Alexis Turner
Since 2005
Works in United States of America

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http://redheadedstepchild.org/

I am not an artist.
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DISCUSSION

Re: What is it with rebellious open-source hackers rockin the Google gear?


I think you are absolutely right, lexicontrol@gmail.com.
-Alexis

Incidentally, at least here in the states, I think the problem is that no one
recognizes a contender in the search field to step up to the plate. Google
started out doing search better than anyone else and has managed to hang on to
that fuzzy feeling even though they do not actually do it better any longer.
But with whom to replace them? Russia has Yandex, Asia gets Baidu...what do we
have? Give it another 2 years...I think the face of search will start to
change.

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, Vijay Pattisapu wrote:

::I wonder if this is similar to how some of the Western leftists of the
::50s/60s/70s supported the USSR ;-)
::
::Being not-Microsoft doesn't keep Google from being another giant corporation
::running out of innovative steam.
::
::Vijay

DISCUSSION

Re: The way of the net. And art. And business.


As I recall, we had a discussion a few months back that suggested several
solutions, not the worst of which was that the list begin to be moderated in
some way, shape, or form. Perhaps split into two which, for those who enjoy
spending their days hunting for diamonds in the rough, could be funneled into a
larger RAW, or for those who feel stifled, a wheat from chaff type service. In
the end, the "I like my status quo just the way it is, thanks" group seems to
have spoken loudest, and, I believe, most finally, in more ways that one.

There was an article in the recent Wired about splogs. Read it, if you will.
It brought up the sad, sad death of Usenet, among other things, and intimated
that the Internet itself is well on its way to the same end, unless a new method
of detecting the crap from the cream can be identified **not by users, who
already have no trouble at all doing that, but by the search companies that
index the web and thus hand users links to what they are
looking for.*** Consider that well. A user may have all the discernment in the
world, easily able to identify garbage from gems, but if they have little to no
way to FIND the gems other than by sheer brute force, time, and stubborness,
what good does the discernment do them? Absolutely none at all.

Rhizome finds itself in the same predicament - how can I build a personal spam
filter for the list when the spam is so closely targeted to what happens on the
list? I can't filter things that have the words gallery, or am/pm, or Friday in
them. Those are all words that are perfectly likely to appear in a real
discussion on this list. I can't filter out something that has a URL - sending
good links is a perfectly normal discussion event. I can't filter out
"opening" or "my latest project." I can't filter out anything spammy at all,
except perhaps standard
repeats that come every week (ie something that has the term "toegristle #" in
the subject.) (If any of you cleverer than I have developed such killer
filters, now would be a good time to jump in and save the list.) Given that
users are not able to roll their own solution, Rhizome itself has to step in
and provide a means. But if we keep living like it is 1999 and this problem
doesn't exist, well, I'm sorry but we're just screwed.

Now, I suppose my opinion doesn't matter much right now, because I've quite
firmly decided that my New Year's Resolution is to have nothing else to do with
Rhizome pretty much ever, but somehow this decision does actually make me sad,
and I can't help but try to give it one last stab for another week before I go.
It really just does seem a passing of a greater era, whether you believe I could
possibly experience this sentiment or not. To that end, yeah, I have to cry
out just a little before it's over. Why let Rhizome die with nothing but a
whimper?
-Alexis

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 dymond@idirect.ca wrote:

::Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:09:14 -0500 (EST)
::From: dymond@idirect.ca
::To: Alexis Turner <subbies@redheadedstepchild.org>
::Cc: list@rhizome.org
::Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: The way of the net. And art. And business.
::
::> I'd rather get jumped by a single ugly chick than none at all, but that
::> doesn't mean I want a dog-pile of ugliness on Alexis. After about the
::> 10th
::> girl at once, I'd smother to death.
::
::well breathing is important, it always will be.
::but your physical state is off topic, but it sounds OK, but really you've
::bent the meaning in a funny way.
::I could say that I like chocolate more than ginger, but it's not pertinent
::to the argument.., but it's still true.
::>
::> Likewise, a single retard is harmless and probably preferable to nothing.
::
::well, your an American, and your president is ... Bush???
::so I can blame you. It dooesn't matter if you voted for him or not. Guilt
::by association stands true. You must also be a Bush.
::
::> But
::> there is no flood control on the net. Eventually, it is the size of the
::> deluge of adverts and other useless nonsense that causes the meaningful
::> discourse you seek to drown, suffocated under sheer bulk. Too much of a
::> good
::> thing, perhaps.
::still, nothing here helps to create a commons for discourse. Great
::complaints and wonderous cynicism still avoids answering the problem which
::actually requires some thought.
::Get back to us when you can address the issue without malformed metaphors
::and out of context similes.
::Like any essay, an argument need form.
::Eric
::
::> -Alexis
::>
::>
::> On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Pall Thayer wrote:
::>
::> ::Well, I'll take a two-bit (shouldn't that be eight bits?) retard's
::> drivel over
::> ::nothing at all any day. At least it has the potential to generate more
::> ::meaningful discourse.
::> ::
::> ::Pall Thayer
::> ::
::> ::On 22-Dec-06, at 2:17 PM, Alexis Turner wrote:
::> ::
::> ::> Well, isn't lack of discussion the way of the net in general, not just
::> here?
::> ::> Quantity over quality - it's not about having something interesting to
::> say,
::> ::> it's about empowering any two-bit retard to say whatever pathetic
::> drivel
::> ::> they can crank out, and as long as it goes to as many people as
::> possible,
::> ::> it's successful. Spam, blogs, wikis, youtube. Congratulations. Web
::> 2.0 is
::> ::> all the same in its infinite mediocrity and incessant noise, but
::> hallelujah
::> ::> amen I think 30,000 people just heard me say that, and isn't THAT the
::> ::> importance of networking, after all? It's not what you know, it's who
::> and
::> ::> how loud.
::> ::>
::> ::> Networking and nepotism for dummies. The way of the world.
::> ::> -Alexis
::> ::>
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::> ::> +
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::> ::> Membership Agreement available online at
::> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
::> ::>
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::--
::> ::Pall Thayer
::> ::p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
::> ::http://www.this.is/pallit
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::
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DISCUSSION

Re: The way of the net. And art. And business.


I'm not going to apologize if that's what you're looking for. If anything, you
prove the point I have made previously, in which it is easy to get overwhelmed
from actually thinking about an issue by the horrible, horrible suffocation of
noise. My point is valid, but the ribbons and bows it is tied in distract.
Now we can't have a discussion about why the list is dead, and instead we have
to have an ad hominem discussion about what a terrible bitch I am. Likewise,
the endless parade of advertisements tire us out, distract us, make us quiet
when we should be talking because we simply don't have the inner resources to
pick the single useful notes out of the cacophony.
-Alexis

PS: for the record, "dehumanizing" would be saying that the only thing chicks
are good for is jumping on me. But saying that I would like a girl to jump on
me is simply "crass." There IS a difference.

But to be fair, I'll go ahead and retract "retard" in favor of "dumbass," even
though I believe that "retard" as a word has become an entity separate from its
origin. If I do that, can we please stop having such a gay discussion?

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Michael Szpakowski wrote:

::Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:39:15 -0800 (PST)
::From: Michael Szpakowski <szpako@yahoo.com>
::To: Alexis Turner <subbies@redheadedstepchild.org>
::Cc: list@rhizome.org
::Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: The way of the net. And art. And business.
::
::Is ugly & dehumanising language about women more
::acceptable if it comes from a woman? Doesn't seem so
::to me, any more than your glib use of 'retard'...Maybe
::you're so smart that it's amusing to use the
::misfortune or difficulty of others as an insult.
::I don't think I'd want that kind of clever.
::michael
::
::--- Alexis Turner <subbies@redheadedstepchild.org>
::wrote:
::
::> I'd rather get jumped by a single ugly chick than
::> none at all, but that
::> doesn't mean I want a dog-pile of ugliness on
::> Alexis. After about the 10th
::> girl at once, I'd smother to death.
::>
::> Likewise, a single retard is harmless and probably
::> preferable to nothing. But
::> there is no flood control on the net. Eventually,
::> it is the size of the
::> deluge of adverts and other useless nonsense that
::> causes the meaningful
::> discourse you seek to drown, suffocated under sheer
::> bulk. Too much of a good
::> thing, perhaps.
::> -Alexis
::>
::>
::> On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Pall Thayer wrote:
::>
::> ::Well, I'll take a two-bit (shouldn't that be eight
::> bits?) retard's drivel over
::> ::nothing at all any day. At least it has the
::> potential to generate more
::> ::meaningful discourse.
::> ::
::> ::Pall Thayer
::> ::
::> ::On 22-Dec-06, at 2:17 PM, Alexis Turner wrote:
::> ::
::> ::> Well, isn't lack of discussion the way of the
::> net in general, not just here?
::> ::> Quantity over quality - it's not about having
::> something interesting to say,
::> ::> it's about empowering any two-bit retard to say
::> whatever pathetic drivel
::> ::> they can crank out, and as long as it goes to as
::> many people as possible,
::> ::> it's successful. Spam, blogs, wikis, youtube.
::> Congratulations. Web 2.0 is
::> ::> all the same in its infinite mediocrity and
::> incessant noise, but hallelujah
::> ::> amen I think 30,000 people just heard me say
::> that, and isn't THAT the
::> ::> importance of networking, after all? It's not
::> what you know, it's who and
::> ::> how loud.
::> ::>
::> ::> Networking and nepotism for dummies. The way of
::> the world.
::> ::> -Alexis
::> ::>
::> ::> <blink><font
::>
::size="100000000">redheadedstepchild.org</font></blink>
::> ::> +
::> ::> -> post: list@rhizome.org
::> ::> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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::> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
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::> ::> +
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::> set out in the
::> ::> Membership Agreement available online at
::> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
::> ::>
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::--
::> ::Pall Thayer
::> ::p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
::> ::http://www.this.is/pallit
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::
::> ::
::> +
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::>
::
::

DISCUSSION

Re: The way of the net. And art. And business.


I'd rather get jumped by a single ugly chick than none at all, but that
doesn't mean I want a dog-pile of ugliness on Alexis. After about the 10th
girl at once, I'd smother to death.

Likewise, a single retard is harmless and probably preferable to nothing. But
there is no flood control on the net. Eventually, it is the size of the
deluge of adverts and other useless nonsense that causes the meaningful
discourse you seek to drown, suffocated under sheer bulk. Too much of a good
thing, perhaps.
-Alexis

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Pall Thayer wrote:

::Well, I'll take a two-bit (shouldn't that be eight bits?) retard's drivel over
::nothing at all any day. At least it has the potential to generate more
::meaningful discourse.
::
::Pall Thayer
::
::On 22-Dec-06, at 2:17 PM, Alexis Turner wrote:
::
::> Well, isn't lack of discussion the way of the net in general, not just here?
::> Quantity over quality - it's not about having something interesting to say,
::> it's about empowering any two-bit retard to say whatever pathetic drivel
::> they can crank out, and as long as it goes to as many people as possible,
::> it's successful. Spam, blogs, wikis, youtube. Congratulations. Web 2.0 is
::> all the same in its infinite mediocrity and incessant noise, but hallelujah
::> amen I think 30,000 people just heard me say that, and isn't THAT the
::> importance of networking, after all? It's not what you know, it's who and
::> how loud.
::>
::> Networking and nepotism for dummies. The way of the world.
::> -Alexis
::>
::> <blink><font size="100000000">redheadedstepchild.org</font></blink>
::> +
::> -> post: list@rhizome.org
::> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
::> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
::> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
::> +
::> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
::> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
::>
::
::
::
::--
::Pall Thayer
::p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
::http://www.this.is/pallit
::
::
::
::
::

DISCUSSION

The way of the net. And art. And business.


Well, isn't lack of discussion the way of the net in general, not just here?
Quantity over quality - it's not about having something interesting to say, it's
about empowering any two-bit retard to say whatever pathetic drivel they can
crank out, and as long as it goes to as many people as possible, it's
successful. Spam, blogs, wikis, youtube. Congratulations. Web 2.0 is all the
same in its infinite mediocrity and incessant noise, but hallelujah amen I think
30,000 people just heard me say that, and isn't THAT the importance of
networking, after all? It's not what you know, it's who and how loud.

Networking and nepotism for dummies. The way of the world.
-Alexis

<blink><font size="100000000">redheadedstepchild.org</font></blink>