Andrei Thomaz
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Works in São Paulo Brazil

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Andrei R. Thomaz is graduated in Fine Arts by UFRGS and currently courses a MFA at ECA/USP, São Paulo, Brazil, supervised by Silvia Laurentiz. He is studying the presence of labyrinths in electronic games. He has developed net art works since 2000, and the labyrinth is one of the main subjects in his works. These works can be seen at http://www.andreithomaz.com/.
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DISCUSSION

[Fwd: Re: [www-vrml] view source]


hello list,

do you know de Whitespace programming language? it's unbelievable...

[]'s
andrei
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [www-vrml] view source
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 03:17:54 -0500
From: MrPhillip <mr.phillip@cox.net>
Reply-To: MrPhillip <mr.phillip@cox.net>
To: Clayton Cottingham <drfrog@telus.net>, <www-vrml@web3d.org>
References: <LJEFKOFHLGOAAOJCCKCKMELDCEAA.drfrog@telus.net>

All the talk about obfuscation and the appearance of security...
Maybe someone could write a converter from our clear text format to the
Whitespace language...
http://compsoc.dur..ac.uk/whitespace/index.php
<http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/index.php>
then it would be really clear. It would give a whole new meaning to this
tread's subject "view source".
---
Mr. Phillip Sand Hansel II
http://philliphansel.com

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Clayton Cottingham <mailto:drfrog@telus.net>
*To:* www-vrml@web3d.org <mailto:www-vrml@web3d.org>
*Sent:* Saturday, May 10, 2003 1:45 AM
*Subject:* RE: [www-vrml] view source

it wouldnt matter.. in that case one could simply program a rule to
take that case into considreation

and by moving to an XML based language it actually becomes easier!

short of createVRMLFromUrl('/cgi-bin/foo.pl') or some dynamic build
of the world
and even in that case it is possible if you want it bad enough
through tools like lynx... even though its a text only browser you
can do something like this {psuedo code}

$>lynx --source site.com/cgi-bin/foo.pl>>mysourcedworld.wrl

i hope you realise im not arguing here.. just presenting cases!
;)

-----Original Message-----
*From:* www-vrml-approval@web3d.org
[mailto:www-vrml-approval@web3d.org]*On Behalf Of *Leonard Daly
*Sent:* May 9, 2003 9:34 PM
*To:* Clayton Cottingham; Brian Hay; 'Cindy Ballreich';
www-vrml@web3d.org
*Subject:* RE: [www-vrml] view source

I was referring to delivering the data to the world as requested
and inserting it into the world via createVrmlFromUrl. It does
not make it impossible, just more difficult.

Leonard Daly

At 03:52 PM 5/8/03 -0700, Clayton Cottingham wrote:

> ive scraped pages before for this employer or that
>
> its not that hard to remove the data from the presentation
> the info from the html
>
> especailly with regular expressions....say under perl
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leonard Daly [mailto:daly@realism.com]
> Sent: May 8, 2003 3:45 PM
> To: Clayton Cottingham; Brian Hay; 'Cindy Ballreich';
> www-vrml@web3d.org
> Subject: RE: [www-vrml] view source
>
> At 11:52 AM 5/8/03 -0700, Clayton Cottingham wrote:
>
>> from a designers POV this will change from project to
>> project
>
> Then it's your client's call. It's OK to change as long
> as the [creation and player] tools supportwhat you
> want/need to do.
>
>
>
>> not everyone is extremely worried about security
>
> Security is just one of the concerns that are necessary
> for running an organization (business, government,
> non-profit, family). The requirements for security need
> to be balanced against those for openness, innovation,
> communication, etc.
>
>>
>> course there is a lot of news about scraping web
>> pages as of late
>> and the only way to stop that is to bring on the lawyers
>
> You can limit what you put on your web page. The more
> complex the page the more difficult it is to extract the
> desired information. The security schemes you choose to
> implement need to cost less than if that information is
> available. It needs to cost your competitors more than it
> would to develop or license it from you.
>
> Leonard Daly
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: www-vrml-approval@web3d.org
>> [mailto:www-vrml-approval@web3d.org]On Behalf Of
>> Leonard Daly
>> Sent: May 8, 2003 10:35 AM
>> To: Brian Hay; 'Cindy Ballreich'; www-vrml@web3d.org
>> Subject: RE: [www-vrml] view source
>>
>> It is important to decide what you need to protect.
>> Any answer is acceptable, because it's based on your
>> business (or security) model. Just realize that the
>> more you decide you need to protect, the more
>> expensive the result.
>>
>> In dealing with the CAD vendors, I was told that
>> their models are the most important IP of their
>> customers. Of course, those same customers said they
>> wanted web (or CD) distribution of those models. It
>> turned out that the CAD models (with detailed curves,
>> dimensions, tolerances, etc.) were what needed
>> protecting. A web-size tessellation of the model was
>> sufficiently coarse that there was no problem with
>> releasing it to their business partners.
>>
>> Data can be retrieved from during the running of the
>> world (e.g. createVrmlFromUrl) that provides
>> additional security. No solution is 100% effective.
>> Getting 80% of the way there is easy. Figure out
>> your cost (or loss of business) if your competitor
>> gets your IP. Don't spend more than that protecting it.
>> Leonard Daly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <trimmed up a bit...>
>

