carlos katastrofsky
Since 2004
Works in Salzburg United States of America

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BIO
Carlos Katastrofsky is an artist, based in Austria / Europe. Working primarily in the field of new media art, his areas of exploration include netart, interactive installations, software art and the possibilities of web- elements as cultural tools.
The person behind the pseudonym Carlos Katastrofsky is Michael Kargl, born in Tyrol, Austria. He lives and works in vienna. || carlos.katastrofsky[at]cont3xt.net || http://katastrofsky.cont3xt.net
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DISCUSSION

10 questions / painting vs. coding / art


hi,
just a few notes on the comments to the "10 questions":
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@judsoN

> would it be more or less effective of a piece if you did it in a language of your choice?

this is a bit difficult to answer for me. a piece of net.art itself isn`t more or less effective in different languages, unless it deals with the additional layer of "language" itself. but language is a point in making net - related art. to me its very important to discuss some pieces because a kind of "audience" is always a part of it. either the people i discuss with on different topics or the ones who look at my stuff and react upon it. in this sense the language makes a piece more effective,because if i do something in english more people react to it. i tried many times to start discussions or presenting pieces on german (which is my native language) mailinglists. the only answers came from a troll...
and, in fact, real >discussions< on these lists are generally very rare.

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painting vs. coding

- is programming just a skill or an artistic process?
i think both is possible. i once got to know a sculptor who made exactly the sculptures he had (eidetic) in mind/ planned. so sculpting was just a tool to visualize his thoughts/ cocepts. on the other hand there are many who use sculpting as a process. i think it's the same with programming, so in my opinion the question if someone has to have programming skills or not to be a "new media" - artist isn't the point. important is just the quality of what he/ she does (and i don't think here in "good" or "bad" - terms).

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"art"

to me it's very interesting that most of the people here use the term "art" for their work. i'm far from judging if something is actually art or not, but why "art"? in my opinion the term itself focusses (strictly seen) on something that began with the renaissance and ended in the 19th century - l'art pour l'art. before this it was just an attribute of religion, afterwards it's more a kind of discourse.

regards,
carlos

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DISCUSSION

Re: 10 questions a net.artist has to be aware of


this was a kind of an emotional statement, partly to the readers, partly to myself. sometimes i'm missing questions that people on the street would ask, so i asked myself which questions this could be and which cliches are around this type of art...
so, to me it's like this:
1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 are standard questions about works from the art - field
3, 9, 10 are more related to net (or even web-) art.
(two notes:
9) i personally don't think a hacker is a criminal - far away from that. but normally for most of the people it's like hacker = cracker = bad = ...
10) deals with the "nerd" - cliche: people sitting in front of their computers with no contacts to the "real" world)
(surely these 10 questions are not enough, but it was just a momentary reaction)

and, yes: judsoN, i think you said much of what i am not able to say this way (my english, writing skills...)

thanks for reacting!

regards,
carlos

> Why should a net artist be awareof these questions?
>
> I think I am missing the point
>
> :P
>
> michael kargl wrote:
>
> > 1) what is it?
> > 2) why is it art?
> > 3) is programming art?
> > 4) why are you doing that?
> > 5) who is paying for such a s**t ?
> > 6) do you make a lot of money with your art?
> > 7) are you famous?
> > 8) what are you talking about?
> > 9) are you a hacker ? (read: are you a criminal/ terrorist?)
> > 10) have you ever had sex?
> >
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10 questions a net.artist has to be aware of


1) what is it?
2) why is it art?
3) is programming art?
4) why are you doing that?
5) who is paying for such a s**t ?
6) do you make a lot of money with your art?
7) are you famous?
8) what are you talking about?
9) are you a hacker ? (read: are you a criminal/ terrorist?)
10) have you ever had sex?

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DISCUSSION

Re: Fw: RHIZOME_RAW: ORIGINAL EMOTIONAL POST


> Are you referencing my extremely emotional post ?
> MANIK

not directly. i just mis/used your statement for advertising. this happened in a state of emotion, too.
carlos

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "carlos katastrofsky" <carlos.katastrofsky@gmx.net>
> To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>; <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: RHIZOME_RAW: ORIGINAL
>
>
> > this is ORIGINAL:
> > http://aqua.subnet.at/carlos/projekte/netart/original/
> > how can you say this is better?
> > ;-)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: manik
> > > To: list@rhizome.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:47 PM
> > > Subject: Fw: RHIZOME_RAW: ORIGINAL
> > > 

> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: manik
> > > To: list@rhizome.org
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 5:49 PM
> > > Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: ORIGINAL
> > > 

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > THIS IS BETTER THAN ORIGINAL
> > > MANIK
> > >
> >
>
>
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Re: Fw: RHIZOME_RAW: ORIGINAL


this is ORIGINAL:
http://aqua.subnet.at/carlos/projekte/netart/original/
how can you say this is better?
;-)
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: manik
> To: list@rhizome.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:47 PM
> Subject: Fw: RHIZOME_RAW: ORIGINAL
> 
 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: manik
> To: list@rhizome.org
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 5:49 PM
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: ORIGINAL
> 
 
>  
>  
>  
>                             THIS IS BETTER THAN ORIGINAL
>                                                   MANIK
>