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Re: Re: Arts Intolerance: Emily Jacir/Ulrich MuseumWichita


> But the current situation is that the people who commissioned the work
> in the first place have invited the prostesters into the lobby to keep
> warm, in other words they have sprung an ambush on the artist without so
> much as a by your leave. In doing so, they have validated the protest
> (which is of course a political protest, not an art protest). And god
> knows where that leads us, as others have pointed out.

Here's where that leads us: we who make things will have to acknowledge
the extent to which we exist on a continuum of ideas and activities with
all those slogs who work at the mini-mart and those motherfuckers who
bought their kids robotic babies for Christmas.

I for one welcome a reinvention of art as it was practiced before those
bigoted modernists got their hands on it. Before there was some
presumption that art deserved to be situated apart, away and free from
harassment. Remember artists used to be thought of in the same category as
carpenters and locksmiths. We were all just people who made shit.

I have so much faith in art. I have so much faith in creation. I know that
it flourishes even in the most repressive political regimes (to wit,
Zimbabwe, Eastern Europe...think of the art Cuba has produced). I have so
much faith in art, and so much faith in the talent of Miss Jacir that I
believe her work can survive--can thrive even--in a riotous, noisy,
unpolished marketplace of ideas. And if it doesn't, well then so be it.
History has a way of disposing of that which is useless to it.

Cinque Hicks, aka MAZE the Low Res
http://www.influxhouse.com
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DISCUSSION

Re: Arts Intolerance: Emily Jacir/Ulrich Museum Wichita


Has anyone actually READ the First Amendment lately? It says, in whole:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This means that the US Congress can't pass any law telling you what to say or what not to say. It says nothing about what Wichita State U chooses to do with regard to its own internal policies.

This decision on the university’s part is annoying, inconvenient and a little bit tacky, but it comes nowhere near being a first amendment issue.

Furthermore, did I read correctly that the University wishes to put the offending material just outside the gallery? I’ve never been there, but I’m imaging some sort of foyer or entry hall that would house the material? Does anybody know if this is the case? If it is, then I especially have no problem with this. Again, it’s sort of tacky, but I also don’t have such a sanctimonious, pious view of art as some quasi-religious object that I don’t think it should risk coming into contact with the messy real world.

If I were the artist, I would seize on this opportunity to have an actual dialog with the public for once. Imagine: an actual dialog instead of being sequestered off in some artsy-fartsy gallery preaching to people who basically already think the way you do anyway. I say go for it, let the recriminations begin! Finally! This is free speech in action, not an abridging of speech.

There is a solution to this problem short of canceling the show: let the show go forward and trust that people can actually make up their own minds about what they think, even when you don’t have a monopoly on all the speech.

joy garnett wrote:

