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Re: Re:


On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, lauf-s wrote:

> that urinal you're thinking of doing sounds like reenactive
> art.

But it's a "tradition" :)
A very "influential one".

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Re: CIA's proxy torture undermines law & humanity


On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, marc.garrett wrote:

> Just over a year ago, legal scholars and pundits posed the question, "Is
> torture justifiable in the post-Sept. 11 world?"
>
> Now the unthinkable has come to pass. According to a report published in The
> Chronicle last month ("U.S. uses tough tactics on silent terrorists," Dec.
> 26), some CIA and U.S. military personnel are tolerating and encouraging
> physical abuse and torture as part of the "war on terrorism."

How poignant. One supposes the "war on those people"
is far more justifiable in "torture". But that is called
"dealings with the likes of you". Cough.

Always a good reason to murder.
Especially if it's passive-aggressive emotionally-driven
energetic leeching.

But if one wears the right uniform one can always appear "concerned".

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Re: public service announcement from a dead junky


On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Curt Cloninger wrote:

> to speak is to assert.

No, it is NOT.

> to assert is to believe.

No, it is NOT.

> to believe is to have judged.

No, it is NOT.

In fact, you have no idea what any of the above are.
Not only that, but you're projecting your own brain-monkey
obsession as if that is how everybody else is.

> it's the plankeye conundrum.

No, it isn't. It's your own delusion.

> first remove the plank from your own eye, then you can see clearly to remove the speck of
> dust from your brother's eye (if you still care to).

Take your own pill.

> william burroughs understood this conundrum full well. he spent a
> lifetime wrestling his own demons up and down. He was an old man
> when he wrote this advice, and well over being gun-shy about calling
> a fool a fool.

Ja. And you wouldn't know anything about Burroughs to save your life,
babycheeks. Having not removed your own 'plankeye'.

> but you probably know better, vijay pattisapu. you're probably right.

Guilt-trip knee-jerk (emotional energy leeching).

Just like all of your posturing behind Burroughs.

> peace,

U-hu. Let's hear it for calling a simpleton a simpleton.
As appropriate to you.

Maybe you can monkey some 'wise men' again.

Then we be fooled that you're wise.

Oh yes, and wise men did things so simpletons can use them
to put those not yet of wisdom down.

Moreso they did it so that one can 'wear the right uniform'
of citing wise men, and peddle their own idiocy behind
the surface. They did it so you can replace THEIR intent
with your 'agenda'.

Burroughs wouldn't give you the time of the day, Curt.

Mwa.

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Re: public service announcement from a dead junky


On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Curt Cloninger wrote:

> To death:
>
> This one got through the filter because it wasn't FROM you, and i see
> you're still living the good life.

There is always an "excuse" for getting through :)

> You are like some unnatural spawn

We are "like" nothing, dearest.

> of the tar baby and jaques derrida and beavis and butthead.

You are speaking about yourself.
We are not the delusions inside your brain.

> >> > to speak is to assert.
> >>
> >> No, it is NOT.
>
> So you assert.

No, babycheeks. We do not assert.
It doesn't matter how much you froth at the mouth thatwea re "asserting"
we will not start asserting.

> >> > to assert is to believe.
> >>
> >> No, it is NOT.
>
> So you assert.

No, babycheeks. We do not assert.
It doesn't matter how much you froth at the mouth thatwea re "asserting"
we will not start asserting.

> >> > to believe is to have judged.
> >>
> >> No, it is NOT.
>
> So you assert. (we could go on like this all day, like children. i
> trust you will.)

No, babycheeks. We do not assert.
It doesn't matter how much you froth at the mouth thatwea re "asserting"
we will not start asserting.

Nor are we "like children". You're tossing out an unfavorable "image"
attempting to knee-jerk a reaction of "shame" in order to prevent
a response. In case that fails "you trust you will".

That's how dialectics works babycheeks, heads you lose, tails I win.

It's a nice dictatorial tactic. ain't it?

Thankfully in reality humans DO NOT act in any relation
to delusions inside your brain :)

> >> In fact, you have no idea what any of the above are.
> >> Not only that, but you're projecting your own brain-monkey
> >> obsession as if that is how everybody else is.
>
> so you psycho-analytically assert.

No babycheeks. We are not the wishful myopic knee-jerks inside your
brain. We do not assert. And we do not "psycho-analyze".

> >> > it's the plankeye conundrum.
> >>
> >> No, it isn't. It's your own delusion.
>
> so you assert.

No, babycheeks. We do not assert.
It doesn't matter how much you froth at the mouth thatwea re "asserting"
we will not start asserting.

> >> > first remove the plank from your own eye, then you can see
> >>clearly to remove the speck of
> >> > dust from your brother's eye (if you still care to).
> >>
> >> Take your own pill.
>
> that is the goal.

No, it isn't. You have no goals.
You're only posturing. You're not even capable_ of goals.

> >> Ja. And you wouldn't know anything about Burroughs to save your life,
> >> babycheeks. Having not removed your own 'plankeye'.
>
> so you condescendingly, psycho-analytically assert.

No, babycheeks. We do not assert.
It doesn't matter how much you froth at the mouth thatwea re "asserting"
we will not start asserting.

There is no "psycho-analysis" or "condescension" in our
words. We are not the myopic knee-jerks of your brain, we assure you :)

> >> > but you probably know better, vijay pattisapu. you're probably right.
> >>
> >> Guilt-trip knee-jerk (emotional energy leeching).
>
> agreed.

As is your dictatorial ape "you assert" routine babycheeks.

Evasive meaningless attempting-to-be-humor half-defensiveness,
half-attempt to passive-aggressively "sneak in" that you
perceive whatwe do snipped.

Try again, Curt.

When you can :)