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Re: Karei & Neosim


On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Wally Keeler wrote:

Backhanded wishful derogatory commentaries.

Neither you, nor Marc Garrett have the capacity of "imagination".

Simply shuffling about programmatic knee-jerks of self-importance
/self-pity in "novel" ways.

Nor do either of you have any interest in imagination. creativity. art.

Actual contact with the above precludes desire to murder
once and for all.

DISCUSSION

Re: say no to BABYCHEEKS


On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, marc.garrett wrote:

> 'Karei' is now relegated back into the 'Block Sender' now

Again? You're going to ignore us because we won't play
along with your attempted infantilistic mirrorism
attempt at self-centered narcissism attempted to be
passed on as love?

By the way, we do "suggest" that you avoid making slanderous
and libelous statements such as us being a "sect" without
any such information.

And appeal to the masses in a very "charming charismatic leader"
"graceful" and "soulful" manner? maybe you coould even tell
them how eros (sexuality) is "soulful love" (philia) proceeding
to peddle your delusions on matters of which you have no understanding?
Nevermind that you're not even capable of EROS but rather a subject
to reproductive mechanisms and culturally / genetically programmed
"desires' which you confuse and confuse with sexuality, least of
all "heart(pathos)". Nothing wrong with eros, by the way, but it's
simply not "philia".

Nor are your delusions "imagination".
As a matter of fact you have no contact either with your sexuality
or imagination (one needs to be in balance to access those, and
function a bit above infantile obsessions with faux-emotional
posturing and pseudo-thinking.

We sympathize : walking a path of one's own where there is
no "approval" or "disapproval" from another + one is self-responsible
for one's actions (and totally alone in such) is difficult.

And it is forgivable that you are ignorant.
What is not forgivable is wilfull refusal to look at yourself,
and repeated attempts to damage others instead of dealing
with yourself.

There is no such thing as "soulful sex," because the soul does not
have any sex organs. Nor are the reproductive functions
and physical expressions of the body "soulful". Sex is just
sex. And when it's done properly, there is nothing wrong with it.
Certainly it CAN BE a facet of "soulful love" and do avoid attempting
to project some aversion on our behalf towards the body,
because we can discern between the actual functions of the "soul"
and sexuality. Pardon us, if we don't tell any humans we have
sex with that we are their "soul/other" or Jesus, and if we enjoy
sex for what it is.

Apropos the above the "confusion" of such matter is indeed and in fact a
cause of lots of suffering world-wide. Yet the source of suffering is
the delusion_ and it doesn't matter if it comes from "religion" (
as physically implemented by humans), "philosophy", "science", or from
"marc garrett".

And no, we do not care about your middle-class programmatic knee-jerks
on the matter, marc garrett.

Sexuality is important. Idiotism about it isn't.
Sentimentality and infantile emotional-knee jerks about it are not
either. Nor does it havea nything to do with "creativity" and "art"

> - lost all the respect that

You are not capable of respect. Imagination. Creativity.
"Soul". These are not manifestations which exist in order
to be used to condescend towards others. They are not knee-jerks
of your ego. Nor are you capable of understanding them.

> 'they' potentially had,

No, you attempted flatulating mirrorism as a passive-aggressive
"fe-attack" after all the rest of it failed.
Natirralich, you're going to run away again, as if anyone
was writing to you, or even interested in communicating
to you. again, you're attempting to knee-jerk a "dependency"
"need" which isn't here. If you want to go away, go away.

What is ugly in the human race is this idiotic drive to
knee-jerk others as if they need to step away from their
essence-individuality in order to "pursue" and "beg"
and self-debase themselves at the doors of some ignorant
narcissistic delusional princessa or ELSE they will be
harrassed by said princessa.

Come back when you are capable of LOVE marc.

> they are not as interesting as Neoists,

Meaningless drivel. We are not "comparable" to Neoists.
Nor do you understand Neoism. Nor are you capable of perceiving
or judging us (or anyone).

All you are interested in is your ego, and you have no
interest in anything else, and you would "subserviate"
anything and everything to it, if you had it your way.
And this is not inaccurate nor anything to do with
some wishfil "obsession" on our behalf. We write this
because it is applicable to you.