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:17:40 -0500
> From: Barbara Hunt <bhunt@artistsspace.org>
> To: Joy Episalla <jepisalla@nyc.rr.com>, Joy Garnett
> <joyeria@walrus.com>,
> Christian Rattemeyer <crattemeyer@artistsspace.org>
> Subject: Fwd: [undercurrents] Fwd: Arts Intolerance: Emily
> Jacir/Ulrich Museum
> Wichita
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: martha rosler <navva@earthlink.net>
> Date: December 11, 2004 10:35:59 PM EST
> To: undercurrents@bbs.thing.net
> Subject: [undercurrents] Fwd: Arts Intolerance: Emily Jacir/Ulrich
> Museum Wichita
> Reply-To: undercurrents@bbs.thing.net
>
> >> From: Emna Zghal <emna@earthlink.net>
> >> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:07:37 -0500
> >> Subject: [aaw] Arts Intolerance: Emily Jacir/Ulrich Museum Wichita
> >>
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> The following messages are from my friends Kamran Rastagar
> (visiting
> >> professor at Brown University) and Emily Jacir (artist).
> >> Emily's work at the a Museum in Kansas is being attacked by some
> >> religious
> >> group and the museum in authorizing this group to invade the space
> of
> >> her
> >> installation by materials this group is choosing.
> >> I think this sets a dangerous precedent, all artists should be
> >> allowed to
> >> express themselves and have their work be received on its own
> terms.
> >> The
> >> fact that a Palestinian, and in this case a Palestinian American,
> is
> >> only
> >> allowed to express her view with some sort of a disclaimer
> shouldn't
> >> be
> >> acceptable. That this "disclaimer" or "balancing material" is not
> >> authored
> >> by the Museum and is without the agreement of the artist is
> >> outrageous.
> >>
> >> I guess the first step is to write to the museum director and
> curator.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Emna Zghal
> >> http://www.nathirat.net
> >>
> >>
> >> ------ Forwarded Message
> >>
> >> Dear Friends,
> >>
> >> The following is a call for assistance by the Palestinian-American
> >> artist Emily Jacir, whose work has been showing to critical acclaim
> >> internationally. An exhibition of her work "Where We Come From" was
> >> to go up at a museum in Wichita, Kansas affiliated with Wichita
> >> State University. The administration of the museum has now
> >> unilaterally decided to allow an outside religious group to have
> >> access to the museum in order to place a poster, and political
> >> materials 'balancing' Emily's work in the museum just outside her
> >> gallery for the duration of her show.
> >>
> >> This is a major deviation from any norms of conduct in the arts
> >> and academic community - the precedent this sets is clear and
> >> disturbing; anti-gay groups can place materials at a show by a gay
> >> artist,anti-semites at a show by a Jewish artist, etc.
> >>
> >> Please forward this widely, and write a note to the director of the
> >> museum (info below) - if anyone has connections with free-speech
> >> academic arts groups that are concerned about these kinds of
> issues,
> >> please involve them.
> >>
> >> Reviews of Emily's work:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0268/is_6_42/ai_113389509
> >> (ArtForum)
> >> http://adbusters.org/magazine/art_activism/exile.php
> >> http://www.contemporary-magazine.com/reviews59_1.htm
> >> http://www.newyorkmetro.com/arts/articles/04/whitney/3.htm
> >>
> >> - K. Rastegar
> >>
> >> -----------------------
> >> Visiting Assistant Professor
> >> Department of Comparative Literature
> >> Marston Hall, Box E
> >> Brown University
> >> Providence, RI 02912
> >> email: kamran_rastegar@brown.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Forwarded message from emily jacir -----
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I was slated to have a one person show at the Ulrich Museum in
> >> Wichita, Kansas in January 26th. The piece was Where We Come From
> >> which was included by Dan Cameron on the 8th Istanbul Biennale
> >> "Poetic Justice", and a small excerpt of it was also included in
> >> this years Whitney Bienniel.
> >>
> >> This show has been planned for over a year, much to my horror two
> >> days ago I was told that the The Jewish Federation of Kansas has
> >> put pressure on the University and the Museum so that they have
> been
> >> granted permission to place brochures and a sign in the gallery
> >> expressing their views concerning the politics of the Middle East.
> >> Actually, the University and Museum have no idea what text is
> >> contained in the brochures and what the posters are but have given
> >> them permission nonetheless.
> >>
> >> This is a complete infringement on my right to free speech, not to
> >> mention an insult to me as an artist. It is intolerable that I have
> >> to go through this just because of my background. I am sure no
> >> other artist would accept to work under such conditions. They are
> >> placing a huge unnecessary burden on my exhibit with the presence
> of
> >> the brochures which are intended to silence or censor my work. I am
> >> shocked that they would place such conditions in a the space of a
> >> museum.
> >>
> >> On the one hand they are allowing me to speak but on another they
> >> are trying to control my work by placing brochures, thereby
> >> contextualizing and framing my work in ways I have no control over.
> >> Not only is this an infringement to free speech but it also
> disturbs
> >> the integrity of my work.
> >>
> >> This also sets a bad precedent for them - the next time the
> >> University has a show that some group wants to object to they will
> >> have to put that group's sign up in the gallery.
> >>
> >> I feel violated as an artist by their decision to put a sign in the
> >> exhibition with my pictures. This modifies my installation and the
> >> work is no longer what it was intended to be.
> >>
> >> I think people should be able to see my work on its own terms and
> be
> >> able to form their own opinion. I am not against having a
> >> conversation, or organizing panels where a variety of views can be
> >> expressed if necessary.
> >>
> >> If this group is allowed to do this then perhaps other groups
> should
> >> also demand that their own signs and brochures be placed in the
> >> gallery as well. How could they be refused? The Museum has now
> >> opened up my exhibition space as space for comments from one
> >> political group so why deny others?
> >>
> >> I am very upset and people are telling me I should cancel the
> >> exhibition. I am not sure what to do....I don't want to cancel
> >> because it is not fair that the people in Wichita are unable to see
> >> my work because of this fiasco but on the other hand these terms
> are
> >> unacceptable....
> >>
> >> Please help me. Does anyone have contacts with the ACLU or ideas?
> >>
> >> The Director of the Museum is David Butler.
> >>
> >> Edwin A. Ulrich Museum of Art
> >> Wichita State University, 1845 Fairmount, Wichita, Kansas 67260
> >> contact: Dr. David Butler, Director
> >> telephone: 316-978-3664, fax: 316-978-3898
> >> e-mail: david.butler@wichita.edu
> >>
> >> Kevin Mullins is the Curator who invited me to Wichita.
> >> Kevin.Mullins@wichita.edu
> >> 316 978-5851
> >>
> >>
> >>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Arts Intolerance: Emily Jacir/Ulrich Museum Wichita