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"First of all you can't be subversive without being subversive to yourself, that's very important. You miss something crucial if you think subversion means to have clearly defined enemies and act against them. The enemy always is always you, too and in the first place."
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DISCUSSION

Re: Artbase: Joe Zane


Alena Williams wrote:

>Hi Christopher:
>
>The scope of the ArtBase was expanded in March of 2002 to include forms of
>new media art (including software art, computer games, and documentation of
>new media performance and installation), which had previously been excluded
>from the archive.
>
>This new policy was adopted in order to allow room for work of potential
>historical significance which at one time may not have met our selection
>criteria because it was not networked--even though this work was in most
>cases as sophisticated as the networked projects in the archive.
>
>
but maybe this kind of work - not networked - can already have room in
another "museus". I think that the most singular thing in Rhizome
ArtBase it is that is the biggest and the most important selection of
net art works - and these work still have no room in another places.
These "not networked works" woud have? Maybe yes, maybe not.

That is a question; another question is that, in time of low resources,
wouldn't be best keep the focus in networked works? Or these new works
don't represent a significative cost for Rhizome?

bye, and congratulations for Rhizome ArtBase,
andrei

--
"First of all you can't be subversive without being subversive to yourself, that's very important. You miss something crucial if you think subversion means to have clearly defined enemies and act against them. The enemy always is always you, too and in the first place."
http://www.koreawebart.org/2001/0100101110101101org.html

andreithomaz@bol.com.br
fone: 92067436
url: http://www.lelic.ufrgs.br/andrei/
url: http://www.atravesdoespelho.hpg.com.br/

DISCUSSION

Special Force


hello list,

some friend of mine is researching about games and children, and she
found the Special Force game very interesting for her study. Do you have
some suggestion of links for her? Her study is in Social Psychology (she
is a lacanian psychanalist and deals with social questions, too).

bye,
andrei

--
"First of all you can't be subversive without being subversive to yourself, that's very important. You miss something crucial if you think subversion means to have clearly defined enemies and act against them. The enemy always is always you, too and in the first place."
http://www.koreawebart.org/2001/0100101110101101org.html

andreithomaz@bol.com.br
fone: 92067436
url: http://www.lelic.ufrgs.br/andrei/
url: http://www.atravesdoespelho.hpg.com.br/

DISCUSSION

special force


hello list,

yesterday i could see the site of this game, but now something else
appears... do you can see the original page
at www.specialforce.net?

bye,
andrei

--
"First of all you can't be subversive without being subversive to yourself, that's very important. You miss something crucial if you think subversion means to have clearly defined enemies and act against them. The enemy always is always you, too and in the first place."

http://www.koreawebart.org/0100101110101101org.html

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Re: Do You Have the Human V.2.0 Upgrade?


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why is that more exciting than Stelarc's work? The third arm seems a
little disappointing... I think some kind of comparison could be
interesting....

andrei

--
"First of all you can't be subversive without being subversive to yourself, that's very important. You miss something crucial if you think subversion means to have clearly defined enemies and act against them. The enemy always is always you, too and in the first place."

http://www.koreawebart.org/0100101110101101org.html


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