a question to the people using audio software.
currently i use two programs, predominantly, for creating and editing audio=
: sound forge and cakewalk (and acid occassionally).
it would be nice to use just one.
i use two because sound forge is a great editor of single sounds and cakewa=
lk isn't; and cakewalk is a great multi-track mixing device whereas sound f=
orge isn't.
any programs out there that combine the two functions into one environment?
ja
recently: www.webartery.com/audio/stardust.htm
www.vispo.com
audio software question
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Type: discussion
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Most of the higher-end programs provide multi-tracking as well as extensive=
audio editing tools; Logic Audio, Cubase, ProTools.
Pall
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—– Original Message —–
From: Jim Andrews
To: Director_Art ; List@Rhizome. Org ; Webartery@Yahoogroups. Com
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:12 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: audio software question
a question to the people using audio software.
currently i use two programs, predominantly, for creating and editing aud=
io: sound forge and cakewalk (and acid occassionally).
it would be nice to use just one.
i use two because sound forge is a great editor of single sounds and cake=
walk isn't; and cakewalk is a great multi-track mixing device whereas sound=
forge isn't.
any programs out there that combine the two functions into one environmen=
t?
ja
recently: www.webartery.com/audio/stardust.htm
www.vispo.com
Hi there,
Although cubase is a fine editor, I love editing in Soundforge. Everything =
is more straight foward & the 'EQ' aspect helps also with immediate 'gui' i=
magery so clear (it does exactly what it says on the label). The multi-trac=
k function on cubase, is exceptional. I found ProTools a bit fiddly & also =
Audio Logic was a bit of a 'cranium slump', personally. So for me, for that=
more instinctive & intuitive groove/noise , plus 3 sugars of playful fluid=
ity, cubase & soundforge get my vote. But hey! I'll try anything more than =
once…
marc
Most of the higher-end programs provide multi-tracking as well as extensi=
ve audio editing tools; Logic Audio, Cubase, ProTools.
Pall
–
Pall Thayer
kennari/myndlistamadhur
artist/teacher
Fjolbrautaskolinn vid Armula (www.fa.is)
http://www.this.is/pallit
http://www.this.is/pallit/isjs
http://www.this.is/pallit/harmony
—– Original Message —–
From: Jim Andrews
To: Director_Art ; List@Rhizome. Org ; Webartery@Yahoogroups. Com
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:12 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: audio software question
a question to the people using audio software.
currently i use two programs, predominantly, for creating and editing a=
udio: sound forge and cakewalk (and acid occassionally).
it would be nice to use just one.
i use two because sound forge is a great editor of single sounds and ca=
kewalk isn't; and cakewalk is a great multi-track mixing device whereas sou=
nd forge isn't.
any programs out there that combine the two functions into one environm=
ent?
ja
recently: www.webartery.com/audio/stardust.htm
www.vispo.com
Sound Forge and WaveLab are both stronger programs for editing mono and
stereo audio. You can use them in conjuction with Cubase, Logic, or
Cakewalk. These programs are not all things to all people.
I assume you are using PC. It is sad what passes for an audio editor on
Mac.
Many swear by Vegas for multi-track audio. That software might be
something for you to look into.
I have used Logic Audio and Sound Forge for several years. Logic is being
discontinued for Windows, and Sound Forge has been rather stagnant. For
these and a variety of other reasons, I am migrating slowly to Cubase SX
and WaveLab. I may end up using Vegas.
Logic is leaning more and more toward recording-studio multi-tracking or
post-production work. I have found it frustrating (up to v4.8.1) to use
for audio-collage – not because of the learning curve (I'm quite familiar
with it), but because almost invariably it poses some technical obstacle
to that type of creative process, i.e. malfunction. Some of those things,
related to automation especially, have been sorted out with v5. Alas,
Emagic was bought by Apple, and support on Windows will go away.
