David Goldschmidt
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Works in San Francisco, California United States of America

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DISCUSSION

media explorations


paper / words / literature
radio waves / sounds / music
internet / events / mediatrip

"An event is an occurrence of a media file on the timeline." Sony Vegas 4=

artists use "words" to explore and reveal the human experience. artists us=
e "sounds" to explore and reveal the human experience. unfortunately, arti=
sts are frequently discouraged from using the "events" of our media culture=
because of copyright restrictions. it is nearly impossible for media comp=
anies to stop artists from using "words" or "sounds" but they have a very t=
ight grip on the "events" of popculture.

how can we claim to live in a free and open society if we are prevented fro=
m using the "events" of our culture to express ourselves?

i think there should be some kind of compromise.

i would like greater freedom to use the "events" of our culture without hav=
ing to pay for a commercial license to distribute what i create. i would l=
ike media companies to sell a Non-Commercial Distribution License that perm=
its the use and distribution of their content in new and creative ways (e.g=
. school projects, netart expression, etc). i am willing to pay an extra f=
ee for these extra rights but not the thousands of dollars they demand for =
their commercial licenses.

david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv

DISCUSSION

Re: Question 1--DEATH


where's DEATH went you actually want him/her/them?

david goldschmidt

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Question 1

>
> (Broke my original post into 3 for the
> taggers <img src="images/icons/icon7.gif" alt=":-)" border=0
align='absmiddle'> )
>
> &gt;When communities open themselves up to
> &gt;sharing their resources with the world at
> &gt;large, they also open themselves up to
> &gt;exploitation by special interests.
>
> I think it's important to recognize and
> "think through" the false boundaries that
> basically serve the interests of those
> "special interests." As Chomsky says,
> special interests in the government's view
> means the population at large. They divide
> up the people into women, workers, asians,
> first nations, etc, then call them "special
> interests" when they try to reverse that
> categorization by demanding to be "people."
>
> The same should be said for these closed
> communities, when they "open up." It is in
> their ultimate interests to universalize
> their community, not hide behind strict
> boundaries. Remember that, because of
> overlapping communities, you are as likely to
> convert your "interlopers" to your way of
> thinking as the members of your community are
> likely to spontaneously have changes of mind
> to become "interlopers" themselves.
>
> When a corporate software developer "shares
> its resources with the world at large," i.e.
> by putting their product on the market - they
> are opening themselves up to exploitation by
> piraters and file-sharers. Ultimately,
> though, this benefits everyone (too slowly to
> save some people's careers, mortgages, shoes
> for their kids etc, of course). The
> employees, in a sort of forced collective of
> capitalist exploitation, will eventually be
> liberated by open-source and could return to
> the same social role in a more voluntary
> collective after the current global system
> cracks up! The workers in that "corporate
> family" may think they are in a community,
> with common interests, united against their
> competitors, and either serving or exploiting
> the public - but they are also members of
> many more important overlapping communities -
> their neighbourhoods, families, cities,
> ethnicities, friends, and other publics.
>
> On the other hand, when the First Nations of
> British Columbia decided it would be a good
> idea to trade a little of their fairly-
> useless gold with the white foreigners
> lurking on the edges of their communities,
> they unfortunately sent a lighting-bolt
> message all the way to California which
> resulted in a wave of armed, Indian-killing
> prospectors pillaging their homes for over a
> century. This is obviously not the desired
> outcome of resource-sharing, but having
> learned from this example and others, the
> first nations have now formed webs with
> socialists, anarchists, other nations and
> exploited peoples, etc, and it's pretty darn
> hard to go shooting Injuns these days. More
> sharing, not less, is the answer.
>
> The tribal peoples I visited in Pakistan,
> though, still have an exclusionary solution:
> tightening religious dogma and rifles aimed
> outward. Not much good against satellite
> guided missiles, I'm afraid; that type of
> solution plays into the hands of the
> interloper, ultimately, since in the early
> 21st century, the closed, proprietary systems
> have the decisive upper hand in brute force
> (including lawyers). Infiltration and
> networking, making your network extend even
> inside the "enemy's" network - these are the
> unstoppable tools of the community-minded.
> Remember that the fragging of their own
> officers by American soldiers played an
> important role in the failure of the US
> invasion of Vietnam.
>
> (See some video about my travels in Pakistan
> at:
>
> <A Href="http://www.120seconds.com/index.cfm?moviet4"
target="_blank">http://www.120seconds.com/index.cfm?moviet4</A>
> )
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DISCUSSION

