too heavy for a spider
web to support for very long.

When we are working in a networked environment- and we all are- the
distribution of intellectual property becomes unwieldy. It would be foolish
at this point to pretend it will exist in 10 to 20 years. We will be
cultural producers working on cultural products, by for and with. You will
not be recognized for the production of an artwork- you will be recognized
for your contribution to the culture of the artwork you're contributing to.
In a far more direct way, the community you work in is going to become very
important.

Whether it is good or bad (it's both) has nothing to do with it: your
property is being seized and redistributed.

-e.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pall Thayer" <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>
To: "Plasma Studii" <office@plasmastudii.org>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>; <joy.garnett@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: both ways? nike+batman

>
>
> On 19.8.2005, at 11:22, Plasma Studii wrote:
>
>> "intellectual property" is just silly. no matter who claims it.
>>
>
> That sounds like a really silly statement. Tell us what's silly about
> intellectual property?
>
> pall
>
>> dumb dc comics ...
>>
>>> http://newsgrist.typepad.com/underbelly/2005/08/artnet_news_aug.html
>>>
>>
>> ... = dumb rock star
>>
>>> http://www.emergentbehaviour.org/?p7
>>>
>>
>> how come it's pretty easy to discard the belief santa clause exists, and
>> yet people still get
>> huffy about copyright? what would change their minds? there are
>> alternatives (not that any
>> are needed), old enough proofs from varying schools/perspectives
>> (neurology, post-
>> modernism, ...)?
>>
>> i gave up comic books as a kid when a cute girl said they were childish.
>> maybe if enough
>> cute people spoke out against copyright, these bean counters would
>> change their ways.
>>
>>
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