> lack any grace in their communication,

No dearest. We are not the wishful projections inside your brain.
Nor do you have any understanding of grace or communication.
Nor are you capable of communication. What you are whining about
is that you will not be treated as what you are not, and that we will
not be muppets to your ego. Our most sincere apologies for the
doscomfort, princessa.

> lack any depth -

You have no capability to perceive depth, no matter how much you pose
as if you do. You are ignorant, blind, deaf, and illiterate.

> therefore I find them uninteresting.

The princessa "I" has declared.

> I advise everyone to do the same

Certainly. The bloated dictatorial ape 'advises" all to act as one
and do as it does. After all, it needs re-affirmation "luv" and
"mirroring" because if there is none such, it won't stand on its
own two feet for two seconds flat.

> in regard to their failing to come up with anything imaginative

We are not 'failing" anything dearest princessa.
Keep your delusional wishful projections to yourself.

> other than their limited persona.

You are talking about yourself, dearest. We have no "limited personas".
There is no such thing as UNLIMITED PERSONAS. Nor do we have any
personas ;) Nor are you capable of perceiving any personas.

> They are 'literally' A Yawn...

No dearest. We are not your wishful projections.
No matter how much you froth at the mouth.
Boredom + ennui are characteristic of those disconnected
from reality + blind.

> bye for now - marc

Ciao, princessa. careful that the door does not slam
your ass on the way out.

> We Can Make Our Own World.

Scribbled the dictatorial ape before it learned to percieve,
exist, appreciate, and be of serrvice to the one created in absolute
perfection.

Its poor bleeding "soul".

DISCUSSION

Re: Karei & Neosim


On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, marc.garrett wrote:

> We agree on something on this list - they've become like little fleas,

No babycheeks. We have not.
Do us a favor and have a courage to speak to us,
instead of hiding behind a filter so you can mouth off
and makes yourself feel better (out of reach of danger:)

You + wally : ignorant and cowardly blind chiens.

> one just has to spray them and they will curl over and die.

Yes, that's EXACTLY what is going on. Precisely
why you're running away. Please do gloat about your
MURDER MURDER BLOOD BLOOD impulse oh soulful princessa.

By the way, since you can "deal" with the likes of "us"
we do expect you to get an audience with your Queen
within the next week--or any "important" figura for
that matter--ah but you can't.

All you can do is froth at the mouth from the sidewalk.
Please do account that you are speaking to us because we
choose to avail ourselves.

> Cuz they offer no real communication

You are not capable of communication.
And correct: we have no interest in you.

> other than hatred

There is no hatred in our behavior dearest.
It does not matter how much you froth at the mouth.

> & no empathy;

You have no contact with empathy nor ability to discern it.
It's nice to throw around "big" concepts in order to justify
one's murderous idiocy isn't it.

> thus I have no issue of

I, I, I, I.
Hello, meet Princess Garrett.
The world revolves around its penis. Don't ask us why the princess
has one :)

> them disappearing into the void (hole) from whence they came.

You have no perception of 'whence we came" babycheeks.

> The world
> would not miss them, not a bad gauge or barometer to define how much they
> will be missed.

Tak. Conflation of ego with "world", childish attempts at
"condescension" + justification of murder.

What a shame that the Princessa lacks any nobility indeed.

> If rhizome are too caught up in the '1st amendment', and prefer us to either
> block or battle it on here, so be it.

sure. Now throw a fit at rhizome too, because it won't act YOUR way :)

> Then after the fight, we can all get
> on with our real imaginative communicative intentions,

As IF you have any :)

> not to be side-swiped
> by 'Karei's' imposing spewings all the time.

Yes, we are sure your mission is of UTMOST importance :)

> They have caused a lot of damage to this list,

No, dearest. We have not.

> which I am very resentful about;

Your resentfulness is your own murderous reaction :)

> I now chat to various rhizomers (offlist) via personal email instead (many of them women),

Bleat. Many of them women.
The standard use of women as commodity / whores to vanity.

> because they are so fed up with 'Karei's'

And you are the "voice" of your harem :))

> macho-negative crap themselves,

There is no 'macho-negativism" in our behavior, dearest :)

> it all feels quite rotten.