the artistic freedom voucher


The AFV would allow each individual to contribute a refundable tax credit =
of approximately $100 to a creative worker of their choice, or to an interm=
ediary who passes funds along to creative workers. Recipients of the AFV (c=
reative workers and intermediaries) would be required to register with the =
government in the same way that religious or charitable organizations must =
now register for tax-exempt status. This registration is only for the purpo=
se of preventing fraud - it does not involve any evaluation of the quality =
of the work being produced.
In exchange for receiving AFV support, creative workers would be inelig=
ible for copyright protection for a significant period of time (e.g. five y=
ears). Copyrights and the AFV are alternative ways in which the government =
supports creative workers. Creative workers are entitled to be compensated =
once for their work, not twice. The AFV would not affect a creative workers=
ability to receive money for concerts or other live performances.

http://www.cepr.net/AFV.htm

david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv
www.mediatrips.com

DISCUSSION

Re: Re[5]: RHIZOME_RAW: finding net.art in the rhizome artbase


Hi Roman-

The TOP FIVE idea was never meant to be a fluid index of the entire Artbase.
My original thought was that the RAW and RARE community would review all of
the werks entered into the artbase during its first three month and submit
their favorites from that time period. After the TOP FIVE from that period
were chosen we would do it again from month four to month six, month seven
to month nine ... and so on.

My thought was that it would be nice to revisit all the old werks and pick
out our favorites. These would serve as examples (from their "era") and
give a little direction to new rhizomers.

Best,

dg

----- Original Message -----
From: "trashconnection" <www@trashconnection.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:33 PM
Subject: Re[5]: RHIZOME_RAW: finding net.art in the rhizome artbase

> Hello again!
>
> There is no indicator like stock market or sales ratio for updating
> the top 5 list in the entire database.
> It would rather make sence to vote netartnews. Thus every certain
> period of time, to be precise once a month a top 5 list could be created.
>
> ---
> Roman Minaev
> trashconnection.com
>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Re[2]: RHIZOME_RAW: finding net.art in the rhizome artbase


Hey all-

The TOP FIVE idea is not for the the net.artists. Although, those chosen
would benefit from the increased exposure. Its for the newbies and net.art
enthusiasts. Its a way of using peer review to help a more mainstream
audience begin to appreciate net.art.

Publishing thousands of net.art werks alphabetically is not the best way to
introduce someone to net.art. Very few people take the time to go through
it all to see if they like net.art. Chances are, they will click on one or
two pieces and if they don't like what they see then they are gone.

The TOP FIVE idea is a way to introduce people to net.art. If they like
what they see then they will dig much deeper into the Artbase. I want more
people to see what the net.art community is creating ... and using an old
marketing trick to expose people to quality art is nothing to be ashamed of.
It is a practical response to an obvious problem.

I've read through some of the other ideas and thry're great. Much more
creative than mine. But then again, sometimes simple is best. KISS! KISS!

david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv
www.mediatrips.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Simons" <patricksimons@gloriousninth.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re[2]: RHIZOME_RAW: finding net.art in the rhizome artbase

> Im with Eric
> this is not in the spirit of the artbase at all.
> How about a vote on the worst five attempts to represent lottery funding,
we could all vote on it ..and then vote on the best five responses to the
idea ..and then we could al do some work
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Eryk Salvaggio wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I never agreed to enter my work into a competition when I allowed my
> > work to
> > be shown on Rhizome's servers (for no compensation.) Nor am I
> > comfortable
> > with the idea of any artists work "competing" in a populist pony show
> > without thier permission.
> >
> > -e.
> >
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