Ry David Bradley
Since 2008
Works in Melbourne, Virgin Islands Australia

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It’s Only Humanist


The western world is classically trained. Even when it pretends to subvert this classicism, it is showing its training. It's the same in the East actually. It's really just some kind of false memory of a persons European origins, all this greek shit. As if it's the place where you once belonged. Deep false identification that feels wrong enough to be right, and an attempt to see in plain terms where we have come to in context to where we "were". Who doesn't want to jam with the greats, even if they are just props. Who doesn't wanna feel ancient in a world of displacement. Looking back so hard is actually a way of looking out into the world of infinite now - but with some kind of reference point so you don't go dizzy and fall off the edge. It should be called Greeked, Etc. Just kiddin.

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Immaterial Incoherence


Ps. But even then, it would be foolish to ignore the medium. One day we will do away with the medium, the message, and the aura. And move on, but not before being able to speak about it. I may have seen some adequate works that attempt to address this but I haven't seen it written about effectively, yet.

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Immaterial Incoherence


True we could just accept and move on, contemporary life is riddled with the internet, it's not revolutionary anymore, now it's just boring. But I still think the perception of the internet, and of computing, is false. Our understanding of the digital is also pretty juvenile. Still. To this day. It is addled by discourse from the 1990's, when the internet was effectively introduced. When it was a frontier. We don't need frontier language anymore, but at the same time, how dated does the word 'Virtual' now appear, and all of its ramifications. In a way to query the 'Immaterial' is to resurrect discourse of the 'Virtual'. Although I don't buy into the particulars, I can see why this terminology needs to be continually addressed. Even now there is no adequate relationship model. Rather than staking claims as producers on the electronic frontier, as has historically been the case, now something else has happened. So called 'Virtual' or 'Immaterial' or 'Metaphysical' space or whatever has embedded itself in our lives to the extent that we are already sick of it, and this has become the new mode. The sullied 'Wow'. Which basically means we are accepting it. So for me yeah I think, right, working out a position, a relationship to the physical world, to nature, that includes the internet and software is pretty much the most important thing right now. Not to rehash the 90's, or even the 00's, because even then the worlds were split, as if there were two distinct spheres. Now that it is clear that they are not, that everything is within the same one, we need to approach it in a different manner, without the ends of language, the frontiers of new worlds, utopias and dystopias. Rightly, the overlap can be suggested in dour performances like that of Moulton, but it also needs to be addressed in language. Haven't you noticed, all the terms never quite fit? Formulating a response, or an alternative to the material/immaterial binary is uneasy, a certain indication that it is in need of furthered evaluation. No word sticks mostly because all words are predicated upon polarity, it's this or it's that. We know it's both, but we don't know how to say it. Augmented reality and mixed reality are attempts but in their own way suffer from the great split just like their theoretical predecessors. This is why we still cannot properly speak about the internet, electronic art, and the physical world as if they are just parts of the same thing, because clearly it is more or less than that. The breakdown is in terminology, and as a carry on effect, in general understanding. Perhaps as is usually the case in these areas of crossover the only way to address these issues is through the creation of works, or the passage of time. I think a lot about children born now and their relationship to the world, I doubt it will be as marked by distinctions of 'physical' and 'non-physical', perhaps less inclined to notice the medium, and focus on the message.

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Immaterial Incoherence


I really value this discourse, and the projects by Jogging have addressed some key issues for a new generation of artists who use web publishing as their primary medium. But I am struggling to understand something fundamental about it's tenets (ie/ immateriality). Is a computer not physical, a server, even a jpeg is something that lives somewhere as a string physically written to a drive. If you take the physical world away, the virtual goes with it. If you keep the physical world, but you turn the power out, the virtual world is stored, it is written. Therefore, the virtual world is not purely virtual, or immaterial, but physical by extension, a different type of physical. Consider it offshore. But ultimately, fundamentally physical nonetheless. When online art is spoken of in terms of immateriality, I can't help but feel it is somehow ignoring this fundamental quality which anchors it to the world, to history, to it's true disposition. In this way the ideas of immateriality in art appear overly idealistic perhaps, harbingers for a failed democracy. Just like the physical world it suggests to differ from, online space is itself a gated western community that costs to access in many ways, the computer and the monthly bill are not the free democracy they are touted as being. Someone is always paying, even for 'free wifi'. Very few art galleries in the physical world cost to access, are they not free and for everybody in much the same manner of contradiction? Of course this is all problematic and needing to be further explored.

What this sense of 'immateriality' does address though is the cost of producing work as an artist, and that what has happened in an art world awash with magazines and the like full of documentation and installation shots, increasingly primary experiences, artists have become so influenced by these 'primary secondary' formats, a perceived 'establishment' in the language of gallery installation views, that they recreate their own novel versions with the use of contemporary software collage and montage effects, a kind of hi-culture photobomb. This may be in response to the economy of such a model, what cannot be afforded in the material world, can be created as an effect in the virtual world to mimic and convey, very similarly for little cost (assuming the artist has purchased a computer, software, peripherals, internet connection, camera etc). The carry on effect is a doubling trompe l'oeil. As much as it speaks of getting things done without the prohibitive expense to produce a very similar end, it also expresses a desire to assimilate, on easy terms. A desire that is very much based on photography and contemporary photographic effects. This visual double is a classic component of the fantasy space that has always marked the virtual, it's resonance is always an altered form of the physical in both senses of the term and without doubt a key feature of the present day artist. It may appear to be weightless and cost nothing and be openly accessible, but it is not. It is very reliant on an underlying architecture not only in the physical world but in the privilege of the developed world. The search for truth, the subjective lie bound within the camera in documentary photography is steeped in it's own tradition and discourse. All of which are currently being addressed in a form that is distinctly computer centric and for that reason, vital. Could it be possible that it is not immateriality that is being addressed, as this implies denial of a physical world it clearly cannot exist without, but an abstracted material phenomenon. One which has enabled among other things, increased artistic output. Critical system feedback. More material, and faster. Altered terms. Collision. Collusion. Decision. Illusion. Confusion. Fusion.

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or could somebody make one that alters ie/ samples whatever current post on rhizome home page...