If you feel rotten, it is because you are :)

> Rhizome are obviously not too bothered about this, or too busy to deal with
> this problem

Knee-jerk rhizome. Do it. Do it.
We do wonder if you attempted to set up your parents this way too,
"mommy, daddy won't play my game".

> - so certain people just have to get on with questioning the
> flow and the way things are turning, even if it risks one's reputation.

Saving the world again :)

> 'self-conscious' reasoning sometimes have to be put aside to defy the lack
> or established complicity occuring.

The noble individual demanding that humans act as it wants them to :)

> I believe that I have managed to cut
> through the armour of 'Karei's' persona

You haven't cut through anything babycheeks.
Nor is there a persona.

> via the 'Karei & Neoism' post, sent
> in an earlier thread on this list. It is important also for Rhizome
> especially to come to terms that even though as far as they are concerned,
> this list is nothing compared to other aspects of its social respectability;
> that trying (or actually being seen) to resolve issues like this might
> actually help them (publicly) for the better.

Yes, wea re SURE that you do what you do for EVERYONE's BETTERMENT.

> I have consciously not paid any money because of Karei to Rhizome

Knee-jerk, knee-jerk. waving a dollar at (women) rhizome.
You're not capable of consciousness. Premeditated egotism? Yes.

> - for I
> get value from mostly discussing with many people on this list, as well as
> others; max Hermann and everyone else.

Certainly.

> But 'karei' has been the 1st thing
> that has made me question the validity of a raw-list;

We are ALL nice guys until something steps on our toes :)

> which is pretty much
> something coming from me. Yet perhaps because 'Karei' is like a
> parasite/leach,

We are not like a parasite nor a leach.
you on the other hand are. Not "like" one but one :)

> they will not pay anyway, so if I can be assured that real
> quality debate is happening on here - then I will be forced to leave and
> discuss via email instead with those who are no longer interested in being
> attacked in such a way.

Ursula and the 11,000 virgins jumped from a cliff rather than have sex
with their husbands because they were male. Was kill daddy popular in
the middle ages?

Alas, a last gesture of self-defiance : if you don't do as I say,
I will kill myself.

> Of course, this will fall on deaf ears,

The tragedy! <insert Wagner>

> cuz there
> things going behind the scenes at rhizome that

Yes. It's a conspiracy against noble princesses. And females.
Mostly it's a conspiracy against FEMALES.

> many of us are not aware of
> which will favour 'Karei' over the rest of us.

Yes that's exactly how non-onfantile babies act:
let's play favors.

> respect to all who give a damn...

Knee-jerk attempt. I will respect you if you act as I want you to.

> We Can Make Our Own World.

Sand castles of desire + egotism, behind whose doors
we hide.

Funny, but we never met any actual nobility who attempted to
degrade religion, soul, and ethics to little bitches
on a leash to their egos.

One may wish to observe another externalized "anthromorphism":
Marc Garret acts like a "noble princessa" who if it doesn't get its
way "off with their heads", is dictatorial, and excruciatingly lazy.
But of course those are all characteristic of that evil evil
"ruling class".

Apropos a facet of anthromorphism and "punching in the nose":

http://www.singinst.org/CFAI/anthro.html

A largely inaccurate article, yet with some interesting
observations to be extracted, about humans (and not AIs,
as they fail completely to not anthropomorhize :)

DISCUSSION

Re: say no to BABYCHEEKS


On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, marc.garrett wrote:

> Yawn....