Cubase SX, though the features are not as deep as Logic's, is geared more
for a workstation type of approach. If you want to use MIDI, including
(or especially) VST instruments, look into it. If not, check out Vegas.
Cakewalk, frankly, is not that strong.
–Mark
> —– Original Message —–
> From: Jim Andrews
> To: Director_Art ; List@Rhizome. Org ; Webartery@Yahoogroups. Com
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:12 PM
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: audio software question
>
>
> a question to the people using audio software.
>
> currently i use two programs, predominantly, for creating and editing audio: sound forge and cakewalk (and acid occassionally).
>
> it would be nice to use just one.
>
> i use two because sound forge is a great editor of single sounds and cakewalk isn't; and cakewalk is a great multi-track mixing device whereas sound forge isn't.
>
> any programs out there that combine the two functions into one environment?
>
> ja
> recently: www.webartery.com/audio/stardust.htm
> www.vispo.com
Thanks, Pall and Marc,
Although cubase is a fine editor, I love editing in Soundforge. Everythin=
g is more straight foward & the 'EQ' aspect helps also with immediate 'gui'=
imagery so clear (it does exactly what it says on the label). The multi-tr=
ack function on cubase, is exceptional. I found ProTools a bit fiddly & als=
o Audio Logic was a bit of a 'cranium slump', personally. So for me, for th=
at more instinctive & intuitive groove/noise , plus 3 sugars of playful flu=
idity, cubase & soundforge get my vote. But hey! I'll try anything more tha=
n once…
Yes, I like Soundforge also. But I need to quickly be able to edit sounds=
and then test their sound when they're contiguous with multiple other soun=
ds. Or multitracked with different sounds. Like take a few songs, chop em u=
p, or parts of them, and then arrange the parts every which way horizontall=
y and vertically. This can be too time consuming to be much fun, and if it =
isn't fun, I won't be doing it much. So I need to find a tool that lets me =
work quite quickly doing these sorts of operations. Acid is a good choice, =
but I don't like how it 'Acidizes' the sounds. And the playback quality see=
ms questionable.
Anybody know if you can turn the Acidization process right off?
ja
i aggree, but,
all programs are designed for their specific purpose, and for more specific
applications the recommendation is to always use the best tool for each
particular use.
i use steinberg tools, wavelab for editing, fx, etc. and cubase for
composing and arranging. this is a quite flexible combination in which i can
work different types of sound pieces, microsound, house, idm, ambient
techno, experimental.
but as you are working more and more with sound, you will probably find
yourself using various tools. i have a ton of software, and use them / need
them all.
hope this helps!
claudio chea
>From: "Pall Thayer" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "Pall Thayer" <[email protected]>
>To: "Jim Andrews" <[email protected]>, "Director_Art"
><[email protected]>, "List@Rhizome. Org" <[email protected]>,
>"Webartery@Yahoogroups. Com" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: audio software question
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:48:24 -0800
>
>Most of the higher-end programs provide multi-tracking as well as extensive
>audio editing tools; Logic Audio, Cubase, ProTools.
>
>Pall
>
>–
>Pall Thayer
>kennari/myndlistamadhur
>artist/teacher
>Fjolbrautaskolinn vid Armula (www.fa.is)
>http://www.this.is/pallit
>http://www.this.is/pallit/isjs
>http://www.this.is/pallit/harmony
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: Jim Andrews
> To: Director_Art ; List@Rhizome. Org ; Webartery@Yahoogroups. Com
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:12 PM
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: audio software question
>
>
> a question to the people using audio software.
>
> currently i use two programs, predominantly, for creating and editing
>audio: sound forge and cakewalk (and acid occassionally).
>
> it would be nice to use just one.
>
> i use two because sound forge is a great editor of single sounds and
>cakewalk isn't; and cakewalk is a great multi-track mixing device whereas
>sound forge isn't.
>
> any programs out there that combine the two functions into one
>environment?
>
> ja
> recently: www.webartery.com/audio/stardust.htm
> www.vispo.com
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