Has anyone actually READ the First Amendment lately? It says, in whole:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This means that the US Congress can't pass any law telling you what to say or what not to say. It says nothing about what Wichita State U chooses to do with regard to its own internal policies.

This decision on the university’s part is annoying, inconvenient and a little bit tacky, but it comes nowhere near being a first amendment issue.

Furthermore, did I read correctly that the University wishes to put the offending material just *outside* the gallery? I’ve never been there, but I’m imaging some sort of foyer or entry hall that would house the material? Does anybody know if this is the case? If it is, then I especially have no problem with this. Again, it’s sort of tacky, but I also don’t have such a sanctimonious, pious view of art as some quasi-religious object that I don’t think it should risk coming into contact with the messy real world.

If I were the artist, I would seize on this opportunity to have an actual dialog with the public for once. Imagine: an actual dialog instead of being sequestered off in some artsy-fartsy gallery preaching to people who basically already think the way you do anyway. I say go for it, let the recriminations begin! Finally! This is free speech in action, not an abridging of speech.

There is a solution to this problem short of canceling the show: let the show go forward and trust that people can actually make up their own minds about what they think, even when you don’t have a monopoly on all the speech.

joy garnett wrote:

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:17:40 -0500
> From: Barbara Hunt <bhunt@artistsspace.org>
> To: Joy Episalla <jepisalla@nyc.rr.com>, Joy Garnett
> <joyeria@walrus.com>,
> Christian Rattemeyer <crattemeyer@artistsspace.org>
> Subject: Fwd: [undercurrents] Fwd: Arts Intolerance: Emily
> Jacir/Ulrich Museum
> Wichita
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: martha rosler <navva@earthlink.net>
> Date: December 11, 2004 10:35:59 PM EST
> To: undercurrents@bbs.thing.net
> Subject: [undercurrents] Fwd: Arts Intolerance: Emily Jacir/Ulrich
> Museum Wichita
> Reply-To: undercurrents@bbs.thing.net
>
> >> From: Emna Zghal <emna@earthlink.net>
> >> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:07:37 -0500
> >> Subject: [aaw] Arts Intolerance: Emily Jacir/Ulrich Museum Wichita
> >>
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> The following messages are from my friends Kamran Rastagar
> (visiting
> >> professor at Brown University) and Emily Jacir (artist).
> >> Emily's work at the a Museum in Kansas is being attacked by some
> >> religious
> >> group and the museum in authorizing this group to invade the space
> of
> >> her
> >> installation by materials this group is choosing.
> >> I think this sets a dangerous precedent, all artists should be
> >> allowed to
> >> express themselves and have their work be received on its own
> terms.
> >> The
> >> fact that a Palestinian, and in this case a Palestinian American,
> is
> >> only
> >> allowed to express her view with some sort of a disclaimer
> shouldn't
> >> be
> >> acceptable. That this "disclaimer" or "balancing material" is not
> >> authored
> >> by the Museum and is without the agreement of the artist is
> >> outrageous.
> >>
> >> I guess the first step is to write to the museum director and
> curator.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Emna Zghal
> >> http://www.nathirat.net
> >>
> >>
> >> ------ Forwarded Message
> >>
> >> Dear Friends,
> >>
> >> The following is a call for assistance by the Palestinian-American
> >> artist Emily Jacir, whose work has been showing to critical acclaim
> >> internationally. An exhibition of her work "Where We Come From" was
> >> to go up at a museum in Wichita, Kansas affiliated with Wichita
> >> State University. The administration of the museum has now
> >> unilaterally decided to allow an outside religious group to have
> >> access to the museum in order to place a poster, and political
> >> materials 'balancing' Emily's work in the museum just outside her
> >> gallery for the duration of her show.
> >>
> >> This is a major deviation from any norms of conduct in the arts
> >> and academic community - the precedent this sets is clear and
> >> disturbing; anti-gay groups can place materials at a show by a gay
> >> artist,anti-semites at a show by a Jewish artist, etc.
> >>