Meaningless knee-jerk.
What we wrote is accurate + precise + about "you"
despite your catatonic "ennui" :)

> > > 'Karei' is now relegated back into the 'Block Sender' now
> >
> > Again? You're going to ignore us because we won't play
> > along with your attempted infantilistic mirrorism
> > attempt at self-centered narcissism attempted to be
> > passed on as love?
> >
> > By the way, we do "suggest" that you avoid making slanderous
> > and libelous statements such as us being a "sect" without
> > any such information.
> >
> > And appeal to the masses in a very "charming charismatic leader"
> > "graceful" and "soulful" manner? maybe you coould even tell
> > them how eros (sexuality) is "soulful love" (philia) proceeding
> > to peddle your delusions on matters of which you have no understanding?
> > Nevermind that you're not even capable of EROS but rather a subject
> > to reproductive mechanisms and culturally / genetically programmed
> > "desires' which you confuse and confuse with sexuality, least of
> > all "heart(pathos)". Nothing wrong with eros, by the way, but it's
> > simply not "philia".
> >
> > Nor are your delusions "imagination".
> > As a matter of fact you have no contact either with your sexuality
> > or imagination (one needs to be in balance to access those, and
> > function a bit above infantile obsessions with faux-emotional
> > posturing and pseudo-thinking.
> >
> > We sympathize : walking a path of one's own where there is
> > no "approval" or "disapproval" from another + one is self-responsible
> > for one's actions (and totally alone in such) is difficult.
> >
> > And it is forgivable that you are ignorant.
> > What is not forgivable is wilfull refusal to look at yourself,
> > and repeated attempts to damage others instead of dealing
> > with yourself.
> >
> > There is no such thing as "soulful sex," because the soul does not
> > have any sex organs. Nor are the reproductive functions
> > and physical expressions of the body "soulful". Sex is just
> > sex. And when it's done properly, there is nothing wrong with it.
> > Certainly it CAN BE a facet of "soulful love" and do avoid attempting
> > to project some aversion on our behalf towards the body,
> > because we can discern between the actual functions of the "soul"
> > and sexuality. Pardon us, if we don't tell any humans we have
> > sex with that we are their "soul/other" or Jesus, and if we enjoy
> > sex for what it is.
> >
> > Apropos the above the "confusion" of such matter is indeed and in fact a
> > cause of lots of suffering world-wide. Yet the source of suffering is
> > the delusion_ and it doesn't matter if it comes from "religion" (
> > as physically implemented by humans), "philosophy", "science", or from
> > "marc garrett".
> >
> > And no, we do not care about your middle-class programmatic knee-jerks
> > on the matter, marc garrett.
> >
> > Sexuality is important. Idiotism about it isn't.
> > Sentimentality and infantile emotional-knee jerks about it are not
> > either. Nor does it havea nything to do with "creativity" and "art"
> >
> > > - lost all the respect that
> >
> > You are not capable of respect. Imagination. Creativity.
> > "Soul". These are not manifestations which exist in order
> > to be used to condescend towards others. They are not knee-jerks
> > of your ego. Nor are you capable of understanding them.
> >
> > > 'they' potentially had,
> >
> > No, you attempted flatulating mirrorism as a passive-aggressive
> > "fe-attack" after all the rest of it failed.
> > Natirralich, you're going to run away again, as if anyone
> > was writing to you, or even interested in communicating
> > to you. again, you're attempting to knee-jerk a "dependency"
> > "need" which isn't here. If you want to go away, go away.
> >
> > What is ugly in the human race is this idiotic drive to
> > knee-jerk others as if they need to step away from their
> > essence-individuality in order to "pursue" and "beg"
> > and self-debase themselves at the doors of some ignorant
> > narcissistic delusional princessa or ELSE they will be
> > harrassed by said princessa.
> >
> > Come back when you are capable of LOVE marc.
> >
> > > they are not as interesting as Neoists,
> >
> > Meaningless drivel. We are not "comparable" to Neoists.
> > Nor do you understand Neoism. Nor are you capable of perceiving
> > or judging us (or anyone).
> >
> > All you are interested in is your ego, and you have no
> > interest in anything else, and you would "subserviate"
> > anything and everything to it, if you had it your way.
> > And this is not inaccurate nor anything to do with
> > some wishfil "obsession" on our behalf. We write this
> > because it is applicable to you.
> >
> > > lack any grace in their communication,
> >
> > No dearest. We are not the wishful projections inside your brain.
> > Nor do you have any understanding of grace or communication.
> > Nor are you capable of communication. What you are whining about
> > is that you will not be treated as what you are not, and that we will
> > not be muppets to your ego. Our most sincere apologies for the
> > doscomfort, princessa.
> >
> >
> > > lack any depth -
> >
> > You have no capability to perceive depth, no matter how much you pose
> > as if you do. You are ignorant, blind, deaf, and illiterate.
> >
> > > therefore I find them uninteresting.
> >
> > The princessa "I" has declared.
> >
> > > I advise everyone to do the same
> >
> > Certainly. The bloated dictatorial ape 'advises" all to act as one
> > and do as it does. After all, it needs re-affirmation "luv" and
> > "mirroring" because if there is none such, it won't stand on its
> > own two feet for two seconds flat.
> >
> >
> > > in regard to their failing to come up with anything imaginative
> >
> > We are not 'failing" anything dearest princessa.
> > Keep your delusional wishful projections to yourself.
> >
> > > other than their limited persona.
> >
> > You are talking about yourself, dearest. We have no "limited personas".
> > There is no such thing as UNLIMITED PERSONAS. Nor do we have any
> > personas ;) Nor are you capable of perceiving any personas.
> >
> >
> > > They are 'literally' A Yawn...
> >
> > No dearest. We are not your wishful projections.
> > No matter how much you froth at the mouth.
> > Boredom + ennui are characteristic of those disconnected
> > from reality + blind.
> >
> > > bye for now - marc
> >
> > Ciao, princessa. careful that the door does not slam
> > your ass on the way out.
> >
> > > We Can Make Our Own World.
> >
> > Scribbled the dictatorial ape before it learned to percieve,
> > exist, appreciate, and be of serrvice to the one created in absolute
> > perfection.
> >
> > Its poor bleeding "soul".
> >
> >
>
>
>

DISCUSSION

Re: say no to BABYCHEEKS


On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, marc.garrett wrote:

> Crap - again...extra large Yawn....

No dearest. It isn't crap AT ALL :)
No matter how much you "yawn" dictatorial brain obsessed princessa.

> >Nor are your delusions "imagination".
> As a matter of fact you have no contact either with your sexuality
> or imagination (one needs to be in balance to access those, and
> function a bit above infantile obsessions with faux-emotional
> posturing and pseudo-thinking.
>
>
> > On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, marc.garrett wrote:
> >
> > > 'Karei' is now relegated back into the 'Block Sender' now
> >
> > Again? You're going to ignore us because we won't play
> > along with your attempted infantilistic mirrorism
> > attempt at self-centered narcissism attempted to be
> > passed on as love?
> >
> > By the way, we do "suggest" that you avoid making slanderous
> > and libelous statements such as us being a "sect" without
> > any such information.
> >
> > And appeal to the masses in a very "charming charismatic leader"
> > "graceful" and "soulful" manner? maybe you coould even tell
> > them how eros (sexuality) is "soulful love" (philia) proceeding
> > to peddle your delusions on matters of which you have no understanding?
> > Nevermind that you're not even capable of EROS but rather a subject
> > to reproductive mechanisms and culturally / genetically programmed
> > "desires' which you confuse and confuse with sexuality, least of
> > all "heart(pathos)". Nothing wrong with eros, by the way, but it's
> > simply not "philia".
> >
> > Nor are your delusions "imagination".
> > As a matter of fact you have no contact either with your sexuality
> > or imagination (one needs to be in balance to access those, and
> > function a bit above infantile obsessions with faux-emotional
> > posturing and pseudo-thinking.
> >
> > We sympathize : walking a path of one's own where there is
> > no "approval" or "disapproval" from another + one is self-responsible
> > for one's actions (and totally alone in such) is difficult.
> >
> > And it is forgivable that you are ignorant.
> > What is not forgivable is wilfull refusal to look at yourself,
> > and repeated attempts to damage others instead of dealing
> > with yourself.
> >
> > There is no such thing as "soulful sex," because the soul does not
> > have any sex organs. Nor are the reproductive functions
> > and physical expressions of the body "soulful". Sex is just
> > sex. And when it's done properly, there is nothing wrong with it.
> > Certainly it CAN BE a facet of "soulful love" and do avoid attempting
> > to project some aversion on our behalf towards the body,
> > because we can discern between the actual functions of the "soul"
> > and sexuality. Pardon us, if we don't tell any humans we have
> > sex with that we are their "soul/other" or Jesus, and if we enjoy
> > sex for what it is.
> >
> > Apropos the above the "confusion" of such matter is indeed and in fact a
> > cause of lots of suffering world-wide. Yet the source of suffering is
> > the delusion_ and it doesn't matter if it comes from "religion" (
> > as physically implemented by humans), "philosophy", "science", or from
> > "marc garrett".
> >
> > And no, we do not care about your middle-class programmatic knee-jerks
> > on the matter, marc garrett.
> >
> > Sexuality is important. Idiotism about it isn't.
> > Sentimentality and infantile emotional-knee jerks about it are not
> > either. Nor does it havea nything to do with "creativity" and "art"
> >
> > > - lost all the respect that
> >