> >> Please forward this widely, and write a note to the director of the
> >> museum (info below) - if anyone has connections with free-speech
> >> academic arts groups that are concerned about these kinds of
> issues,
> >> please involve them.
> >>
> >> Reviews of Emily's work:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0268/is_6_42/ai_113389509
> >> (ArtForum)
> >> http://adbusters.org/magazine/art_activism/exile.php
> >> http://www.contemporary-magazine.com/reviews59_1.htm
> >> http://www.newyorkmetro.com/arts/articles/04/whitney/3.htm
> >>
> >> - K. Rastegar
> >>
> >> -----------------------
> >> Visiting Assistant Professor
> >> Department of Comparative Literature
> >> Marston Hall, Box E
> >> Brown University
> >> Providence, RI 02912
> >> email: kamran_rastegar@brown.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Forwarded message from emily jacir -----
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I was slated to have a one person show at the Ulrich Museum in
> >> Wichita, Kansas in January 26th. The piece was Where We Come From
> >> which was included by Dan Cameron on the 8th Istanbul Biennale
> >> "Poetic Justice", and a small excerpt of it was also included in
> >> this years Whitney Bienniel.
> >>
> >> This show has been planned for over a year, much to my horror two
> >> days ago I was told that the The Jewish Federation of Kansas has
> >> put pressure on the University and the Museum so that they have
> been
> >> granted permission to place brochures and a sign in the gallery
> >> expressing their views concerning the politics of the Middle East.
> >> Actually, the University and Museum have no idea what text is
> >> contained in the brochures and what the posters are but have given
> >> them permission nonetheless.
> >>
> >> This is a complete infringement on my right to free speech, not to
> >> mention an insult to me as an artist. It is intolerable that I have
> >> to go through this just because of my background. I am sure no
> >> other artist would accept to work under such conditions. They are
> >> placing a huge unnecessary burden on my exhibit with the presence
> of
> >> the brochures which are intended to silence or censor my work. I am
> >> shocked that they would place such conditions in a the space of a
> >> museum.
> >>
> >> On the one hand they are allowing me to speak but on another they
> >> are trying to control my work by placing brochures, thereby
> >> contextualizing and framing my work in ways I have no control over.
> >> Not only is this an infringement to free speech but it also
> disturbs
> >> the integrity of my work.
> >>
> >> This also sets a bad precedent for them - the next time the
> >> University has a show that some group wants to object to they will
> >> have to put that group's sign up in the gallery.
> >>
> >> I feel violated as an artist by their decision to put a sign in the
> >> exhibition with my pictures. This modifies my installation and the
> >> work is no longer what it was intended to be.
> >>
> >> I think people should be able to see my work on its own terms and
> be
> >> able to form their own opinion. I am not against having a
> >> conversation, or organizing panels where a variety of views can be
> >> expressed if necessary.
> >>
> >> If this group is allowed to do this then perhaps other groups
> should
> >> also demand that their own signs and brochures be placed in the
> >> gallery as well. How could they be refused? The Museum has now
> >> opened up my exhibition space as space for comments from one
> >> political group so why deny others?
> >>
> >> I am very upset and people are telling me I should cancel the
> >> exhibition. I am not sure what to do....I don't want to cancel
> >> because it is not fair that the people in Wichita are unable to see
> >> my work because of this fiasco but on the other hand these terms
> are
> >> unacceptable....
> >>
> >> Please help me. Does anyone have contacts with the ACLU or ideas?
> >>
> >> The Director of the Museum is David Butler.
> >>
> >> Edwin A. Ulrich Museum of Art
> >> Wichita State University, 1845 Fairmount, Wichita, Kansas 67260
> >> contact: Dr. David Butler, Director
> >> telephone: 316-978-3664, fax: 316-978-3898
> >> e-mail: david.butler@wichita.edu
> >>
> >> Kevin Mullins is the Curator who invited me to Wichita.
> >> Kevin.Mullins@wichita.edu
> >> 316 978-5851
> >>
> >>
> >>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re: curating the curators