> > You are not capable of respect. Imagination. Creativity.
> > "Soul". These are not manifestations which exist in order
> > to be used to condescend towards others. They are not knee-jerks
> > of your ego. Nor are you capable of understanding them.
> >
> > > 'they' potentially had,
> >
> > No, you attempted flatulating mirrorism as a passive-aggressive
> > "fe-attack" after all the rest of it failed.
> > Natirralich, you're going to run away again, as if anyone
> > was writing to you, or even interested in communicating
> > to you. again, you're attempting to knee-jerk a "dependency"
> > "need" which isn't here. If you want to go away, go away.
> >
> > What is ugly in the human race is this idiotic drive to
> > knee-jerk others as if they need to step away from their
> > essence-individuality in order to "pursue" and "beg"
> > and self-debase themselves at the doors of some ignorant
> > narcissistic delusional princessa or ELSE they will be
> > harrassed by said princessa.
> >
> > Come back when you are capable of LOVE marc.
> >
> > > they are not as interesting as Neoists,
> >
> > Meaningless drivel. We are not "comparable" to Neoists.
> > Nor do you understand Neoism. Nor are you capable of perceiving
> > or judging us (or anyone).
> >
> > All you are interested in is your ego, and you have no
> > interest in anything else, and you would "subserviate"
> > anything and everything to it, if you had it your way.
> > And this is not inaccurate nor anything to do with
> > some wishfil "obsession" on our behalf. We write this
> > because it is applicable to you.
> >
> > > lack any grace in their communication,
> >
> > No dearest. We are not the wishful projections inside your brain.
> > Nor do you have any understanding of grace or communication.
> > Nor are you capable of communication. What you are whining about
> > is that you will not be treated as what you are not, and that we will
> > not be muppets to your ego. Our most sincere apologies for the
> > doscomfort, princessa.
> >
> >
> > > lack any depth -
> >
> > You have no capability to perceive depth, no matter how much you pose
> > as if you do. You are ignorant, blind, deaf, and illiterate.
> >
> > > therefore I find them uninteresting.
> >
> > The princessa "I" has declared.
> >
> > > I advise everyone to do the same
> >
> > Certainly. The bloated dictatorial ape 'advises" all to act as one
> > and do as it does. After all, it needs re-affirmation "luv" and
> > "mirroring" because if there is none such, it won't stand on its
> > own two feet for two seconds flat.
> >
> >
> > > in regard to their failing to come up with anything imaginative
> >
> > We are not 'failing" anything dearest princessa.
> > Keep your delusional wishful projections to yourself.
> >
> > > other than their limited persona.
> >
> > You are talking about yourself, dearest. We have no "limited personas".
> > There is no such thing as UNLIMITED PERSONAS. Nor do we have any
> > personas ;) Nor are you capable of perceiving any personas.
> >
> >
> > > They are 'literally' A Yawn...
> >
> > No dearest. We are not your wishful projections.
> > No matter how much you froth at the mouth.
> > Boredom + ennui are characteristic of those disconnected
> > from reality + blind.
> >
> > > bye for now - marc
> >
> > Ciao, princessa. careful that the door does not slam
> > your ass on the way out.
> >
> > > We Can Make Our Own World.
> >
> > Scribbled the dictatorial ape before it learned to percieve,
> > exist, appreciate, and be of serrvice to the one created in absolute
> > perfection.
> >
> > Its poor bleeding "soul".
> >
> >
>
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