Curt Cloninger wrote:
>
> Although I can't see into anybody's soul, I disagree. It's
> definitely not about the money, because there's no great money in it
> unless your name is Hirst. Granted, it's micro-scene famewhoring;
> it's academic, upper-crust famewhoring; but a lot of still smells
> like famewhoring to me. But then one can do good work and desire
> fame too. It's just tricky.

Curt,

I used to have an acquaintance, an artist, who was extremely suspicious
of all publicity and what might be called "fame" even at the
micro-community level. he spent great amounts of time and energy
creating new works and then went out of his way not to tell anyone about
them. or it wasn't so much that as that he would write an inept little
press release and then fail to send it out on time. or he would press a
new CD and then let them sit stacked up in his car as he avoided any
sort of distribution method that might be tainted by being deemed too
common (which was pretty much everything). and the best part is that he
took *great pride* in these failings. he announced at parties that he
was the one, true artist and if you doubted that, well all you had to do
was look at how *unknown* he was, how obscure, how romantically
downtrodden, and then you'd know for sure he was a real artist.

that's an extreme case, and i know that's not the argument you are
making, but it makes a point. and it's a true story.

i don't see the conflict between good work and fame-seeking (to use a
blunt, rather ungraceful word). this is from an unashamed "famewhore" as
you would put it. good work is good work is good work and if you can get
a little attention for it (or a lot), more power to you. the choice
between good work and fame/fortune (otherwise known as "selling-out,"
mostly by people who have little idea what that is and are in no
position to do it if they did know) is a false dichotomy put to artists
that serves to keep artists meek and humble and afraid to demand the
respect that their work merits for its value to society.

i wouldn't presume to judge other artists' motives by the yardstick of
my own motives. so if a particular artist gets enough from the pure act
of expression, or some similar drive regardless of audience, regardless
of various forms of social or institutional support, that's fine. no one
is hurt by that.
my art, on the other hand, has always been about a kind of social
engagement, a matter of *communication* and as such, it has always been
important to me to be both relevant and as visible as possible. i
communicate through my art. i have something to say about the world,
about humanity, about who we are. and, yes, i want to have that
conversation not with just a select group of likeminded artists, but
with as many other people on the planet as is humanly possible.

the institutions are one way to help make that happen. they are not the
only way, nor necessarily the best, but they are one way. so the
question to me isn't whether net.art "needs" the institutions, it's that
given that they exist, how can we artists best use them to further our
artistic visions, to propogate our gifts to the world?

thanks for the stimulation,
ch

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